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by b4＠gewt.net

Well, that's definitely a problem! ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Gregg Levine" <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> | To: hecnet at update.uu.se | Sent: Friday, 1 March, 2013 8:10:35 PM | Subject: Re: [HECnet] Personal DECstation 5000/25 | | On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: | > | > On 1 Mar 2013, at 20:06, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> | > wrote: | > | >> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 8:04 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: | >>> | >>> On 1 Mar 2013, at 19:57, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> | >>> wrote: | >>> | >>>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> | >>>> wrote: | >>>>> | >>>>> On 1 Mar 2013, at 19:42, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> | >>>>> wrote: | >>>>> | >>>>>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> | >>>>>> wrote: | >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> On 1 Mar 2013, at 19:38, Gregg Levine | >>>>>>> <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote: | >>>>>>> | >>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> | >>>>>>>> wrote: | >>>>>>>>> My Netra that functions as my router has a dead battery and | >>>>>>>>> she still runs fine. More stable than when my router was | >>>>>>>>> in a VM, too... | >>>>>>>>> | >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- | >>>>>>>>> | From: "Ian McLaughlin" <ian at platinum.net> | >>>>>>>>> | To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE | >>>>>>>>> | Sent: Friday, 1 March, 2013 4:58:53 PM | >>>>>>>>> | Subject: Re: [HECnet] Personal DECstation 5000/25 | >>>>>>>>> | | >>>>>>>>> | | >>>>>>>>> | On 2013-03-01, at 1:57 PM, Mark Wickens | >>>>>>>>> | | >>>>>>>>> | wrote: | >>>>>>>>> | | >>>>>>>>> | > On 01/03/2013 17:02, Ian McLaughlin wrote: | >>>>>>>>> | >> Mark, | >>>>>>>>> | >> I've grabbed the image from you - thanks! I look | >>>>>>>>> | >> forward to | >>>>>>>>> | >> seeing the patches also, once you've got slave online. | >>>>>>>>> | >> | >>>>>>>>> | >> As with most hardware this age, the clock battery has | >>>>>>>>> | >> died. | >>>>>>>>> | >> Unfortunately, this module is soldered to the | >>>>>>>>> | >> motherboard. The | >>>>>>>>> | >> original module is a DS1287. I have a DS12887 spare, | >>>>>>>>> | >> but I can't | >>>>>>>>> | >> tell if it's compatible without soldering it in. In | >>>>>>>>> | >> most cases | >>>>>>>>> | >> the DS12887 is a suitable replacement, but I can't | >>>>>>>>> | >> find any | >>>>>>>>> | >> discussion of anyone trying in a DECstation. Any | >>>>>>>>> | >> chance anyone | >>>>>>>>> | >> here has tried? | >>>>>>>>> | >> | >>>>>>>>> | >> I would normally install a socket, but this module | >>>>>>>>> | >> lives just | >>>>>>>>> | >> underneath the CPU board, and there's not enough | >>>>>>>>> | >> clearance to add | >>>>>>>>> | >> a socket. Whatever replacement goes in will have to | >>>>>>>>> | >> be soldered. | >>>>>>>>> | > They never make life easy do they? | >>>>>>>>> | > | >>>>>>>>> | > I'm guessing my 5000/240 probably needs a new battery | >>>>>>>>> | > by now! | >>>>>>>>> | | >>>>>>>>> | At least this machine lets me still play. I can change | >>>>>>>>> | settings, | >>>>>>>>> | boot the machine, etc. It just forgets them when I power | >>>>>>>>> | off. Some | >>>>>>>>> | machines will just totally lock up and refuse to operate | >>>>>>>>> | when the | >>>>>>>>> | battery is dead. | >>>>>>>>> | | >>>>>>>>> | Ian | >>>>>>>>> | | >>>>>>>>> | | >>>>>>>>> | >>>>>>>>> -- | >>>>>>>>> Cory Smelosky | >>>>>>>>> http://gewt.net Personal stuff | >>>>>>>>> http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments | >>>>>>>>> http://dev.gimme-sympathy.org Home experiments | >>>>>>>>> | >>>>>>>> | >>>>>>>> Hello! | >>>>>>>> This does not explain why your Netra just ordered six feet | >>>>>>>> and plenty | >>>>>>>> of things to work with, because it wants to leave... .. | >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> Unfortunately not. ;) | >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> It also does not explain why despotify is giving me a Bus | >>>>>>> error. | >>>>>>> | >>>>>>>> | >>>>>>>> Dave stop staring at that car. The occupants want to finish | >>>>>>>> their | >>>>>>>> business and leave the area...... | >>>>>>>> ----- | >>>>>>>> Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com | >>>>>>>> "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." | >>>>>>> | >>>>>> | >>>>>> Hello! | >>>>>> Hmmm. I arranged that. Yes it wants to leave. It wants to work | >>>>>> in a | >>>>>> normal climate. | >>>>> | >>>>> I understand. Rivers catch fire here. | >>>>> | >>>>>> | >>>>>> Dave stop staring at that car. The occupants want to finish | >>>>>> their | >>>>>> business and leave the area...... | >>>>>> | >>>>>> ----- | >>>>>> Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com | >>>>>> "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." | >>>>> | >>>> | >>>> Hello! | >>>> Oh that problem..... I arranged that too. | >>> | >>> I didn't know you were over one hundred years old. ;) | >>> | >>>> | >>>> Dave now you did it, you have a very tall individual who's over | >>>> dressed for the area and an average height young woman who's | >>>> dressed | >>>> improperly for the the time, staring back at you. | >>>> ----- | >>>> Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com | >>>> "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." | >>> | >> | >> Hello! | >> I see you've not been reading the witty notes that I've been | >> including | >> regarding Dave's many problems. Or the reference to the Yetis. | > | > Hey, they were aimed at Dave, not me. ;) | > | >> | >> They were one of the problems of Doctor Who. And, ah, that's me. | >> | >> -- | >> ----- | >> Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com | >> "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." | > | | Hello! | Of course. But now you do have problems. There's a crowd of Cybermen | going through your garbage and the mail you did not bring in today. | | -- | ----- | Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com | "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." | -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments http://dev.gimme-sympathy.org Home experiments

12 years, 4 months

Personal DECstation 5000/25

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 1 Mar 2013, at 20:06, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote: On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 8:04 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 1 Mar 2013, at 19:57, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote: On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 1 Mar 2013, at 19:42, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote: On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 1 Mar 2013, at 19:38, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote: On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: My Netra that functions as my router has a dead battery and she still runs fine. More stable than when my router was in a VM, too... ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Ian McLaughlin" <ian at platinum.net> | To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE | Sent: Friday, 1 March, 2013 4:58:53 PM | Subject: Re: [HECnet] Personal DECstation 5000/25 | | | On 2013-03-01, at 1:57 PM, Mark Wickens | wrote: | | > On 01/03/2013 17:02, Ian McLaughlin wrote: | >> Mark, | >> I've grabbed the image from you - thanks! I look forward to | >> seeing the patches also, once you've got slave online. | >> | >> As with most hardware this age, the clock battery has died. | >> Unfortunately, this module is soldered to the motherboard. The | >> original module is a DS1287. I have a DS12887 spare, but I can't | >> tell if it's compatible without soldering it in. In most cases | >> the DS12887 is a suitable replacement, but I can't find any | >> discussion of anyone trying in a DECstation. Any chance anyone | >> here has tried? | >> | >> I would normally install a socket, but this module lives just | >> underneath the CPU board, and there's not enough clearance to add | >> a socket. Whatever replacement goes in will have to be soldered. | > They never make life easy do they? | > | > I'm guessing my 5000/240 probably needs a new battery by now! | | At least this machine lets me still play. I can change settings, | boot the machine, etc. It just forgets them when I power off. Some | machines will just totally lock up and refuse to operate when the | battery is dead. | | Ian | | -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments http://dev.gimme-sympathy.org Home experiments Hello! This does not explain why your Netra just ordered six feet and plenty of things to work with, because it wants to leave... .. Unfortunately not. ;) It also does not explain why despotify is giving me a Bus error. Dave stop staring at that car. The occupants want to finish their business and leave the area...... ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." Hello! Hmmm. I arranged that. Yes it wants to leave. It wants to work in a normal climate. I understand. Rivers catch fire here. Dave stop staring at that car. The occupants want to finish their business and leave the area...... ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." Hello! Oh that problem..... I arranged that too. I didn't know you were over one hundred years old. ;) Dave now you did it, you have a very tall individual who's over dressed for the area and an average height young woman who's dressed improperly for the the time, staring back at you. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." Hello! I see you've not been reading the witty notes that I've been including regarding Dave's many problems. Or the reference to the Yetis. Hey, they were aimed at Dave, not me. ;) They were one of the problems of Doctor Who. And, ah, that's me. -- ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." Hello! Of course. But now you do have problems. There's a crowd of Cybermen going through your garbage and the mail you did not bring in today. -- ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

12 years, 4 months

Personal DECstation 5000/25

by b4＠gewt.net

On 1 Mar 2013, at 20:06, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote: On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 8:04 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 1 Mar 2013, at 19:57, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote: On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 1 Mar 2013, at 19:42, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote: On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 1 Mar 2013, at 19:38, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote: On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: My Netra that functions as my router has a dead battery and she still runs fine. More stable than when my router was in a VM, too... ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Ian McLaughlin" <ian at platinum.net> | To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE | Sent: Friday, 1 March, 2013 4:58:53 PM | Subject: Re: [HECnet] Personal DECstation 5000/25 | | | On 2013-03-01, at 1:57 PM, Mark Wickens | wrote: | | > On 01/03/2013 17:02, Ian McLaughlin wrote: | >> Mark, | >> I've grabbed the image from you - thanks! I look forward to | >> seeing the patches also, once you've got slave online. | >> | >> As with most hardware this age, the clock battery has died. | >> Unfortunately, this module is soldered to the motherboard. The | >> original module is a DS1287. I have a DS12887 spare, but I can't | >> tell if it's compatible without soldering it in. In most cases | >> the DS12887 is a suitable replacement, but I can't find any | >> discussion of anyone trying in a DECstation. Any chance anyone | >> here has tried? | >> | >> I would normally install a socket, but this module lives just | >> underneath the CPU board, and there's not enough clearance to add | >> a socket. Whatever replacement goes in will have to be soldered. | > They never make life easy do they? | > | > I'm guessing my 5000/240 probably needs a new battery by now! | | At least this machine lets me still play. I can change settings, | boot the machine, etc. It just forgets them when I power off. Some | machines will just totally lock up and refuse to operate when the | battery is dead. | | Ian | | -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments http://dev.gimme-sympathy.org Home experiments Hello! This does not explain why your Netra just ordered six feet and plenty of things to work with, because it wants to leave... .. Unfortunately not. ;) It also does not explain why despotify is giving me a Bus error. Dave stop staring at that car. The occupants want to finish their business and leave the area...... ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." Hello! Hmmm. I arranged that. Yes it wants to leave. It wants to work in a normal climate. I understand. Rivers catch fire here. Dave stop staring at that car. The occupants want to finish their business and leave the area...... ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." Hello! Oh that problem..... I arranged that too. I didn't know you were over one hundred years old. ;) Dave now you did it, you have a very tall individual who's over dressed for the area and an average height young woman who's dressed improperly for the the time, staring back at you. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." Hello! I see you've not been reading the witty notes that I've been including regarding Dave's many problems. Or the reference to the Yetis. Hey, they were aimed at Dave, not me. ;) They were one of the problems of Doctor Who. And, ah, that's me. -- ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

12 years, 4 months

Personal DECstation 5000/25

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 8:04 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 1 Mar 2013, at 19:57, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote: On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 1 Mar 2013, at 19:42, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote: On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 1 Mar 2013, at 19:38, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote: On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: My Netra that functions as my router has a dead battery and she still runs fine. More stable than when my router was in a VM, too... ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Ian McLaughlin" <ian at platinum.net> | To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE | Sent: Friday, 1 March, 2013 4:58:53 PM | Subject: Re: [HECnet] Personal DECstation 5000/25 | | | On 2013-03-01, at 1:57 PM, Mark Wickens | wrote: | | > On 01/03/2013 17:02, Ian McLaughlin wrote: | >> Mark, | >> I've grabbed the image from you - thanks! I look forward to | >> seeing the patches also, once you've got slave online. | >> | >> As with most hardware this age, the clock battery has died. | >> Unfortunately, this module is soldered to the motherboard. The | >> original module is a DS1287. I have a DS12887 spare, but I can't | >> tell if it's compatible without soldering it in. In most cases | >> the DS12887 is a suitable replacement, but I can't find any | >> discussion of anyone trying in a DECstation. Any chance anyone | >> here has tried? | >> | >> I would normally install a socket, but this module lives just | >> underneath the CPU board, and there's not enough clearance to add | >> a socket. Whatever replacement goes in will have to be soldered. | > They never make life easy do they? | > | > I'm guessing my 5000/240 probably needs a new battery by now! | | At least this machine lets me still play. I can change settings, | boot the machine, etc. It just forgets them when I power off. Some | machines will just totally lock up and refuse to operate when the | battery is dead. | | Ian | | -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments http://dev.gimme-sympathy.org Home experiments Hello! This does not explain why your Netra just ordered six feet and plenty of things to work with, because it wants to leave... .. Unfortunately not. ;) It also does not explain why despotify is giving me a Bus error. Dave stop staring at that car. The occupants want to finish their business and leave the area...... ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." Hello! Hmmm. I arranged that. Yes it wants to leave. It wants to work in a normal climate. I understand. Rivers catch fire here. Dave stop staring at that car. The occupants want to finish their business and leave the area...... ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." Hello! Oh that problem..... I arranged that too. I didn't know you were over one hundred years old. ;) Dave now you did it, you have a very tall individual who's over dressed for the area and an average height young woman who's dressed improperly for the the time, staring back at you. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." Hello! I see you've not been reading the witty notes that I've been including regarding Dave's many problems. Or the reference to the Yetis. They were one of the problems of Doctor Who. And, ah, that's me. -- ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

12 years, 4 months

Personal DECstation 5000/25

by b4＠gewt.net

On 1 Mar 2013, at 19:57, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote: On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 1 Mar 2013, at 19:42, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote: On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 1 Mar 2013, at 19:38, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote: On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: My Netra that functions as my router has a dead battery and she still runs fine. More stable than when my router was in a VM, too... ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Ian McLaughlin" <ian at platinum.net> | To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE | Sent: Friday, 1 March, 2013 4:58:53 PM | Subject: Re: [HECnet] Personal DECstation 5000/25 | | | On 2013-03-01, at 1:57 PM, Mark Wickens | wrote: | | > On 01/03/2013 17:02, Ian McLaughlin wrote: | >> Mark, | >> I've grabbed the image from you - thanks! I look forward to | >> seeing the patches also, once you've got slave online. | >> | >> As with most hardware this age, the clock battery has died. | >> Unfortunately, this module is soldered to the motherboard. The | >> original module is a DS1287. I have a DS12887 spare, but I can't | >> tell if it's compatible without soldering it in. In most cases | >> the DS12887 is a suitable replacement, but I can't find any | >> discussion of anyone trying in a DECstation. Any chance anyone | >> here has tried? | >> | >> I would normally install a socket, but this module lives just | >> underneath the CPU board, and there's not enough clearance to add | >> a socket. Whatever replacement goes in will have to be soldered. | > They never make life easy do they? | > | > I'm guessing my 5000/240 probably needs a new battery by now! | | At least this machine lets me still play. I can change settings, | boot the machine, etc. It just forgets them when I power off. Some | machines will just totally lock up and refuse to operate when the | battery is dead. | | Ian | | -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments http://dev.gimme-sympathy.org Home experiments Hello! This does not explain why your Netra just ordered six feet and plenty of things to work with, because it wants to leave... .. Unfortunately not. ;) It also does not explain why despotify is giving me a Bus error. Dave stop staring at that car. The occupants want to finish their business and leave the area...... ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." Hello! Hmmm. I arranged that. Yes it wants to leave. It wants to work in a normal climate. I understand. Rivers catch fire here. Dave stop staring at that car. The occupants want to finish their business and leave the area...... ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." Hello! Oh that problem..... I arranged that too. I didn't know you were over one hundred years old. ;) Dave now you did it, you have a very tall individual who's over dressed for the area and an average height young woman who's dressed improperly for the the time, staring back at you. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

12 years, 4 months

Personal DECstation 5000/25

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 1 Mar 2013, at 19:42, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote: On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 1 Mar 2013, at 19:38, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote: On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: My Netra that functions as my router has a dead battery and she still runs fine. More stable than when my router was in a VM, too... ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Ian McLaughlin" <ian at platinum.net> | To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE | Sent: Friday, 1 March, 2013 4:58:53 PM | Subject: Re: [HECnet] Personal DECstation 5000/25 | | | On 2013-03-01, at 1:57 PM, Mark Wickens | wrote: | | > On 01/03/2013 17:02, Ian McLaughlin wrote: | >> Mark, | >> I've grabbed the image from you - thanks! I look forward to | >> seeing the patches also, once you've got slave online. | >> | >> As with most hardware this age, the clock battery has died. | >> Unfortunately, this module is soldered to the motherboard. The | >> original module is a DS1287. I have a DS12887 spare, but I can't | >> tell if it's compatible without soldering it in. In most cases | >> the DS12887 is a suitable replacement, but I can't find any | >> discussion of anyone trying in a DECstation. Any chance anyone | >> here has tried? | >> | >> I would normally install a socket, but this module lives just | >> underneath the CPU board, and there's not enough clearance to add | >> a socket. Whatever replacement goes in will have to be soldered. | > They never make life easy do they? | > | > I'm guessing my 5000/240 probably needs a new battery by now! | | At least this machine lets me still play. I can change settings, | boot the machine, etc. It just forgets them when I power off. Some | machines will just totally lock up and refuse to operate when the | battery is dead. | | Ian | | -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments http://dev.gimme-sympathy.org Home experiments Hello! This does not explain why your Netra just ordered six feet and plenty of things to work with, because it wants to leave... .. Unfortunately not. ;) It also does not explain why despotify is giving me a Bus error. Dave stop staring at that car. The occupants want to finish their business and leave the area...... ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." Hello! Hmmm. I arranged that. Yes it wants to leave. It wants to work in a normal climate. I understand. Rivers catch fire here. Dave stop staring at that car. The occupants want to finish their business and leave the area...... ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." Hello! Oh that problem..... I arranged that too. Dave now you did it, you have a very tall individual who's over dressed for the area and an average height young woman who's dressed improperly for the the time, staring back at you. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

12 years, 4 months

Personal DECstation 5000/25

by b4＠gewt.net

On 1 Mar 2013, at 19:42, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote: On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 1 Mar 2013, at 19:38, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote: On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: My Netra that functions as my router has a dead battery and she still runs fine. More stable than when my router was in a VM, too... ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Ian McLaughlin" <ian at platinum.net> | To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE | Sent: Friday, 1 March, 2013 4:58:53 PM | Subject: Re: [HECnet] Personal DECstation 5000/25 | | | On 2013-03-01, at 1:57 PM, Mark Wickens | wrote: | | > On 01/03/2013 17:02, Ian McLaughlin wrote: | >> Mark, | >> I've grabbed the image from you - thanks! I look forward to | >> seeing the patches also, once you've got slave online. | >> | >> As with most hardware this age, the clock battery has died. | >> Unfortunately, this module is soldered to the motherboard. The | >> original module is a DS1287. I have a DS12887 spare, but I can't | >> tell if it's compatible without soldering it in. In most cases | >> the DS12887 is a suitable replacement, but I can't find any | >> discussion of anyone trying in a DECstation. Any chance anyone | >> here has tried? | >> | >> I would normally install a socket, but this module lives just | >> underneath the CPU board, and there's not enough clearance to add | >> a socket. Whatever replacement goes in will have to be soldered. | > They never make life easy do they? | > | > I'm guessing my 5000/240 probably needs a new battery by now! | | At least this machine lets me still play. I can change settings, | boot the machine, etc. It just forgets them when I power off. Some | machines will just totally lock up and refuse to operate when the | battery is dead. | | Ian | | -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments http://dev.gimme-sympathy.org Home experiments Hello! This does not explain why your Netra just ordered six feet and plenty of things to work with, because it wants to leave... .. Unfortunately not. ;) It also does not explain why despotify is giving me a Bus error. Dave stop staring at that car. The occupants want to finish their business and leave the area...... ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." Hello! Hmmm. I arranged that. Yes it wants to leave. It wants to work in a normal climate. I understand. Rivers catch fire here. Dave stop staring at that car. The occupants want to finish their business and leave the area...... ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

12 years, 4 months

Personal DECstation 5000/25

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 1 Mar 2013, at 19:38, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote: On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: My Netra that functions as my router has a dead battery and she still runs fine. More stable than when my router was in a VM, too... ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Ian McLaughlin" <ian at platinum.net> | To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE | Sent: Friday, 1 March, 2013 4:58:53 PM | Subject: Re: [HECnet] Personal DECstation 5000/25 | | | On 2013-03-01, at 1:57 PM, Mark Wickens | wrote: | | > On 01/03/2013 17:02, Ian McLaughlin wrote: | >> Mark, | >> I've grabbed the image from you - thanks! I look forward to | >> seeing the patches also, once you've got slave online. | >> | >> As with most hardware this age, the clock battery has died. | >> Unfortunately, this module is soldered to the motherboard. The | >> original module is a DS1287. I have a DS12887 spare, but I can't | >> tell if it's compatible without soldering it in. In most cases | >> the DS12887 is a suitable replacement, but I can't find any | >> discussion of anyone trying in a DECstation. Any chance anyone | >> here has tried? | >> | >> I would normally install a socket, but this module lives just | >> underneath the CPU board, and there's not enough clearance to add | >> a socket. Whatever replacement goes in will have to be soldered. | > They never make life easy do they? | > | > I'm guessing my 5000/240 probably needs a new battery by now! | | At least this machine lets me still play. I can change settings, | boot the machine, etc. It just forgets them when I power off. Some | machines will just totally lock up and refuse to operate when the | battery is dead. | | Ian | | -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments http://dev.gimme-sympathy.org Home experiments Hello! This does not explain why your Netra just ordered six feet and plenty of things to work with, because it wants to leave... .. Unfortunately not. ;) It also does not explain why despotify is giving me a Bus error. Dave stop staring at that car. The occupants want to finish their business and leave the area...... ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." Hello! Hmmm. I arranged that. Yes it wants to leave. It wants to work in a normal climate. Dave stop staring at that car. The occupants want to finish their business and leave the area...... ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

12 years, 4 months

Personal DECstation 5000/25

by b4＠gewt.net

On 1 Mar 2013, at 19:38, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote: On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: My Netra that functions as my router has a dead battery and she still runs fine. More stable than when my router was in a VM, too... ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Ian McLaughlin" <ian at platinum.net> | To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE | Sent: Friday, 1 March, 2013 4:58:53 PM | Subject: Re: [HECnet] Personal DECstation 5000/25 | | | On 2013-03-01, at 1:57 PM, Mark Wickens | wrote: | | > On 01/03/2013 17:02, Ian McLaughlin wrote: | >> Mark, | >> I've grabbed the image from you - thanks! I look forward to | >> seeing the patches also, once you've got slave online. | >> | >> As with most hardware this age, the clock battery has died. | >> Unfortunately, this module is soldered to the motherboard. The | >> original module is a DS1287. I have a DS12887 spare, but I can't | >> tell if it's compatible without soldering it in. In most cases | >> the DS12887 is a suitable replacement, but I can't find any | >> discussion of anyone trying in a DECstation. Any chance anyone | >> here has tried? | >> | >> I would normally install a socket, but this module lives just | >> underneath the CPU board, and there's not enough clearance to add | >> a socket. Whatever replacement goes in will have to be soldered. | > They never make life easy do they? | > | > I'm guessing my 5000/240 probably needs a new battery by now! | | At least this machine lets me still play. I can change settings, | boot the machine, etc. It just forgets them when I power off. Some | machines will just totally lock up and refuse to operate when the | battery is dead. | | Ian | | -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments http://dev.gimme-sympathy.org Home experiments Hello! This does not explain why your Netra just ordered six feet and plenty of things to work with, because it wants to leave... .. Unfortunately not. ;) It also does not explain why despotify is giving me a Bus error. Dave stop staring at that car. The occupants want to finish their business and leave the area...... ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

12 years, 4 months

Personal DECstation 5000/25

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: My Netra that functions as my router has a dead battery and she still runs fine. More stable than when my router was in a VM, too... ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Ian McLaughlin" <ian at platinum.net> | To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE | Sent: Friday, 1 March, 2013 4:58:53 PM | Subject: Re: [HECnet] Personal DECstation 5000/25 | | | On 2013-03-01, at 1:57 PM, Mark Wickens | wrote: | | > On 01/03/2013 17:02, Ian McLaughlin wrote: | >> Mark, | >> I've grabbed the image from you - thanks! I look forward to | >> seeing the patches also, once you've got slave online. | >> | >> As with most hardware this age, the clock battery has died. | >> Unfortunately, this module is soldered to the motherboard. The | >> original module is a DS1287. I have a DS12887 spare, but I can't | >> tell if it's compatible without soldering it in. In most cases | >> the DS12887 is a suitable replacement, but I can't find any | >> discussion of anyone trying in a DECstation. Any chance anyone | >> here has tried? | >> | >> I would normally install a socket, but this module lives just | >> underneath the CPU board, and there's not enough clearance to add | >> a socket. Whatever replacement goes in will have to be soldered. | > They never make life easy do they? | > | > I'm guessing my 5000/240 probably needs a new battery by now! | | At least this machine lets me still play. I can change settings, | boot the machine, etc. It just forgets them when I power off. Some | machines will just totally lock up and refuse to operate when the | battery is dead. | | Ian | | -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments http://dev.gimme-sympathy.org Home experiments Hello! This does not explain why your Netra just ordered six feet and plenty of things to work with, because it wants to leave........ Dave stop staring at that car. The occupants want to finish their business and leave the area...... ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

12 years, 4 months

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