Hello everyone, :)
while doing some housekeeping in one of my VMS systems I just came
across the PSTHRU.EXE DECnet tool for VAX which I downloaded from some place
I could not remember anymore, maybe some freeware collection.
PSTHRU.EXE implements DECnet PMR (Poor's Man Routing), i.e. the ability to
specify a route directly in the connection string, that was especially
useful when dealing with hidden areas because it relieved both users and
system managers from the need to have accounts on any intermediate
system(s). In simpler words it allows for things like the following:
$ SET HOST GATEWY::OTHRGW::HIDDEN::
With the exception of FAL and MAIL, whenever DECnet finds that a connection
string to some remote network object contains a list of nodes rather than
just one, it redirects that connection request to object 123 on the leftmost
node of the list. There, PSTHRU forwards the connection to the next node on
the list (either to object 123 or to the actual intended object, depending
on how many nodes are left to be passed through), and so on until the source
could be connected to its intended target. For different reasons both FAL
and MAIL have their own way of doing PMR and thus do not require PSTHRU or
anything similar for it to work.
Now the question is: does anyone have the source of PSTHRU.EXE (does it
exist at all?) and/or does anyone have an Alpha version of that image?
Also, by looking at a dump of PSTHRU.EXE it appears that it contains some
reference to some PSTHRU.DAT, so another question is: does anyone know how
to use it? I suspect that it could be a file where complex paths could be
listed so that one wouldn't have to remember all of them...
Thanks!
G.
Anyone using DECnet Phase-V on VAX/VMS V7.3 in the HECnet community?
I am rebuilding SGC::. It is MUCH bigger and faster so I may go the Phase-V route if it has any real value. Comments?
Thanks!
-Steve
Hello,
Been a few years with an Email address change and a personal change, I'm
now retired.
Still have a boat load of MicroVAXen both Qbus and 3100 series, Qbus-11s
and PDP-8f.
Other than that more than a few CP/M boxes.
Maybe I can get the bridge going as FIOS, I did that years ago has a
stable address.
Allison/former mill rat and owner of VIdsys: a former mill/DSG/OGO
uVAXII/GPX system.
Hi,
I've been seeing references to VAX Lisp installation savesets available on CONDIST media (March 1993) through google search but the links go nowhere and the messages are around 7 years old anyway. So...
Does anybody have the media I could 'borrow' and the product key, pretty please? There are references to its status being 'retired' like Bliss32. I didn't get a response from HP's hobbyist administrator regarding it being available through them.
Hoping someone can help.
They have the version I want running at the Living Computers Museum on Rosie which recently moved over from a 780-5 to a 6000-640 but it appears still to be sysgen'd for 24Mb main memory (I'm sure the 6000 has more than that) and my pagefilequota isn't big enough to do the Lisp'ing I want to do and my working set limits would result in a horrendous amount of paging. Hence the need to do it locally.
Regards,
Keith
Thank you Oleg. Exciting to see it appears IMPVAX and CTAKAH are now
connected over MULTINET.
$ MC NCP SHOW CIRCUIT TCP-0-99 CHAR
Circuit Volatile Characteristics as of 24-FEB-2019 04:39:10
Circuit = TCP-0-99
State = on
Service = enabled
Cost = 1
Hello timer = 15
Verification = disabled
Adjacent node = 62.637 (CTAKAH)
Listen timer = 30
$ MC NCP TELL CTAKAH SHOW ACTIVE CIRCUITS
Active Circuit Volatile Summary as of 24-FEB-2019 04:39:23
Circuit State Loopback Adjacent
Name Routing Node
UNA-0 on 62.5 (BOPOHA)
UNA-0 62.17 (CCCP)
DL-0 on 62.11 (KYPEBO)
IP-0-0 on 1.13 (MIM)
IP-0-1 on -starting
IP-0-2 on -starting
IP-0-3 on 1.559 (IMPVAX)
$
Best wishes,
Supratim
On 2/23/19 10:51 PM, Oleg Safiullin wrote:
> I'm not sure if I can send to hecnet@ from @pdp-11.online, so this is a
> copy of message :)
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> On 24-Feb-2019 2:59, Supratim Sanyal wrote:
>> Hi Oleg,
>
> Hi!
>
>> If possible, I would like to set up a MULTINET link to CTAKAH. On this
>> side, it will be IMPVAX (52.23.221.223, 1.559).
>
> No problems :)
> Just connect via TCP to pdp-11.online:700
>
> WBR
> //form
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Hi Oleg,
If possible, I would like to set up a MULTINET link to CTAKAH. On this
side, it will be IMPVAX (52.23.221.223, 1.559).
By the way, Novosibirsk looked very beautiful in the night when our
Moscow-Chita train pulled up around 4 AM.
Thank you,
Supratim
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There are some services available on Phase V which aren't on Phase IV like DECnet-over-IP, DTSS and a few others. If you like to use those, then Phase V is your choice.Personally I use Phase V on most Alphas and on bigger VAXen. Others run Phase IV.KariSent from Samsung tablet.
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From: Steve Davidson <steve at davidson.net>
Date: 2/18/19 18:42 (GMT+02:00)
To: HECnet Distribution List <hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
Subject: [HECnet] DECnet Phase-V usage within HECnet
Anyone using DECnet Phase-V on VAX/VMS V7.3 in the HECnet community?I am rebuilding SGC::.? It is MUCH bigger and faster so I may go the Phase-V route if it has any real value.? Comments?Thanks!-Steve
Hi everyone,
I've some across a bit of a problem and was hoping that someone else here
has either experienced it or is able to have a clue as to what is going on.
I run a Cisco 1841 (a12rtr) here which is my link to the HECnet. This is
established with three GRE tunnels to area 22, 61 and 42. This router is
inside a network that is edged with a Cisco ASA (gatekeeper). The router
a12rtr also has other GRE tunnels and 6in4 tunnels.
All tunnels are established and traffic is flowing over the ipv4 and ipv6
tunnels without issue. There is also traffic flowing over the DECnet
tunnels as well. However...
Despite having adjacencies for the three DECnet routers on the other end of
the DECnet tunnels, my routing table is not filling up.
Area Cost Hops Next Hop to Node Expires Prio
*12 0 0 (Local) -> A12RTR
Node Cost Hops Next Hop to Node Expires Prio
*(Area) 0 0 (Local) -> A12RTR
*BENDER 10 1 FastEthernet0/1 -> BENDER 60
*TRON 10 1 FastEthernet0/1 -> TRON 99
*ELYSIM 10 1 FastEthernet0/1 -> ELYSIM 1525
*A12RTR 0 0 (Local) -> A12RTR
a12rtr#show decnet neighbors
Net Node Interface MAC address Flags
0 22.1023 Tunnel58 0000.0000.0000 A
0 42.1022 Tunnel51 0000.0000.0000 A
0 61.1023 Tunnel53 0000.0000.0000 A
0 12.2 FastEthernet0/1 aa00.0400.0230
0 12.3 FastEthernet0/1 aa00.0400.0330
0 12.12 FastEthernet0/1 aa00.0400.0c30
I can also see that the routers are communicating when I switch on debug:
*Feb 15 04:19:37.007: DNET-ADJ: Endnode hello from 12.3
*Feb 15 04:19:39.835: DNET-ADJ: Level 2 hello from 42.1022
*Feb 15 04:19:39.835: DNET-ADJ: Level 2 (IV+) hello from 42.1022
*Feb 15 04:19:43.207: DNET-ADJ: Endnode hello from 12.2
*Feb 15 04:19:45.211: DNET-ADJ: Level 2 hello from 61.1023
*Feb 15 04:19:45.211: DNET-ADJ: Level 2 (IV+) hello from 61.1023
*Feb 15 04:19:46.315: DNET-ADJ: Level 2 hello from 22.1023
*Feb 15 04:19:46.315: DNET-ADJ: Level 2 (IV+) hello from 22.1023
So, I am a bit confused as to why there is no routing being exchanged. Is
this just a bug and I need to give the router a reboot (it has only been up
for 6 days).?
I did notice this:
a12rtr#show decnet database
Area/Node Cost Hops Next Hop to Node Status
12 0 0 (Local) -> A12RTR Active
22 20 1 Tunnel58 -> 22.1023 Backup
42 20 1 Tunnel51 -> 42.1022 Backup
61 20 1 Tunnel53 -> 61.1023 Backup
BENDER 10 1 FastEthernet0/1 -> BENDER Active
TRON 10 1 FastEthernet0/1 -> TRON Active
ELYSIM 10 1 FastEthernet0/1 -> ELYSIM Active
A12RTR 0 0 (Local) -> A12RTR Active
The tunnels are all listed as "backup". I've tried a lot of different
things and I'm still experimenting, but I still don't have an answer.
Despite a very long time working with this stuff I've never encountered a
situation where the routing table did not populate.
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated :-)
Regards, Tim.
