Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> writes:
You changed the IP address of the host machine running simh, and that
buggered your VMS licenses?
I find that very difficult to wrap my brain around. VERY difficult.
Especially, since SYS$GRANT_LICENSE doesn't know diddly about TCP/IP or
DECnet.
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Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
Tony Blews <tonyblews at gmail.com> writes:
Thanks! I had the name John Golf stuck in my head for some reason.
John Egolf. Nice fellow.
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Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> writes:
On 06/04/2013 06:01 PM, Tony Blews wrote:
I've had my machine (TARDIS) offline for a while due to moving house, being
hospitalised and then going on holiday.
So, now I've come to restart the thing, it seems my licenses have expired,
which shouldn't have happened until September. Could this be down to moving
the simh instance to a new machine and giving it a new ip address?
That should have no effect on the licensing. The OS running under the
emulator has no access to that information; it thinks it's a real VAX.
Anyway, where do i get the licenses from again? All the addresses I had
either don't work, or give me completely unrelated websites.
If it is/was a Hobbyist license PAK, it must be renewed yearly.
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VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG
Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
The clock is showing the right time/date on both the Pi and the VAX instance. The licenses were due up on Sept 3rd. I've tried copying the old ones in (tedious!) but they don't work.
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:39 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 4 Jun 2013, at 18:38, "Dave McGuire" <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
>
> On 06/04/2013 06:35 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
>>> You changed the IP address of the host machine running simh, and that
>>> buggered your VMS licenses?
>>>
>>> I find that very difficult to wrap my brain around. VERY difficult.
>>
>> I've taken that almost to an extreme without issues. I also find that difficult to believe.
>
> Yes. It's two abstraction layers away from what changed, and one of those
> layers (simh<->emulated system) is impenetrable by the guest OS.
I've changed versions of simh, host OSes, host networking configurations and so forth and my licenses haven't yet expired.
Maybe his clock got knocked off?
>
> -Dave
>
> --
> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
> New Kensington, PA
On 4 Jun 2013, at 18:38, "Dave McGuire" <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 06/04/2013 06:35 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
You changed the IP address of the host machine running simh, and that
buggered your VMS licenses?
I find that very difficult to wrap my brain around. VERY difficult.
I've taken that almost to an extreme without issues. I also find that difficult to believe.
Yes. It's two abstraction layers away from what changed, and one of those
layers (simh<->emulated system) is impenetrable by the guest OS.
I've changed versions of simh, host OSes, host networking configurations and so forth and my licenses haven't yet expired.
Maybe his clock got knocked off?
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 06/04/2013 06:35 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
You changed the IP address of the host machine running simh, and that
buggered your VMS licenses?
I find that very difficult to wrap my brain around. VERY difficult.
I've taken that almost to an extreme without issues. I also find that difficult to believe.
Yes. It's two abstraction layers away from what changed, and one of those
layers (simh<->emulated system) is impenetrable by the guest OS.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 4 Jun 2013, at 18:26, "Dave McGuire" <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
You changed the IP address of the host machine running simh, and that
buggered your VMS licenses?
I find that very difficult to wrap my brain around. VERY difficult.
I've taken that almost to an extreme without issues. I also find that difficult to believe.
-Dave
On 06/04/2013 06:14 PM, Tony Blews wrote:
Aye, it is for VMS. I only mentioned the IP address stuff as last time I
re-jigged my network I had the same problem and had to re-register it all.
I'll try contacting Mr. Egolf before doing anything else.
Tony.
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:07 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com
<mailto:mcguire at neurotica.com>> wrote:
On 06/04/2013 06:01 PM, Tony Blews wrote:
I've had my machine (TARDIS) offline for a while due to moving house, being
hospitalised and then going on holiday.
So, now I've come to restart the thing, it seems my licenses have expired,
which shouldn't have happened until September. Could this be down to moving
the simh instance to a new machine and giving it a new ip address?
That should have no effect on the licensing. The OS running under the
emulator has no access to that information; it thinks it's a real VAX.
Anyway, where do i get the licenses from again? All the addresses I had
either don't work, or give me completely unrelated websites.
I assume this is for VMS? I can send you a license if needed.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
You changed the IP address of the host machine running simh, and that
buggered your VMS licenses?
I find that very difficult to wrap my brain around. VERY difficult.
-Dave
On 06/04/2013 06:14 PM, Tony Blews wrote:
Aye, it is for VMS. I only mentioned the IP address stuff as last time I
re-jigged my network I had the same problem and had to re-register it all.
I'll try contacting Mr. Egolf before doing anything else.
Tony.
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:07 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com
<mailto:mcguire at neurotica.com>> wrote:
On 06/04/2013 06:01 PM, Tony Blews wrote:
I've had my machine (TARDIS) offline for a while due to moving house, being
hospitalised and then going on holiday.
So, now I've come to restart the thing, it seems my licenses have expired,
which shouldn't have happened until September. Could this be down to moving
the simh instance to a new machine and giving it a new ip address?
That should have no effect on the licensing. The OS running under the
emulator has no access to that information; it thinks it's a real VAX.
Anyway, where do i get the licenses from again? All the addresses I had
either don't work, or give me completely unrelated websites.
I assume this is for VMS? I can send you a license if needed.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Well I've emailed him. I'll let you know.
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:15 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-06-05 00:07, Mark Wickens wrote:
On 04/06/2013 23:01, Tony Blews wrote:
Hi,
I've had my machine (TARDIS) offline for a while due to moving house,
being hospitalised and then going on holiday.
So, now I've come to restart the thing, it seems my licenses have
expired, which shouldn't have happened until September. Could this be
down to moving the simh instance to a new machine and giving it a new
ip address?
Anyway, where do i get the licenses from again? All the addresses I
had either don't work, or give me completely unrelated websites.
Tony
(probably being stupid again)
Tony,
It should be here: http://www.openvms.org/hobbyist but it doesn't appear
to be very healthy at the moment.
If I remember right, that was the place before HP took more direct control over things a while ago. Now it's done directly with HP in some way, if I remember right.
The licenses were coming from John: John.Egolf at hp.com - you could try
emailing him directly to make sure the above URI is correct.
That is probably a good start.
Johnny
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Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
On 2013-06-05 00:07, Mark Wickens wrote:
On 04/06/2013 23:01, Tony Blews wrote:
Hi,
I've had my machine (TARDIS) offline for a while due to moving house,
being hospitalised and then going on holiday.
So, now I've come to restart the thing, it seems my licenses have
expired, which shouldn't have happened until September. Could this be
down to moving the simh instance to a new machine and giving it a new
ip address?
Anyway, where do i get the licenses from again? All the addresses I
had either don't work, or give me completely unrelated websites.
Tony
(probably being stupid again)
Tony,
It should be here: http://www.openvms.org/hobbyist but it doesn't appear
to be very healthy at the moment.
If I remember right, that was the place before HP took more direct control over things a while ago. Now it's done directly with HP in some way, if I remember right.
The licenses were coming from John: John.Egolf at hp.com - you could try
emailing him directly to make sure the above URI is correct.
That is probably a good start.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
