On Sun, 16 Jun 2013, Gregg Levine wrote:
Hello!
Why not ask Google(!) regarding the different penguins who cover the
planet? That's one reason. The other reason is that its different. And
appropriate. Linux is different so it needs its own individual
packaging system.
Why does a Hat and a Lizard agree on packaging schemes?
Or for that matter why do so many anarchists agree on one thing? The
licensing scheme. Sampsa I admire your efforts for that post on your
blog, but when you consider that someone needed to do something first,
there's a reason for everything.
One talented individual had an interesting philosophy and it boils
down to one thing, "Let's be unreasonable.".
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But this does not explain Cory why your entire house is surrounded by
several bored and very hungry Yetis? And it does not explain why
Sampsa there is something resembling a rock digging through things all
around your flat.
Isn't it obvious? They're Linux Kernel developers.
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On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 16 Jun 2013, at 17:22, "Sampsa Laine" <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
At least with the BSDs you have like 3 variants.
Why do these morons insist there must be 300+ ways to package a kernel and
the same userland tools?
Same reason we have a startup bubble right now: community (or school
counsellor) pressure. This also applies to the media saying: this is great
for the soul!"
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +961 788 10537
On 17 Jun 2013, at 00:18, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 16 Jun 2013, at 17:15, "Sampsa Laine" <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
http://www.sampsa.com/2013/06/16/linux-wannabe-devs-the-few-the-brave-the-s…
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +961 788 10537
Linux is 95% politics, 3% needless ABI/API changes, 1% new features, 1%
championing a twisted version of freedom.
This generally applies to both the kernel and the distros...Linux inherited
the nonstandard standards and incompatibility-across-distros thing from UNIX
unfortunately. :(
LSB is NOT standard...RedHat is also not the Gold Standard for a
commercial linux or a linux period.
Hello!
Why not ask Google(!) regarding the different penguins who cover the
planet? That's one reason. The other reason is that its different. And
appropriate. Linux is different so it needs its own individual
packaging system.
Why does a Hat and a Lizard agree on packaging schemes?
Or for that matter why do so many anarchists agree on one thing? The
licensing scheme. Sampsa I admire your efforts for that post on your
blog, but when you consider that someone needed to do something first,
there's a reason for everything.
One talented individual had an interesting philosophy and it boils
down to one thing, "Let's be unreasonable.".
----
But this does not explain Cory why your entire house is surrounded by
several bored and very hungry Yetis? And it does not explain why
Sampsa there is something resembling a rock digging through things all
around your flat.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On 2013-06-16 23:15, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 06/16/2013 05:13 PM, Bob Armstrong wrote:
Send me one too - I need another terminal server!
Do you, seriously? (and didn't we discuss this before? bad memory here)
I have many spare 200/MCs, I'd be happy to send you one or two. The Emulex
TSs really do have blown power supplies. All of them, I think.
If you have plenty of them, I have a DS300 in need of a new PS here... ;-) (It's the same as the 200)
Johnny
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email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
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On 16 Jun 2013, at 17:22, "Sampsa Laine" <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
At least with the BSDs you have like 3 variants.
Why do these morons insist there must be 300+ ways to package a kernel and the same userland tools?
Same reason we have a startup bubble right now: community (or school counsellor) pressure. This also applies to the media saying: this is great for the soul!"
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +961 788 10537
On 17 Jun 2013, at 00:18, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 16 Jun 2013, at 17:15, "Sampsa Laine" <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
http://www.sampsa.com/2013/06/16/linux-wannabe-devs-the-few-the-brave-the-s…
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +961 788 10537
Linux is 95% politics, 3% needless ABI/API changes, 1% new features, 1% championing a twisted version of freedom.
This generally applies to both the kernel and the distros...Linux inherited the nonstandard standards and incompatibility-across-distros thing from UNIX unfortunately. :(
LSB is NOT standard...RedHat is also not the Gold Standard for a commercial linux or a linux period.
At least with the BSDs you have like 3 variants.
Why do these morons insist there must be 300+ ways to package a kernel and the same userland tools?
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +961 788 10537
On 17 Jun 2013, at 00:18, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 16 Jun 2013, at 17:15, "Sampsa Laine" <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
http://www.sampsa.com/2013/06/16/linux-wannabe-devs-the-few-the-brave-the-s…
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +961 788 10537
Linux is 95% politics, 3% needless ABI/API changes, 1% new features, 1% championing a twisted version of freedom.
This generally applies to both the kernel and the distros...Linux inherited the nonstandard standards and incompatibility-across-distros thing from UNIX unfortunately. :(
LSB is NOT standard...RedHat is also not the Gold Standard for a commercial linux or a linux period.
On 16 Jun 2013, at 17:15, "Sampsa Laine" <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
http://www.sampsa.com/2013/06/16/linux-wannabe-devs-the-few-the-brave-the-s…
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +961 788 10537
Linux is 95% politics, 3% needless ABI/API changes, 1% new features, 1% championing a twisted version of freedom.
This generally applies to both the kernel and the distros...Linux inherited the nonstandard standards and incompatibility-across-distros thing from UNIX unfortunately. :(
LSB is NOT standard...RedHat is also not the Gold Standard for a commercial linux or a linux period.
On 16 Jun 2013, at 17:11, "Dave McGuire" <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 06/16/2013 05:08 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On 16 Jun 2013, at 16:59, "Dave McGuire" <mcguire at neurotica.com
<mailto:mcguire at neurotica.com>> wrote:
On 06/16/2013 04:51 PM, Bob Armstrong wrote:
Dave McGuire wrote:
I've never heard of it
http://h30266.www3.hp.com/masterindex/installation_guide/installation_guide_
0000b767.txt
It's basically the VMS kit that contains the DS200 load software, but it
comes with several useful command procedures too.
Neat! Thanks for the pointer. I've always just gotten the bare images and
dropped them into place...I guess I never stopped to think of how those
images would've gotten installed in the first place.
When I was a VMS sysadmin, we used a few Emulex terminal servers
("Performance 4000" if memory serves) that were really nice...I don't recall
them having to boot from the network, though. I have a few of those here
with dead power supplies. I should send them to Cory. ;)
Go ahead. ;) I m could use some more systems to replace the power supplies
on! :)
Be careful of what you ask for! B-)
Good thing a lot of stuff can double as furniture! A solid stack of switches and terminal servers is better than some of the crap you d find at IKEA!
My supply of computer PSUs is running short, I might need to start scrapping
other stuff.
PC power supplies shouldn't be to tough to find...Craigslist, etc?
Yeah, it just involves finding em in bulk.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 06/16/2013 05:13 PM, Bob Armstrong wrote:
Send me one too - I need another terminal server!
Do you, seriously? (and didn't we discuss this before? bad memory here)
I have many spare 200/MCs, I'd be happy to send you one or two. The Emulex
TSs really do have blown power supplies. All of them, I think.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 06/16/2013 05:12 PM, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
Dave McGuire wrote:
I've never heard of it
http://h30266.www3.hp.com/masterindex/installation_guide/installation_guide_
0000b767.txt
It's basically the VMS kit that contains the DS200 load software, but it
comes with several useful command procedures too.
Neat! Thanks for the pointer. I've always just gotten the bare images and
dropped them into place...I guess I never stopped to think of how those
images would've gotten installed in the first place.
When I was a VMS sysadmin, we used a few Emulex terminal servers
("Performance 4000" if memory serves) that were really nice...I don't recall
them having to boot from the network, though. I have a few of those here
with dead power supplies. I should send them to Cory. ;)
They did and they had their own kludgy load assist agent for MOP.
Ahh, your memory is better than mine! Could they boot from the regular MOP
server or did they require that agent?
The Datability (Vista) Terminal Servers had their software in flash.
Never 'eard of 'em.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
