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by Paul_Koning＠Dell.com

On Jun 25, 2013, at 7:19 PM, Bob Armstrong wrote: link to GORVAX, but the IP address I'm using seems to be dead... Same here - the Multinet link to GORVAX hasn't worked for a while. Multinet (over UDP) is such a fundamentally broken idea that it would be a *really* good idea to get rid of it. Every other option is vastly superior. GRE is a good one because it emulates a datagram datalink (Ethernet) over a datagram transport (IP). SIMH DMC-11 emulation is good because it emulation a connection oriented datalink (DDCMP) over a connection transport (TCP). Conversely, Multinet runs a connectionless transport to carry DECnet point to point traffic, in gross violation of most of the datalink requirements. So it only just barely works part of the time, and it can't possibly ever work any better. paul

12 years, 5 months

SIMH idle

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 11:06 AM, <Paul_Koning at dell.com> wrote: PDP11 and VAX most definitely DO support idle. PDP11 idle is tied to the WAIT instruction, which is used by most operating systems (but not by RT11). VAX idle is tied to weird magic that matches code sequences against known ways of various operating systems to code their idle loops, so it's a bit more fragile -- and you have to tell it which OS you're using. paul On Jun 26, 2013, at 12:22 AM, Gregg Levine wrote: Hello! Mark, I've built SIMH (again) and had the rig record the build functions via script. I then bundled up everything that could possibly be of interest as you related an earlier discussion as it applies to the emulated video display methods for several emulated systems. I mentioned that it build properly as it applies to the ones I am interested in, but that the PDP11 and the VAX ones do not support the Idle functions. As least it said idle disabled on the opening screen for the SIMH PDP11 one. On the page describing what Equipment Wanted is what I'm currently looking for, I added to the text there my files that you're looking for, and they are named simb.txt, and then pdp11.txt and then simstart.txt. Remember I mentioned that I wasn't sure that this mail service supported attachments. On that previous e-mail I also mentioned what else was involved. Please use it as a reference to those, and also include the relevant earlier portions of that thread. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." Hello! Good to know then Paul. However I'm waiting on an update from Mark on the behind the scenes sorting. I'm still working on what will happen up front however..... ---- Dave please stop staring at that pair of big vans painted an annoying green and that oddly colored old car...... ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

12 years, 5 months

SIMH idle

by Paul_Koning＠Dell.com

PDP11 and VAX most definitely DO support idle. PDP11 idle is tied to the WAIT instruction, which is used by most operating systems (but not by RT11). VAX idle is tied to weird magic that matches code sequences against known ways of various operating systems to code their idle loops, so it's a bit more fragile -- and you have to tell it which OS you're using. paul On Jun 26, 2013, at 12:22 AM, Gregg Levine wrote: Hello! Mark, I've built SIMH (again) and had the rig record the build functions via script. I then bundled up everything that could possibly be of interest as you related an earlier discussion as it applies to the emulated video display methods for several emulated systems. I mentioned that it build properly as it applies to the ones I am interested in, but that the PDP11 and the VAX ones do not support the Idle functions. As least it said idle disabled on the opening screen for the SIMH PDP11 one. On the page describing what Equipment Wanted is what I'm currently looking for, I added to the text there my files that you're looking for, and they are named simb.txt, and then pdp11.txt and then simstart.txt. Remember I mentioned that I wasn't sure that this mail service supported attachments. On that previous e-mail I also mentioned what else was involved. Please use it as a reference to those, and also include the relevant earlier portions of that thread. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

12 years, 5 months

Adjacency With Node 19.41 Bouncing

by jeep＠scshome.net

-----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Bob Armstrong Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 19:19 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: RE: [HECnet] Adjacency With Node 19.41 Bouncing link to GORVAX, but the IP address I'm using seems to be dead... Same here - the Multinet link to GORVAX hasn't worked for a while. Bob Unfortunately GORVAX:: no longer runs Multinet since Sampsa rebuilt it. -Steve

12 years, 5 months

SIMH idle

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

Hello! Mark, I've built SIMH (again) and had the rig record the build functions via script. I then bundled up everything that could possibly be of interest as you related an earlier discussion as it applies to the emulated video display methods for several emulated systems. I mentioned that it build properly as it applies to the ones I am interested in, but that the PDP11 and the VAX ones do not support the Idle functions. As least it said idle disabled on the opening screen for the SIMH PDP11 one. On the page describing what Equipment Wanted is what I'm currently looking for, I added to the text there my files that you're looking for, and they are named simb.txt, and then pdp11.txt and then simstart.txt. Remember I mentioned that I wasn't sure that this mail service supported attachments. On that previous e-mail I also mentioned what else was involved. Please use it as a reference to those, and also include the relevant earlier portions of that thread. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

12 years, 5 months

RE: [DECtec] Slight OT: SIMH Framebuffer support

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Mark Pizzolato - Info Comm <Mark at infocomm.com> wrote: On Saturday, June 15, 2013 at 10:49 PM, Gregg Levine wrote: On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 1:18 AM, Mark Pizzolato - Info Comm <Mark at infocomm.com> wrote: On Saturday, June 15, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Gregg Levine wrote: On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 12:51 AM, Mark Pizzolato - Info Comm <Mark at infocomm.com> wrote: On Thursday, June 13, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Gregg Levine wrote: On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Mark Pizzolato - Info Comm <Mark at infocomm.com> wrote: On Tuesday, June 11, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Mark Pizzolato wrote: On Tuesday, June 11, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Sampsa Laine write: This looks cool, anyone try it? http://www.9track.net/simh/video/ Hi Sampsa, How timely of you to observe this today. Just last night I got code pieces from Matt Burke (the guy at 9track.net) to add VCB01 (QVSS) support to the simh codebase for the MicroVAX I and MicroVAX II simulators. I'm in the process of merging that code and adding the necessary build mechanisms to the makefile as we speak. This will be cleaned up and visible at https://github.com/simh/simh in at most a couple of days.... For folks who build their own binaries, the latest github code has a VAXStation I and VAXStation II with the MonoChrome QVSS video capabilities. sim> SET CPU MODEL=VAXSTATION enables the video subsystem. The VAXStation I has a limit of 4MB of RAM, the VAXStation II has a limit of 16MB. The makefile should just build the right thing if the development support for libSDL is installed on your platform. Please provide bug reports and/or other feedback with issues created at https://github.com/simh/simh/issues There is a glitch in my scripts which build and package the windows binaries which is failing to build the simulators with video support, so folks who count on the Windows Binaries will have to wait until I fix this. The Windows Binaries (including VAXStation I and VAXStation II) are now available at: https://github.com/simh/Win32-Development-Binaries Download the latest zip file. Hello! Nice to know Mark. Any suggestions for implementing it on a Raspberry Pi system w/ 512MB of memory? I don't see any reason it wouldn't work as long as you've got the right SDL development pieces available. I did get the code outside of your screen idea to build properly. I'm not sure what this sentence means.... what does "code outside of your screen idea" mean? - Mark Hello! Oh sorry. I meant everything contained within the entire SIMH retrieval except for the screen presentation method. I think you are trying to say that all simulators except the MicroVAX I (VAXStation I) and MicroVAX II (VAXStation II) built. OK, that is expected. Numerous folks are running the latest code on Raspberry Pi systems. The QVSS video on the MicroVAX I and MicroVAX II simulators was just merged into the code base last week. If you can't get the MicroVAX I and MicroVAX II to build, I'm going to need more information to help. Please create an issue at https://github.com/simh/simh/issues to record the problem and to contain the details of chasing this down to a solution. Please Include the output produced when you attempted to build these simulators. Thanks. - Mark Hello! That's just it Mark. After using the git pull <repository name> command to pull everything into the source directory I chose, I then entered the created one, examined everything briefly, and then entered the command make and off it went. I first made the BIN directory, and then did that. I did need to build the Altair ones out of sequence however. Also the Nova one as well. I did not make the ones for the older IBM machines or the other simulators that I wasn't familiar with. I found that the screen thing needed the SDL library and I wasn't ready to massage the repositories that make up Debian on Raspberry Pi to find that one so I let wait. My only complaint is that when I ran the vax simulation to confirm that was all working, it then told me that the IDLE function was disabled, that was when I asked it about the devices. Hi Gregg, Nothing in the new codebase should have changed idle behavior (or availability) for any simulator. Please provide the output of "SHOW VERSION" in the simulator which isn't behaving as you want. The complete output produced when the simulator was built will also be useful. - Mark Hello! Coming up soon Mark. Several days ago I reconfigured my Raspberry Pi to reflect using the most recent and updated release of Debian on the thing, and containing the materials for our concerns. (That meant I ran the regular tools for Debian to update things on it.) And as it happens I also earlier did a fresh pull from your Git repository and built everything fresh. Then the system told me that it was as I related earlier. I'm not sure if the mail list can support attachments so when I get everything ready I'll create a new thread and provide details as to where everything is available. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

12 years, 5 months

Adjacency With Node 19.41 Bouncing

by bob＠jfcl.com

link to GORVAX, but the IP address I'm using seems to be dead... Same here - the Multinet link to GORVAX hasn't worked for a while. Bob

12 years, 5 months

Adjacency With Node 19.41 Bouncing

by jg＠jordi.guillaumes.name

El 25/06/2013, a les 23:14, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> va escriure: Nothing has changed here - I have not been around to play. In any event I have stopped, and rebooted the bridge and, SG1:: is rebooting - just in case. Oh, by the way, now that you mention SG1... That node _used_ to be my backup link to Hecnet using the multinet DECNET-over-IP thing. My primary link used to be GORVAX, but right now ALL my links go thru SG1. My box still tries to set up the link to GORVAX, but the IP address I'm using seems to be dead... Jordi Guillaumes i Pons jg at jordi.guillaumes.name HECnet: BITXOV::JGUILLAUMES

12 years, 5 months

Adjacency With Node 19.41 Bouncing

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2013-06-25 02:15, Steve Davidson wrote: Nothing has changed here - I have not been around to play. In any event I have stopped, and rebooted the bridge and, SG1:: is rebooting - just in case. Ok. Interesting. So now you seem to have a connection through KUHAVX, looking from MIM. The direct link does not seem to be active, even though I enabled it again on my side. But when I disabled it, I could not reach you. So, did you enable some other link as well, or did you already have a second one, which was also non-functional perhaps? Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

12 years, 5 months

Adjacency With Node 19.41 Bouncing

by blmink＠mink.su

24.06.2013 19:57, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons : El 24/06/2013, a les 17:11, Johnny Billquist<bqt at softjar.se> va escriure: Turns out SKNLIN:: is running Linux. I think there are lots of unsolved issues/problems with DECnet under Linux. Just pointing it out so people can be ware... It runs reasonabily well as endnode; routing is _very_ broken, specially level 2 routing. Linux was a temorary routing solution for me. It will be replaced with RSX in a couple of days. Fedor.

12 years, 5 months

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