On 09/10/2013 06:49 AM, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
So I'm toying with the idea of putting a Raspberry Pi + LCD screen + =
keyboard into an old Intertec (?) SuperBrain case, for use as a beefed =
up terminal (basically have it boot Linux, run SIMH and load VMS or =
something).
Any of you guys got a recommendation as to what USB-serial adapter works =
best in Linux?
I have a KeySpan 19HS which works quite well with Linux. I also have an
EdgePort/416 which works with both Linux and OpenVMS!
EdgePort/416 => http://tinyurl.com/nqa78we
Those EdgePort boxes also work on Sun Ray thin clients, showing up as
serial devices on the host system. Very nice.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On Sep 10, 2013, at 4:30 AM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
So I'm toying with the idea of putting a Raspberry Pi + LCD screen + keyboard into an old Intertec (?) SuperBrain case, for use as a beefed up terminal (basically have it boot Linux, run SIMH and load VMS or something).
Any of you guys got a recommendation as to what USB-serial adapter works best in Linux?
I have used two, both of which work fine with Linux on a PC: the FTDI "chip in the cable" adapters, and one made by TrippLite (sold at Staples).
However, neither was recognized by my BeagleBone (which runs ARM Linux, ngstr m distribution). That may well be just a case of not having the right modules installed. I don't use Raspberry PI (I prefer the open hardware that I get with BB) but since it too is ARM the situation might be the same. Then again, BB also comes with a Ubuntu distribution, which might have the necessary USB modules included as standard.
Finally, again on BB, there's an additional option: that device has 6 built-in UARTs, of which 5.5 are available on connectors (one on a 6-pin "debug" header, the rest on the 2x46 pin expansion connectors). Those are 3.3 volt logic levels, but you can get, or build, RS232 adapters for them. I just built a 4 port RS232 adapter, in fact. So with that, you don't need any USB devices at all and the stock small OS build is sufficient.
paul
Actually, I've had problems finding ones that won't work in Linux -- including
the really cheap $8.00 ones of eBay.
The ones that stopped working in Windows7 all still work in Linux.
The ones with the FTDI chipset are supposed to be the most stable and best.
http://www.ftdichip.com/FTDrivers.htmhttp://www.ftdichip.com/Support/Documents/DataSheets/Cables/DS_USB_RS232_CA…
One vendor with that chipset appears to be:
http://www.usconverters.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=67&produ…
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On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 6:49 AM, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- <system at tmesis.com> wrote:
Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> writes:
>So I'm toying with the idea of putting a Raspberry Pi + LCD screen + =
>keyboard into an old Intertec (?) SuperBrain case, for use as a beefed =
>up terminal (basically have it boot Linux, run SIMH and load VMS or =
>something).
>
>Any of you guys got a recommendation as to what USB-serial adapter works =
>best in Linux?
I have a KeySpan 19HS which works quite well with Linux. I also have an
EdgePort/416 which works with both Linux and OpenVMS!
EdgePort/416 => http://tinyurl.com/nqa78we
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Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
On 10/09/2013 12:46, Mark Benson wrote:
Would I be a mile out if I thought the CPU board was the same board they used in the PWS series Alpha/Pentium systems. They also used 21164s on a slot-in board with a sepsrate backplane board for ISA/PCI?
Also anyone got any idea what OSs these run. I know some other DEC flavour industrial machines are restricted and won't run VMS?
Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dec-Digital-Alpha-21164-500-Mhz-PICMG-DMCC-Indust…
No bids and it's pretty low priced for now..
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
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Mark Benson
It will run all DIGITAL operating systems. It is a Takara apparently.
The ebay seller is really good - it came with a CD will all the original PDFs on.
Regards, Mark.
Would I be a mile out if I thought the CPU board was the same board they used in the PWS series Alpha/Pentium systems. They also used 21164s on a slot-in board with a sepsrate backplane board for ISA/PCI?
Also anyone got any idea what OSs these run. I know some other DEC flavour industrial machines are restricted and won't run VMS?
Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dec-Digital-Alpha-21164-500-Mhz-PICMG-DMCC-Indust…
No bids and it's pretty low priced for now..
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
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Mark Benson
If you can stand not having advanced handshaking it's very easy to tack a native serial port onto the GPIO connection. It's a better solution IMHO.
You will need a TTL to RS232 level shifter and some link wires. Be aware some RS232 level shifters with ports are ALREADY crossed over (mine is) so mak sure you're clear on it.
While USB to RS232 adapters are largely fine I've had some nasty quirks using them with SimH.
Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
So I'm toying with the idea of putting a Raspberry Pi + LCD screen + keyboard into an old Intertec (?) SuperBrain case, for use as a beefed up terminal (basically have it boot Linux, run SIMH and load VMS or something).
Any of you guys got a recommendation as to what USB-serial adapter works best in Linux?
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
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Mark Benson
Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> writes:
So I'm toying with the idea of putting a Raspberry Pi + LCD screen + =
keyboard into an old Intertec (?) SuperBrain case, for use as a beefed =
up terminal (basically have it boot Linux, run SIMH and load VMS or =
something).
Any of you guys got a recommendation as to what USB-serial adapter works =
best in Linux?
I have a KeySpan 19HS which works quite well with Linux. I also have an
EdgePort/416 which works with both Linux and OpenVMS!
EdgePort/416 => http://tinyurl.com/nqa78we
--
VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG
Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
On 10/09/2013 09:39, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Yeah, typo, sorry guys.
That looks like a nifty system though..
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
On 10 Sep 2013, at 10:33, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dec-Digital-Alpha-21164-500-Mhz-PICMG-DMCC-Indust…
No bids and it's pretty low priced for now..
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
I just bought one ;)
The plan being to convert it into a 'briefcase' system...
Mark.