On 09/27/2013 09:07 PM, Bob Armstrong wrote:
Probably. Speaking of terminals, I would LOVE to get my hands on a
working VT180..
You could maybe talk me out of one for the right swap, maybe, ....
I've also got a Robin (don't tell Sampsa!) but it's missing the
plastic cover that goes over the back of the card cage. Would you have
an extra one of those? I'll swap you a VT62 for one (you pay the
shipping :-)
I might actually have a spare one of those, strangely enough. I know
I have a spare VT1xx cover, but I'm not sure which submodel it's for. I
will have to dig for it. Keep after me about it when you think of it.
Doesn't interfere with the functionality, but I like my stuff to look
good :-)
Same here.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 2013-09-27 17:52, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 09/27/2013 08:48 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Probably. Speaking of terminals, I would LOVE to get my hands on a working VT180..
You could maybe talk me out of one for the right swap, maybe, ....
I've also got a Robin (don't tell Sampsa!) but it's missing the plastic cover that goes over the back of the card cage. Would you have an extra one of those? I'll swap you a VT62 for one (you pay the shipping :-)
Doesn't interfere with the functionality, but I like my stuff to look good :-)
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Bob
From: Bob Armstrong <bob at jfcl.com>
What can be done (non-destructive suggestions only, please) with a
VT-62? This is NOT a VT52 (although it looks like one). The VT62 is a
block mode terminal that, I think, actually speaks DDCMP. AFAIK it's
incapable of being a plain ASCII terminal unless there's some hack I'm
unaware of.
Have you tried it? I had a VT62 on my PDT-11/150 in college and I know
there was supposed to be a block mode, but it also worked fine as just a
VT52 clone, but with a speaker for keyclick/^G instead of a clacker, ESC T
switches you to reverse video and ESC U switches you back, and after column
72 there are tabs at every column. Other than that it's exactly a VT52 IIRC.
No idea if mine had been jumpered or had the ROMs switched or anything
to make it so normal. I bought it from an ex-DEC-employee (DEC dumped
a lot of the PDTs to their own employees) and I suppose it's possible
he got a special version.
John Wilson
D Bit
On 09/27/2013 08:55 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Yeah, it's a pity, I'm a big fan of VT terminals and CP/M boxes, and this is both.
Dream system really :)
I share your affinities on all three counts...the first, the second,
and the combination.
Actually the DEC Rainbow looks pretty cool too, could run CP/M-86 and -80 plus use it in VT102 mode.
Neat, yes, but the VT180 is nicer IMO.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 28 Sep 2013, at 02:52, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 09/27/2013 08:48 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Probably. Speaking of terminals, I would LOVE to get my hands on a working VT180..
We know. ;)
CP/M + VT100 in one box = cool :)
Extremely.
You could maybe talk me out of one for the right swap, maybe, but
you're on the wrong side of the water and I'll not be packing up one of
these.
Yeah, it's a pity, I'm a big fan of VT terminals and CP/M boxes, and this is both.
Dream system really :)
Actually the DEC Rainbow looks pretty cool too, could run CP/M-86 and -80 plus use it in VT102 mode.
On 09/27/2013 08:51 PM, Bob Armstrong wrote:
They make use of a custom CPU, or perhaps just a state machine. Got
prints?
That's true of the VT52, however the logic in the VT62 is completely
different. I don't know anything about it, but just looking at the
logic board you can see that it's not even close to a 52. I've no idea
what's in the 62.
I am pretty sure the VT62 is "more of the same". No hardware in
common, but a similar overall architecture. I could be mistaken,
however, and would love to know more, but information about that model
is very tough to come by.
I suppose it's remotely possible that the VT131 speaks the same
protocol, and it's documented. One could try based on that...the worst
that could happen is that it won't work, right?
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 09/27/2013 08:48 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Probably. Speaking of terminals, I would LOVE to get my hands on a working VT180..
We know. ;)
CP/M + VT100 in one box = cool :)
Extremely.
You could maybe talk me out of one for the right swap, maybe, but
you're on the wrong side of the water and I'll not be packing up one of
these.
Also would love one of the ReGIS/SIXEL capable boxes too..
VT240, VT330, VT340. All are glorious, and all are here.
Too bad I'm travelling so much now, have to tone down the hardware collecting..
That's a problem that can be solved.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 2013-09-27 17:48, Dave McGuire wrote:
They make use of a custom CPU, or perhaps just a state machine. Got prints?
That's true of the VT52, however the logic in the VT62 is completely different. I don't know anything about it, but just looking at the logic board you can see that it's not even close to a 52. I've no idea what's in the 62.
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Bob
On 09/27/2013 08:47 PM, Bob Armstrong wrote:
I would write something cool to take advantage of its strengths.
Got documentation on how to talk to it??
Sadly I do not. They make use of a custom CPU, or perhaps just a
state machine. Got prints?
It might be too smart for us :-)
Nonsense! B-)
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
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On 28 Sep 2013, at 02:45, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 09/27/2013 08:43 PM, Bob Armstrong wrote:
Doesn't the VT-62 do graphics?
I'm pretty sure "not" - maybe you're thinking of a VT102?
VT102 doesn't do graphics either.
Maybe the two of you are thinking of the VT55 and VT125, respectively.
Probably. Speaking of terminals, I would LOVE to get my hands on a working VT180..
CP/M + VT100 in one box = cool :)
Also would love one of the ReGIS/SIXEL capable boxes too..
Too bad I'm travelling so much now, have to tone down the hardware collecting..
sampsa
