On 2013-10-08 15:25, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Uh... Why would it? There is no difference between a modem and a terminal here. They both come in to the machine over a serial line, and then VMS expects you to log in.
Yes, the modem should be set up correctly, and then it's just a piece of equipment in the communication path, which is totally transparent.
The wiggling of the DCD is how a modem (or terminal) tell the computer that it is connected.
Would you expect VMS to spew out hayes commands when you connect a terminal?
No, this is why I advice to set the modem up with sane defaults before hooking it up :)
But some UNIX getty's DO speak Hayes AT so it's not that far-fetched an idea..
So, how do the Unix getty know that there is a hayes modem on the serial line, and not a terminal?
Johnny
Would you expect VMS to spew out hayes commands when you connect a terminal?
Also, it wouldn't have to do it on EVERY port, something like SET TERM/HAYES TTA0: would enable Hayes phone answering on that port only.
Uh... Why would it? There is no difference between a modem and a terminal here. They both come in to the machine over a serial line, and then VMS expects you to log in.
Yes, the modem should be set up correctly, and then it's just a piece of equipment in the communication path, which is totally transparent.
The wiggling of the DCD is how a modem (or terminal) tell the computer that it is connected.
Would you expect VMS to spew out hayes commands when you connect a terminal?
No, this is why I advice to set the modem up with sane defaults before hooking it up :)
But some UNIX getty's DO speak Hayes AT so it's not that far-fetched an idea..
sampsa
On 2013-10-08 15:17, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Yeah, I'd hook up a terminal first, set ATS0=1 (autoanswer) and then store the defaults in the modem's NVRAM. That way the modem just raises the DCD line when a connection has been made.
As far as I know VMS doesn't really speak Hayes AT.
Uh... Why would it? There is no difference between a modem and a terminal here. They both come in to the machine over a serial line, and then VMS expects you to log in.
Yes, the modem should be set up correctly, and then it's just a piece of equipment in the communication path, which is totally transparent.
The wiggling of the DCD is how a modem (or terminal) tell the computer that it is connected.
Would you expect VMS to spew out hayes commands when you connect a terminal?
Johnny
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On 8 Oct 2013, at 15:10, Daniel Soderstrom <snaggs at mac.com> wrote:
I have a brand new US Robotics HST and Telebit Trailblazer I saved from the day. If I wack one on the serial point of a VAX can it take calls? :)
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On 8 Oct 2013, at 8:35 pm, Joe Ferraro <jferraro at gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, that's the way to go. I'm tempted to buy an ancient Nokia GSM phone, get a data number for it and a serial adapter, and plug it into my DS300..9600 bps dial up access, woo hoo!
I kinda still enjoy dial up... are there any active modems on 'the net'? Sampsa, you and I tried this once, a long time back... not sure if we ever connected, but I didn't have POTS at the time...
So if I install this thing (it'll cost me about 15 euros a month) how much use do you think I'll get (i.e. how many inbound calls).
Mark, this would be a great demo at various vintage events, ISDN over GSM talking to a DECserver that connects to a VAXcluster :)
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On 8 Oct 2013, at 14:44, Joe Ferraro <jferraro at gmail.com> wrote:
Great!
I'll give it a whirl when I get outta work this evening (assuming time permits!).
I'll dial out with my Commodore 64 :)
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk> wrote:
On 08/10/2013 13:35, Joe Ferraro wrote:
Yeah, that's the way to go. I'm tempted to buy an ancient Nokia GSM phone, get a data number for it and a serial adapter, and plug it into my DS300..9600 bps dial up access, woo hoo!
I kinda still enjoy dial up... are there any active modems on 'the net'? Sampsa, you and I tried this once, a long time back... not sure if we ever connected, but I didn't have POTS at the time...
You can try SLAVE which is connected via a dial up. Not tried it in a while but it should still work OK.
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On 2013-10-08 15:12, Tim Sneddon wrote:
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se
<mailto:bqt at softjar.se>> wrote:
On 2013-10-08 01:03, Sampsa Laine wrote:
What would be the correct security settings for a directory that:
- Allows anyone to add a file
- Anyone can read any file
- Nobody can delete, edit or replace existing files.
Thinking of setting this up on CHIMPY for people to store nifty
stuff they find.
I read through the discussion, but didn't see any attempt at an
analysis of this, so I'll try to make some comments here.
Huh? I provided commands and all to do what was asked.
*Analysis*
Johnny
Yeah, I'd hook up a terminal first, set ATS0=1 (autoanswer) and then store the defaults in the modem's NVRAM. That way the modem just raises the DCD line when a connection has been made.
As far as I know VMS doesn't really speak Hayes AT.
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
On 8 Oct 2013, at 15:10, Daniel Soderstrom <snaggs at mac.com> wrote:
I have a brand new US Robotics HST and Telebit Trailblazer I saved from the day. If I wack one on the serial point of a VAX can it take calls? :)
Sent from my iPhone
On 8 Oct 2013, at 8:35 pm, Joe Ferraro <jferraro at gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, that's the way to go. I'm tempted to buy an ancient Nokia GSM phone, get a data number for it and a serial adapter, and plug it into my DS300..9600 bps dial up access, woo hoo!
I kinda still enjoy dial up... are there any active modems on 'the net'? Sampsa, you and I tried this once, a long time back... not sure if we ever connected, but I didn't have POTS at the time...
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-10-08 01:03, Sampsa Laine wrote:
What would be the correct security settings for a directory that:
- Allows anyone to add a file
- Anyone can read any file
- Nobody can delete, edit or replace existing files.
Thinking of setting this up on CHIMPY for people to store nifty stuff they find.
I read through the discussion, but didn't see any attempt at an analysis of this, so I'll try to make some comments here.
Huh? I provided commands and all to do what was asked.
Regards, Tim.
I have a brand new US Robotics HST and Telebit Trailblazer I saved from the day. If I wack one on the serial point of a VAX can it take calls? :)
Sent from my iPhone
On 8 Oct 2013, at 8:35 pm, Joe Ferraro <jferraro at gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, that's the way to go. I'm tempted to buy an ancient Nokia GSM phone, get a data number for it and a serial adapter, and plug it into my DS300..9600 bps dial up access, woo hoo!
I kinda still enjoy dial up... are there any active modems on 'the net'? Sampsa, you and I tried this once, a long time back... not sure if we ever connected, but I didn't have POTS at the time...
On 2013-10-05 10:16, Daniel Soderstrom wrote:
I've having trouble setting up UCX and emailed a screenshot but nothing came through like it usually does.
There is a size limit of mails on hecnet, which probably prevented you. Send a link instead, and put the image somewhere else...
Johnny
