$ Copy sgc::nu2.com *.*
$ @nu2
Be careful that your SCSSYSTEMID and DECnet node number are the same or
it will be a mess. You have been warned!
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Sampsa Laine
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 4:04 PM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Nodelist errors from MIM::
Refresh my memory, how do I invoke that?
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
On 9 Oct 2013, at 22:02, Steve Davidson <jeep at scshome.net> wrote:
Sampsa,
As long as your SCSSYSTEMID and your DECnet node number are in sync
you
can use NetUpdate from SGC:: or SG
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Sampsa Laine
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 2:57 PM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: [HECnet] Nodelist errors from MIM::
When I tried to update my nodelist just now on CHIMPY, I got a few
errors in Area 9.
Any ideas?
--- SNIP ----
CHIMPY$ mcr ncp copy known node from mim to both
%NCP-W-INVPVA, Invalid parameter value , Address
%NCP-W-INVPVA, Invalid parameter value , Address
Remote node = 9.1 (GEWT)
%NCP-W-INVPVA, Invalid parameter value , Address
%NCP-W-INVPVA, Invalid parameter value , Address
Remote node = 9.2 (MANDY)
%NCP-W-INVPVA, Invalid parameter value , Address
%NCP-W-INVPVA, Invalid parameter value , Address
Remote node = 9.4 (MINDY)
Sampsa,
The current version can be found in the default DECnet account on SGC::
or SG1::. The file name is NU2.COM. You will get those errors with
this system - that is normal. It has to clear out old definitions
before inserting new ones.
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Sampsa Laine
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 2:57 PM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: [HECnet] Nodelist errors from MIM::
When I tried to update my nodelist just now on CHIMPY, I got a few
errors in Area 9.
Any ideas?
--- SNIP ----
CHIMPY$ mcr ncp copy known node from mim to both
%NCP-W-INVPVA, Invalid parameter value , Address
%NCP-W-INVPVA, Invalid parameter value , Address
Remote node = 9.1 (GEWT)
%NCP-W-INVPVA, Invalid parameter value , Address
%NCP-W-INVPVA, Invalid parameter value , Address
Remote node = 9.2 (MANDY)
%NCP-W-INVPVA, Invalid parameter value , Address
%NCP-W-INVPVA, Invalid parameter value , Address
Remote node = 9.4 (MINDY)
Refresh my memory, how do I invoke that?
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
On 9 Oct 2013, at 22:02, Steve Davidson <jeep at scshome.net> wrote:
Sampsa,
As long as your SCSSYSTEMID and your DECnet node number are in sync you
can use NetUpdate from SGC:: or SG
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Sampsa Laine
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 2:57 PM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: [HECnet] Nodelist errors from MIM::
When I tried to update my nodelist just now on CHIMPY, I got a few
errors in Area 9.
Any ideas?
--- SNIP ----
CHIMPY$ mcr ncp copy known node from mim to both
%NCP-W-INVPVA, Invalid parameter value , Address
%NCP-W-INVPVA, Invalid parameter value , Address
Remote node = 9.1 (GEWT)
%NCP-W-INVPVA, Invalid parameter value , Address
%NCP-W-INVPVA, Invalid parameter value , Address
Remote node = 9.2 (MANDY)
%NCP-W-INVPVA, Invalid parameter value , Address
%NCP-W-INVPVA, Invalid parameter value , Address
Remote node = 9.4 (MINDY)
Sampsa,
As long as your SCSSYSTEMID and your DECnet node number are in sync you
can use NetUpdate from SGC:: or SG
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Sampsa Laine
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 2:57 PM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: [HECnet] Nodelist errors from MIM::
When I tried to update my nodelist just now on CHIMPY, I got a few
errors in Area 9.
Any ideas?
--- SNIP ----
CHIMPY$ mcr ncp copy known node from mim to both
%NCP-W-INVPVA, Invalid parameter value , Address
%NCP-W-INVPVA, Invalid parameter value , Address
Remote node = 9.1 (GEWT)
%NCP-W-INVPVA, Invalid parameter value , Address
%NCP-W-INVPVA, Invalid parameter value , Address
Remote node = 9.2 (MANDY)
%NCP-W-INVPVA, Invalid parameter value , Address
%NCP-W-INVPVA, Invalid parameter value , Address
Remote node = 9.4 (MINDY)
When I tried to update my nodelist just now on CHIMPY, I got a few errors in Area 9.
Any ideas?
--- SNIP ----
CHIMPY$ mcr ncp copy known node from mim to both
%NCP-W-INVPVA, Invalid parameter value , Address
%NCP-W-INVPVA, Invalid parameter value , Address
Remote node = 9.1 (GEWT)
%NCP-W-INVPVA, Invalid parameter value , Address
%NCP-W-INVPVA, Invalid parameter value , Address
Remote node = 9.2 (MANDY)
%NCP-W-INVPVA, Invalid parameter value , Address
%NCP-W-INVPVA, Invalid parameter value , Address
Remote node = 9.4 (MINDY)
Hi Sampsa,
At http://rullf2.xs4all.nl/sg/sg.html
type
js> load('monkey.js')
js> display(s$)
It needs 'continue script' once or twice.
:)
Erik
On Tue, Oct 08, 2013 at 04:06:36PM +0200, Sampsa Laine wrote:
On 8 Oct 2013, at 16:03, Erik Olofsen <e.olofsen at xs4all.nl> wrote:
Hi all,
For those interested in Sixels, I ported the code (quick and dirty)
from ftp://ftp.cs.utk.edu/pub/shuford/terminal/all_about_sixels.txt
to Javascript and combined it with Flot and a JQuery terminal:
http://rullf2.xs4all.nl/sg/sg.html
You then get a Javascript terminal, with a display function; some examples:
js> example$
js> display(example$)
js> display(Array(5).join('CA at ACGOG'))
js> display('HECNET')
and
js> display(digital$)
Considering the run time to display the latter image, photos should
perhaps not be too detailed...
Cool - any change you could add my logo (B&W picture of angry monkey from Family Guy)?
That would totally make my day.
I un-broke DNS on my server so emails now send.
I apologize for the flurry of emails, Peter has three tunnel end points
and I forgot that my trigger operates on rows [0], so even though I did a
single UPDATE it called the trigger function 3 times.
I think Peter got 9 emails out of that, so don't feel as bad as him. :)
-brian
[0] - This is the only way I can get the changed data to pass along to
the python script.
Van: Mark Wickens
Verzonden: dinsdag 8 oktober 2013 14:37
Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] OpenVMS 6.1 Cluster - Alpha not booting to form cluster
On 08/10/2013 12:15, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
> Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk> writes:
>
>> On 08/10/2013 11:33, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
>>> Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk> writes:
>>>
>>>> Just wondered if anyone would know why my Alpha when booting hangs at
>>>> the point where it attempting to determine whether to join or form a VMS
>>>> cluster? It is clustered with a VAX - if I boot the VAX first the VAX
>>>> creates a cluster which the Alpha will then happily join when turned on,
>>>> but if I power the Alpha without the VAX it just hangs.
>>>>
>>>> Both are running an install straight from an original VMS 6.1
>>>> installation disk.
>>> Just 2 nodes?
>>>
>>> What's your quorum configuration?
>>>
>>> Post:
>>>
>>> $ MCR SYSGEN SHOW VOTES
>>> $ MCR SYSGEN SHOW EXPECTED_VOTES
>>>
>>> ..from each node.
>> I think you, sir, may have found the issue:
>>
>> On RIPLEY (the Alpha):
>>
>> $ mcr sysgen show votes
>> Parameter Name Current Default Min. Max. Unit Dynamic
>> -------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ----
>> -------
>> VOTES 1 1 0 127 Votes
>> $ mcr sysgen show expected votes
>> Parameter Name Current Default Min. Max. Unit Dynamic
>> -------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ----
>> -------
>> EXPECTED_VOTES 2 1 1 127 Votes
>>
>>
>> On DALLAS (the VAX):
>>
>> $ mcr sysgen show votes
>> Parameter Name Current Default Min. Max. Unit Dynamic
>> -------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ----
>> -------
>> VOTES 1 1 0 127 Votes
>> $ mcr sysgen show expected votes
>> Parameter Name Current Default Min. Max. Unit Dynamic
>> -------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ----
>> -------
>> EXPECTED_VOTES 1 1 1 127 Votes
>
> OK. First, 2 node clusters can be problematic due to not realy having the
> necessary number of node to properly form a cluster. The minimum is three
> nodes to form a cluster.
>
> However, let's look at what you said.
>
> You said that the VAX boots and forms a cluster. It has one vote and the
> expected votes is one. Therefore, when you boot it, it sees the necessary
> number of votes to continue booting and form a cluster.
>
> You also said that Alpha boots and hangs trying to form a cluster. It too
> has one vote but its expected votes is two. Therefore, until the VAX has
> booted, the number of votes is not present and the Alpha will hang.
>
> If you lower expected votes, the Alpha wil boot just like the VAX does. I
> would caution you read the VMS documentation regarding clusters and how to
> determine quorum. You risk, in the configuration of two nodes where each
> has one vote and expected votes of one, partitioning the cluster resulting
> in data corruption.
>
Thanks for the reminder of these issues. To be honest my experience with
clustering is limited and generally specific to satellite based
configurations. In this case I may make the VAX a satellite of the Alpha
with the local disk acting as page/swap.
Am I right in thinking then that the relationship changes somewhat in
that the Alpha will always need to be up but the VAX can come and go as
it pleases (with the correct shutdown sequence)?
Regards, Mark.
--
http://www.wickensonline.co.ukhttp://hecnet.euhttp://declegacy.org.ukhttp://retrochallenge.nethttps://twitter.com/#!/%40urbancamo
On 08/10/2013 18:33, Ryan Blair wrote:
Does someone have a copy of the distribution kit for VAX APL
on HECnet that I can grab? I'm not seeing it in my condist/SPL sets,
which are probably too new. It looks like the last kit it went out
in was June of 1995 (directory [APL040]).
Better yet would just be images of those older SPLs ...
Thanks,
-Ryan
Ryan,
It's all on SLAVE... look here for example:
http://hecnet.eu/archive/VAX_MEDIA/CDBIN10NOV2/CDBIN04MAR21/APL040/*.*;*
Directory SLAVE::ARCHIVE$:[MEDIA.VAX_MEDIA.CDBIN10NOV2.CDBIN04MAR21.APL040]
KIT.DIR;1 LINE_DOCS.DIR;1 POST_DOCS.DIR;1
Not sure what's happening with the directory structure, looks like I've got the directories in a muddle.
--
http://www.wickensonline.co.ukhttp://hecnet.euhttp://declegacy.org.ukhttp://retrochallenge.nethttps://twitter.com/#!/%40urbancamo
Does someone have a copy of the distribution kit for VAX APL
on HECnet that I can grab? I'm not seeing it in my condist/SPL sets,
which are probably too new. It looks like the last kit it went out
in was June of 1995 (directory [APL040]).
Better yet would just be images of those older SPLs ...
Thanks,
-Ryan