Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> writes:
On Oct 16, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> =
wrote:
Hello!
And what were they discussing? Hopefully something important.
Remember, at the moment HP has no idea exactly what VMS is and what it
originally ran on, then what it took over, and its final platform.
Did the email not make it to the list? Probably because it's an email =
thread with, for some unknown reason, the same email thread as a PDF =
attachment. If the email didnt make it to the list, let me know. (It =
may have got filtered because of the attachment that I didn't see at the =
time)
I didn't see it.
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On Oct 16, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote:
Hello!
And what were they discussing? Hopefully something important.
Remember, at the moment HP has no idea exactly what VMS is and what it
originally ran on, then what it took over, and its final platform.
Did the email not make it to the list? Probably because it's an email thread with, for some unknown reason, the same email thread as a PDF attachment. If the email didnt make it to the list, let me know. (It may have got filtered because of the attachment that I didn't see at the time)
Ian
On Wed, 16 Oct 2013, Ian McLaughlin wrote:
Haha. After posting that email, I realized that they accidentally forwarded an entire conversation between two HP staffers discussing the email.
I was a bit confused by the email when I got it, too.
PR fail.
Ian
On Oct 16, 2013, at 2:58 PM, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> wrote:
Hello All,
I just received the below email from HP. Did anyone else get it? It's quite interesting, but I'm also trying to figure out exactly where and when I told HP I was a VMS fan. I don't recall ever getting anything from HP in the past because of my hobbyist license registration. Wondering what others think about this - both from the 'HP reaching out' aspect as well as the aspect of promoting a port-it-to-VMS project.
Ian
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Hello!
And what were they discussing? Hopefully something important.
Remember, at the moment HP has no idea exactly what VMS is and what it
originally ran on, then what it took over, and its final platform.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> wrote:
Haha. After posting that email, I realized that they accidentally forwarded an entire conversation between two HP staffers discussing the email.
PR fail.
Ian
On Oct 16, 2013, at 2:58 PM, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> wrote:
Hello All,
I just received the below email from HP. Did anyone else get it? It's quite interesting, but I'm also trying to figure out exactly where and when I told HP I was a VMS fan. I don't recall ever getting anything from HP in the past because of my hobbyist license registration. Wondering what others think about this - both from the 'HP reaching out' aspect as well as the aspect of promoting a port-it-to-VMS project.
Ian
Haha. After posting that email, I realized that they accidentally forwarded an entire conversation between two HP staffers discussing the email.
PR fail.
Ian
On Oct 16, 2013, at 2:58 PM, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> wrote:
Hello All,
I just received the below email from HP. Did anyone else get it? It's quite interesting, but I'm also trying to figure out exactly where and when I told HP I was a VMS fan. I don't recall ever getting anything from HP in the past because of my hobbyist license registration. Wondering what others think about this - both from the 'HP reaching out' aspect as well as the aspect of promoting a port-it-to-VMS project.
Ian
On 16 Oct 2013, at 19:31, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-10-16 18:00, Sampsa Laine wrote:
On 16 Oct 2013, at 17:18, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-10-16 11:57, Mark Wickens wrote:
I am also taking a solaris box im presuming thatthe bridge would compile
Ok on that?
I have no reason to suspect it shouldn't work. But only testing will tell. And the same here - you might need to tweak a thing or two in the source.
Johnny
This got me thinking, could just customize a Raspian distro to run the bridge.
Download the image, put it on a SD card and boot. Change network settings and
enter uplink details in bridge.conf. bridge runs automatically in a screen
launched by init (respawned if killed, of course).
Instant HECnet-in-a-box :)
Yes, apart that there is absolutely no reason to involve screen here. Kick the bridge from init.
I like being able to watch the debug output in screen, but that's just me.
Sampsa
Well, I managed to get the bridge compiled up on Solaris with some minor makefile and include and library tweaks having compiled up the latest libpcap. I am using the opencsw archive for general unix software.
If I run the bridge with debug on I get the following output:
./bridge 4711
Config filename: bridge.conf
Adding router ''local''. 0001187c:-4206648
Adding router ''update''. 82ee1319:4711
Adding DECnet bridge local.
Trying to match local
Matching against: local
Found match: local == local
Adding DECnet bridge update.
Trying to match update
Matching against: local
Matching against: update
Found match: update == update
Adding LAT bridge local.
Trying to match local
Matching against: local
Found match: local == local
Adding LAT bridge update.
Trying to match update
Matching against: local
Matching against: update
Found match: update == update
Host table:
0: local 0.0.0.0:0 (Rx: 0 Tx: 0 (Drop rx: 0)) Active: 1 Throttle: 0(000)
1: update 130.238.19.25:4711 (Rx: 0 Tx: 0 (Drop rx: 0)) Active: 1 Throttle: 0(000)
Hash of known destinations:
Adding new hash entry. Port is 1
Adding new hash entry. Port is 1
Adding new hash entry. Port is 1
Adding new hash entry. Port is 1
Adding new hash entry. Port is 1
Adding new hash entry. Port is 1
Setting existing hash to bridge 1
Setting existing hash to bridge 1
Setting existing hash to bridge 1
Setting existing hash to bridge 1
Adding new hash entry. Port is 1
Setting existing hash to bridge 1
Setting existing hash to bridge 1
Adding new hash entry. Port is 1
Adding new hash entry. Port is 1
Which looks encouraging, but when I try and use DECNET on SLAVE I get the following:
[MSW]SLAVE$ dir mim::
%DIRECT-E-OPENIN, error opening MIM::*.*;* as input
-RMS-F-SYS, QIO system service request failed
-SYSTEM-F-PATHLOST, path to network partner node lost
Any ideas what might be going wrong? I've updated my NAT to point to the Ultra 5 for port 4711.
Regards, Mark.
Hehe!
I didn't even mean to send that, not sure how it leaked out.
Not autocorrect, that is me dictating a message. It works quite well except for punctuation. Not worked that one out yet full stop you know what I mean?
;)
I bet emoticons are tricky as well
I fully appreciate that not using a keyboard means I am an enigma amongst my peers... :D
On 16/10/2013 17:27, Michael Young wrote:
Autocorrect? :)
On Oct 16, 2013, at 12:08 PM, Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk> wrote:
good point samsung I'd forgotten that I had the bridge running on my raspberry pi so at least if nothing else I could sack in the laptop and take the pi instead however I'm going to see if I can't get it running on the sun. If that's the case we maybe want to make a list of the operating systems and versions for which the bridge has been successfully compiled.
Sent from Samsung Mobile
-------- Original message --------
From: Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com>
Date: 10/16/2013 5:00 PM (GMT+00:00)
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] HECnet bridge on tru64
On 16 Oct 2013, at 17:18, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
> On 2013-10-16 11:57, Mark Wickens wrote:
>> I am also taking a solaris box im presuming thatthe bridge would compile
>> Ok on that?
>
> I have no reason to suspect it shouldn't work. But only testing will tell. And the same here - you might need to tweak a thing or two in the source.
>
> Johnny
This got me thinking, could just customize a Raspian distro to run the bridge.
Download the image, put it on a SD card and boot. Change network settings and
enter uplink details in bridge.conf. bridge runs automatically in a screen
launched by init (respawned if killed, of course).
Instant HECnet-in-a-box :)
Michael Young
young at ecn.purdue.edu
--
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On 16 Oct 2013, at 17:00, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
This got me thinking, could just customize a Raspian distro to run the bridge.
Download the image, put it on a SD card and boot. Change network settings and
enter uplink details in bridge.conf. bridge runs automatically in a screen
launched by init (respawned if killed, of course).
Instant HECnet-in-a-box :)
That'd be neat. STAR69 runs on a Pi with Raspbian and bridge running out to HECnet so it's totally doable. If you could trim the distro down a bit (well, a lot actually) and make bridge run as a service it'd be neat. If you could get SimH to run as a service with a disconnectable terminal and optional between PDP-11 and VAX that'd be even neater.
Maybe I went a little OTT on that one a SD card for bridge on a cut-down Pi linux would be a cool start though :)
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http://DECtec.info
Twitter: @DECtecInfo
HECnet: STAR69::MARK
Online Resource & Mailing List for DEC Enthusiasts.
On 2013-10-16 18:00, Sampsa Laine wrote:
On 16 Oct 2013, at 17:18, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-10-16 11:57, Mark Wickens wrote:
I am also taking a solaris box im presuming thatthe bridge would compile
Ok on that?
I have no reason to suspect it shouldn't work. But only testing will tell. And the same here - you might need to tweak a thing or two in the source.
Johnny
This got me thinking, could just customize a Raspian distro to run the bridge.
Download the image, put it on a SD card and boot. Change network settings and
enter uplink details in bridge.conf. bridge runs automatically in a screen
launched by init (respawned if killed, of course).
Instant HECnet-in-a-box :)
Yes, apart that there is absolutely no reason to involve screen here. Kick the bridge from init.
Johnny