On Tue, 19 Nov 2013, Mark Wickens wrote:
Hi Cory
I've seen this behaviour from various VAXen including later 4000 models. I now
have everything connected to a DECserver 90M with reverse-LAT so, from the
computers point of view, there is always a console cable connected.
I don't have a spare terminal server to toss at it so I'm trying to think
of my options. I suppose I could just flip the "disable break" switch."
I suspect what is happening is that the computer is treating the cable
disconnect as a 'break' which then will drop it to the console prompt.
That makes sense. I can test that tomorrow by flipping the "break enable"
switch. Don't feel like heading downstairs to boot the MVII right now.
I do want to eventually swap the KA630 for a KA650/KA655/KA660 though.
Regards, Mark.
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
On 19/11/2013 05:46, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Hello,
Is it normal for a MicroVAX II to drop out of a cluster and then reboot
when the console is disconnected?
I am using a USB<--->serial adapter...when I unplug it from USB the
machine reboots itself and leaves the cluster. (This wouldn't be too bad
if the battery that stores its settings hadn't died over a decade ago)
Anyone else have this problem?
Hi Cory
I've seen this behaviour from various VAXen including later 4000 models. I now have everything connected to a DECserver 90M with reverse-LAT so, from the computers point of view, there is always a console cable connected.
I suspect what is happening is that the computer is treating the cable disconnect as a 'break' which then will drop it to the console prompt.
Regards, Mark.
Hello,
Is it normal for a MicroVAX II to drop out of a cluster and then reboot
when the console is disconnected?
I am using a USB<--->serial adapter...when I unplug it from USB the
machine reboots itself and leaves the cluster. (This wouldn't be too bad
if the battery that stores its settings hadn't died over a decade ago)
Anyone else have this problem?
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
Would anybody have a VAXBI transition header that they could spare? I need a second one to install a KDB50 in my 8350. This is the little plastic connector that screws onto the BI backplane and allows ribbon cables to be connected.
The KDB50 actually needs two transition headers (it has two boards). One has the SDI cables attached that one I actually have, believe it or not, but then there s also a second header needed for the second board. This second one just has four headers that connect to four tiny ribbon cables that connect to the header for the first board.
I d guess that this second header is the same as the ones used on the DMB32 and other BI options, but I can t say for sure.
If anybody can spare one, the 8350 will love you forever J
Thanks,
Bob Armstrong
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013, G. wrote:
%SYSBOOT-E-Unable to locate file PKCDRIVER.EXE
For some (strange) reason your MicroVAX ROM decided not to output the above
two messages but to consider every byte as an error message number, and to
output the corresponding error message identification.
Could be that the install was done on a MicroVAX 3100 and I tried to boot
it in a VAXstation 4000/60.
If cleaning the memory boards works, I can tell you for sure in a day or
two...gotta wait for them to appropriately dry.
(They were toast anyway...battery seems to have corroded them somehow to
get them stuck in a loop.)
Maybe that disk is not a bootable one and/or contains a corrupted volume which
has fouled some MicroVAX ROM routine. So it's very likely that those two error
messages are not relevant or correct, and most of all they cannot be trusted.
I figured as much. There is a dka700:[sys0] on the disk.
HTH,
G.
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013, Steve Davidson wrote:
Boot a known good VMS disk.
Show device dk and see what comes back.
If that succeeds, then try a mount/over=id of this disk.
If that succeeds, then analyze/disk/read.
If that succeeds, then analyze/disk/read/repair.
Mounting it succeeded. It seems it was just a user data disk.
Unfortunately, what I assume to be the OS drive from the 3100 has failed.
:(
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Cory Smelosky
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 22:11
To: hecnet at update.uu.se
Subject: [HECnet] Weird boot error
Evening all,
I picked up an old MicroVAX 3100 with soem an RZ24 and soem
RZ23s...I am currently trying to see what is on them. I
tried to boot from one and got
this:
b dka700
-DKA700
?0D NO MSG
?0A CHM FR ISTK
?25 LTL
?53 NO MSG
?59 NO MSG
?53 NO MSG
?42 NOSUCHFILE
?4F SCBINT
?4F SCBINT
?54 RETRY
?2D AMB SYM
?57 DEVCMDERR
?2D AMB SYM
?53 NO MSG
?79 NO MSG
?73 NO MSG
?74 NO MSG
?65 NO MSG
?6D NO MSG
?20 TOY ERR
?52 NOSUCHNODE
?4F SCBINT
?4D DEVOFFLINE
?20 TOY ERR
?76 NO MSG
?65 NO MSG
?72 NO MSG
?73 NO MSG
?69 NO MSG
?6F NO MSG
?6E NO MSG
?20 TOY ERR
?6C NO MSG
?65 NO MSG
?73 NO MSG
?73 NO MSG
?20 TOY ERR
?74 NO MSG
?68 NO MSG
?61 NO MSG
?6E NO MSG
?20 TOY ERR
?6D NO MSG
?69 NO MSG
?6E NO MSG
?69 NO MSG
?6D NO MSG
?75 NO MSG
?6D NO MSG
?20 TOY ERR
?72 NO MSG
?65 NO MSG
?71 NO MSG
?75 NO MSG
?69 NO MSG
?72 NO MSG
?65 NO MSG
?64 NO MSG
?20 TOY ERR
?66 NO MSG
?6F NO MSG
?72 NO MSG
?20 TOY ERR
?56 DUPIDENT
?4D DEVOFFLINE
?53 NO MSG
?0D NO MSG
?0A CHM FR ISTK
?25 LTL
?53 NO MSG
?59 NO MSG
?53 NO MSG
?42 NOSUCHFILE
?4F SCBINT
?4F SCBINT
?54 RETRY
?2D AMB SYM
?45 BADFILEHDR
?2D AMB SYM
?55 NOWRT
?6E NO MSG
?61 NO MSG
?62 NO MSG
?6C NO MSG
?65 NO MSG
?20 TOY ERR
?74 NO MSG
?6F NO MSG
?20 TOY ERR
?6C NO MSG
?6F NO MSG
?63 NO MSG
?61 NO MSG
?74 NO MSG
?65 NO MSG
?20 TOY ERR
?66 NO MSG
?69 NO MSG
?6C NO MSG
?65 NO MSG
?20 TOY ERR
?50 SCB2NDINT
?4B CTRLERR
?43 FILESTRUCT
?44 BADCHKSUM
?52 NOSUCHNODE
?49 BADFILENAME
?56 DUPIDENT
?45 BADFILEHDR
?52 NOSUCHNODE
?2E CHKSM
?45 BADFILEHDR
?58 ILLIOFUNC
?45 BADFILEHDR
I don't know whether or not to assume it's a corrupted
FIELS-11 volume, one without system files, or a bad disk.
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
On Mon, 18 Nov 2013 22:10:32 -0500, Cory Smelosky wrote:
I picked up an old MicroVAX 3100 with soem an RZ24 and soem RZ23s...I am
currently trying to see what is on them. I tried to boot from one and got
this:
b dka700
-DKA700
?0D NO MSG
?0A CHM FR ISTK
?25 LTL
?53 NO MSG
?59 NO MSG
?53 NO MSG
[...]
?45 BADFILEHDR
?58 ILLIOFUNC
?45 BADFILEHDR
I don't know whether or not to assume it's a corrupted FIELS-11 volume,
one without system files, or a bad disk.
If you translate into ASCII characters the hexadecimal values at the beginning
of every error message you've received, you get the following:
%SYSBOOT-W-System ROM version less than minimum required for VMS
%SYSBOOT-E-Unable to locate file PKCDRIVER.EXE
For some (strange) reason your MicroVAX ROM decided not to output the above
two messages but to consider every byte as an error message number, and to
output the corresponding error message identification.
Maybe that disk is not a bootable one and/or contains a corrupted volume which
has fouled some MicroVAX ROM routine. So it's very likely that those two error
messages are not relevant or correct, and most of all they cannot be trusted.
HTH,
G.
Boot a known good VMS disk.
Show device dk and see what comes back.
If that succeeds, then try a mount/over=id of this disk.
If that succeeds, then analyze/disk/read.
If that succeeds, then analyze/disk/read/repair.
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Cory Smelosky
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 22:11
To: hecnet at update.uu.se
Subject: [HECnet] Weird boot error
Evening all,
I picked up an old MicroVAX 3100 with soem an RZ24 and soem
RZ23s...I am currently trying to see what is on them. I
tried to boot from one and got
this:
b dka700
-DKA700
?0D NO MSG
?0A CHM FR ISTK
?25 LTL
?53 NO MSG
?59 NO MSG
?53 NO MSG
?42 NOSUCHFILE
?4F SCBINT
?4F SCBINT
?54 RETRY
?2D AMB SYM
?57 DEVCMDERR
?2D AMB SYM
?53 NO MSG
?79 NO MSG
?73 NO MSG
?74 NO MSG
?65 NO MSG
?6D NO MSG
?20 TOY ERR
?52 NOSUCHNODE
?4F SCBINT
?4D DEVOFFLINE
?20 TOY ERR
?76 NO MSG
?65 NO MSG
?72 NO MSG
?73 NO MSG
?69 NO MSG
?6F NO MSG
?6E NO MSG
?20 TOY ERR
?6C NO MSG
?65 NO MSG
?73 NO MSG
?73 NO MSG
?20 TOY ERR
?74 NO MSG
?68 NO MSG
?61 NO MSG
?6E NO MSG
?20 TOY ERR
?6D NO MSG
?69 NO MSG
?6E NO MSG
?69 NO MSG
?6D NO MSG
?75 NO MSG
?6D NO MSG
?20 TOY ERR
?72 NO MSG
?65 NO MSG
?71 NO MSG
?75 NO MSG
?69 NO MSG
?72 NO MSG
?65 NO MSG
?64 NO MSG
?20 TOY ERR
?66 NO MSG
?6F NO MSG
?72 NO MSG
?20 TOY ERR
?56 DUPIDENT
?4D DEVOFFLINE
?53 NO MSG
?0D NO MSG
?0A CHM FR ISTK
?25 LTL
?53 NO MSG
?59 NO MSG
?53 NO MSG
?42 NOSUCHFILE
?4F SCBINT
?4F SCBINT
?54 RETRY
?2D AMB SYM
?45 BADFILEHDR
?2D AMB SYM
?55 NOWRT
?6E NO MSG
?61 NO MSG
?62 NO MSG
?6C NO MSG
?65 NO MSG
?20 TOY ERR
?74 NO MSG
?6F NO MSG
?20 TOY ERR
?6C NO MSG
?6F NO MSG
?63 NO MSG
?61 NO MSG
?74 NO MSG
?65 NO MSG
?20 TOY ERR
?66 NO MSG
?69 NO MSG
?6C NO MSG
?65 NO MSG
?20 TOY ERR
?50 SCB2NDINT
?4B CTRLERR
?43 FILESTRUCT
?44 BADCHKSUM
?52 NOSUCHNODE
?49 BADFILENAME
?56 DUPIDENT
?45 BADFILEHDR
?52 NOSUCHNODE
?2E CHKSM
?45 BADFILEHDR
?58 ILLIOFUNC
?45 BADFILEHDR
I don't know whether or not to assume it's a corrupted
FIELS-11 volume, one without system files, or a bad disk.
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
Evening all,
I picked up an old MicroVAX 3100 with soem an RZ24 and soem RZ23s...I am currently trying to see what is on them. I tried to boot from one and got this:
b dka700
-DKA700
?0D NO MSG
?0A CHM FR ISTK
?25 LTL
?53 NO MSG
?59 NO MSG
?53 NO MSG
?42 NOSUCHFILE
?4F SCBINT
?4F SCBINT
?54 RETRY
?2D AMB SYM
?57 DEVCMDERR
?2D AMB SYM
?53 NO MSG
?79 NO MSG
?73 NO MSG
?74 NO MSG
?65 NO MSG
?6D NO MSG
?20 TOY ERR
?52 NOSUCHNODE
?4F SCBINT
?4D DEVOFFLINE
?20 TOY ERR
?76 NO MSG
?65 NO MSG
?72 NO MSG
?73 NO MSG
?69 NO MSG
?6F NO MSG
?6E NO MSG
?20 TOY ERR
?6C NO MSG
?65 NO MSG
?73 NO MSG
?73 NO MSG
?20 TOY ERR
?74 NO MSG
?68 NO MSG
?61 NO MSG
?6E NO MSG
?20 TOY ERR
?6D NO MSG
?69 NO MSG
?6E NO MSG
?69 NO MSG
?6D NO MSG
?75 NO MSG
?6D NO MSG
?20 TOY ERR
?72 NO MSG
?65 NO MSG
?71 NO MSG
?75 NO MSG
?69 NO MSG
?72 NO MSG
?65 NO MSG
?64 NO MSG
?20 TOY ERR
?66 NO MSG
?6F NO MSG
?72 NO MSG
?20 TOY ERR
?56 DUPIDENT
?4D DEVOFFLINE
?53 NO MSG
?0D NO MSG
?0A CHM FR ISTK
?25 LTL
?53 NO MSG
?59 NO MSG
?53 NO MSG
?42 NOSUCHFILE
?4F SCBINT
?4F SCBINT
?54 RETRY
?2D AMB SYM
?45 BADFILEHDR
?2D AMB SYM
?55 NOWRT
?6E NO MSG
?61 NO MSG
?62 NO MSG
?6C NO MSG
?65 NO MSG
?20 TOY ERR
?74 NO MSG
?6F NO MSG
?20 TOY ERR
?6C NO MSG
?6F NO MSG
?63 NO MSG
?61 NO MSG
?74 NO MSG
?65 NO MSG
?20 TOY ERR
?66 NO MSG
?69 NO MSG
?6C NO MSG
?65 NO MSG
?20 TOY ERR
?50 SCB2NDINT
?4B CTRLERR
?43 FILESTRUCT
?44 BADCHKSUM
?52 NOSUCHNODE
?49 BADFILENAME
?56 DUPIDENT
?45 BADFILEHDR
?52 NOSUCHNODE
?2E CHKSM
?45 BADFILEHDR
?58 ILLIOFUNC
?45 BADFILEHDR
I don't know whether or not to assume it's a corrupted FIELS-11 volume, one without system files, or a bad disk.
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Johnny Billquist
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 19:51
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Node data update
On 2013-11-18 21:17, Sampsa Laine wrote:
On 18 Nov 2013, at 00:16, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-11-18 01:13, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2013-11-17 23:43, Steve Davidson wrote:
Go for it!
In the end though, I would like to see a distribution
list so that
others may take advantage of this.
No problemo. I have a distribution list on MIM for it now.
MIM::US:[BQT]NOTIFY.DIS
Mail uses LEGATO:: as a gateway, so it will not work if
LEGATO is down.
I should clarify that it means mail to destination outside
of HECnet uses LEGATO. Mail to recipients inside HECnet
requires that those specific machines are online (obviously).
Would the CHIMPY::smtp%"foo at bar.com" format work? I use
that for some distribution lists on say HILANT..
Sure. Any address works equally well, actually. As long as
it's a form of address I can use from MIM. It's just that
LEGATO was in my head as a gateway I had used in the past
which worked for delivering mail to the internet.
Then have both LEGATO and CHIMPY as relays, I doubt we'd be
sending out THAT much mail that getting two copies would
bother the recipient too badly..
Up to whomever wants to to tell me what address they want me
to send to.
Of course, I will eventually move to my own SMTP client on
MIM (once I've written it).
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
The whole point of this exercise was to allow the individual systems to
update (in an automated fashion) their node database when Johnny
publishes an update. The automation requires that only one such notice
per event be sent (from Johnny's proedure) directly to the HECnet
system. That is a system with a DECnet node name/address like SGC::.
In this case the only account that has the priv is SGC::SYSTEM. My
system(s) will run DELIVER and just deal with this operation behind the
scenes. I will not have to step in at any time so I can just forget
about it. DELIVER will parse it, and direct it, such that a process
will kick off that will execute NetUpdateV2.COM. Initially it will be
only SGC:: (SYSTEM). I will add others directly because I will give the
address to Johnny, or I will have SGC:: (SYSTEM) forward it to the other
systems within my network, or some of both. The RSX and RSTS systems
will actually execute IND files. I have not yet figured out how the
ULTRIX systems will handle it. Let's get VMS systems to work first -
then deal with the others.
-Steve
-Steve
