Ok thanks! I've added the Gnuplot test output to
http://rullf2.xs4all.nl/sg/doc.html
It is fun using Gnuplot in XTerm with the Sixel driver!
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 09:50:30PM +0000, Sampsa Laine wrote:
No idea where those images have gone, I think that shot below was just the SIXEL monkey..
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
On 19 Nov 2013, at 21:34, Erik Olofsen <e.olofsen at xs4all.nl> wrote:
Hi Sampsa,
In the meantime I wrote a Sixel terminal driver for gnuplot,
because I couldn't find out if one of the available drivers
was capable of Sixels.
When I Googled for Gnuplot and Sixel the first hit is yours on
uuhec.net:
http://www.uuhec.net/2010/07/16/playing-with-regis-graphics/
Under the first image with ReGIS you mention Sixel but there
is no image. Did you create a Sixel image with Gnuplot?
Erik
On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 at 02:19:32PM +0200, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Yeah I'll fire up Xnest in a week or so when I have the bandwidth :)
Will send you PDFs of the laid out article.
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
On 3 Nov 2013, at 12:36, Erik Olofsen <e.olofsen at xs4all.nl> wrote:
Hi Sampsa,
I made some corrections and I think it is ready, unless you have
further suggestions for improvement. You can edit it as you like
and add further screenshots (I don't think I have dtterm). Perhaps
this depends on Mark Wickens' contribution. Is it something to put
in http://retrotron.sampsa.com/magazine/ ? Or I can have a link to
this material on my own web server?
Files are attached.
Erik
On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 07:21:55PM +0200, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Cool, that's like 2-3 pages of material.
I could throw in a screenshot of DTTERM as well, and say this is how it looks on a real DEC VMS box..:)
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
On 2 Nov 2013, at 18:51, Erik Olofsen <e.olofsen at xs4all.nl> wrote:
Hi Sampsa,
This is a first draft, where I have a reference to Mark's contribution.
http://rullf2.xs4all.nl/sg/doc.html
Mark: would you perhaps like to be co-author?
Erik
On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 04:41:34PM +0200, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Yeah go for it. The more the better.
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
On 1 Nov 2013, at 13:44, Erik Olofsen <e.olofsen at xs4all.nl> wrote:
Hi Sampsa,
In case you think it is interesting, I can write something about my
Sixel image viewer.
See also below for something that may be fun for the Retrotron.
(The implementation and the game rules are at alpha stage.)
Erik
---
It is hard to imagine, but perhaps even Captain Kirk sometimes played
a Sudoku before boldly going where no man has gone before:
http://rullf2.xs4all.nl/sst/sudoku.html
There are nine entities in the Sudoku chart, but a Starfleet ship
may be a Galileo, Faerie Queene, or an Enterprise; a Klingon may
be an ordinary one, a Commmander or a Super Commander. (This depends
on a Greek-Latin square).
The Sudoku is played backwards, because the Federation is under attack.
Entities are removed at random if they take up a unique position.
In a fight, the strength matters, but if you take up a unique position,
you are trapped and may be destroyed.
It was good that Kirk practiced in a game first, because in the first
battle he lets the Galileo fight with a Klingon Super Commander.
Next there are some easy battles; in the one but last battle, a
Romulan ship disappeared from Quadrant 1 - 2, Sector 3 - 1.
Captain Kirk did not notice this in the next battle at Quadrant 1 - 2.
The Enterprise has nowhere to go, but the Commander can move to Sector
3 - 1, and Kirk loses another ship...
He then decides he might be better at real missions :)
---
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 10:39:56PM +0200, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Mark,
Sorry, no DECwrite, I won't even deal with docx :)
ASCII txt and RTF with basic formatting only, and if you want pictures / diagrams, mark the spot where you'd like it wrt to the text with [* ... *], for example:
--- SNIP ---
This is my newest MLP, Candlestick, still in it's box: [** candle.jpg **] I prefer to keep my MLPs boxed since I don't feel I am ready for the type of relationship touching would entail.
--- SNIP ---
(No offence to bronies out there intended, just had to make something up the spot.)
Then just send me a ZIP of text and all the images.
If you have an editor that can create RTFD, you can dispense with the [* ... *] notation as the doc will have the pics in the right place (remember that RTFDs are bundles and need to be zipped).
The magazine is laid out in columns like a "proper" magazine (easier to read) but it's hard to promise EXACTLY where a picture will go in your submission. We'll run the submission by you before going live of course, and correct it as much as possible
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
On 30 Oct 2013, at 22:28, Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk> wrote:
On 30/10/2013 20:26, Sampsa Laine wrote:
This version specifically, at the start of the DEChead/HECnet etc section of the magazine:
http://www.sampsa.com/DECMonkey.jpg
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
On 30 Oct 2013, at 22:12, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
This is going in the exit retrotron magazine.
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
On 30 Oct 2013, at 17:53, Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk> wrote:
https://db.tt/G5b8sbRX
Sent from Samsung Mobile
Cool. I may get round to writing you something at some point.
Do you accept DECwrite files? ;)
Mark.
--
http://www.wickensonline.co.ukhttp://hecnet.euhttp://declegacy.org.ukhttp://retrochallenge.nethttps://twitter.com/#!/%40urbancamo
<sixel.zip>
Hi Sampsa,
In the meantime I wrote a Sixel terminal driver for gnuplot,
because I couldn't find out if one of the available drivers
was capable of Sixels.
When I Googled for Gnuplot and Sixel the first hit is yours on
uuhec.net:
http://www.uuhec.net/2010/07/16/playing-with-regis-graphics/
Under the first image with ReGIS you mention Sixel but there
is no image. Did you create a Sixel image with Gnuplot?
Erik
On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 at 02:19:32PM +0200, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Yeah I'll fire up Xnest in a week or so when I have the bandwidth :)
Will send you PDFs of the laid out article.
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
On 3 Nov 2013, at 12:36, Erik Olofsen <e.olofsen at xs4all.nl> wrote:
Hi Sampsa,
I made some corrections and I think it is ready, unless you have
further suggestions for improvement. You can edit it as you like
and add further screenshots (I don't think I have dtterm). Perhaps
this depends on Mark Wickens' contribution. Is it something to put
in http://retrotron.sampsa.com/magazine/ ? Or I can have a link to
this material on my own web server?
Files are attached.
Erik
On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 07:21:55PM +0200, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Cool, that's like 2-3 pages of material.
I could throw in a screenshot of DTTERM as well, and say this is how it looks on a real DEC VMS box..:)
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
On 2 Nov 2013, at 18:51, Erik Olofsen <e.olofsen at xs4all.nl> wrote:
Hi Sampsa,
This is a first draft, where I have a reference to Mark's contribution.
http://rullf2.xs4all.nl/sg/doc.html
Mark: would you perhaps like to be co-author?
Erik
On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 04:41:34PM +0200, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Yeah go for it. The more the better.
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
On 1 Nov 2013, at 13:44, Erik Olofsen <e.olofsen at xs4all.nl> wrote:
Hi Sampsa,
In case you think it is interesting, I can write something about my
Sixel image viewer.
See also below for something that may be fun for the Retrotron.
(The implementation and the game rules are at alpha stage.)
Erik
---
It is hard to imagine, but perhaps even Captain Kirk sometimes played
a Sudoku before boldly going where no man has gone before:
http://rullf2.xs4all.nl/sst/sudoku.html
There are nine entities in the Sudoku chart, but a Starfleet ship
may be a Galileo, Faerie Queene, or an Enterprise; a Klingon may
be an ordinary one, a Commmander or a Super Commander. (This depends
on a Greek-Latin square).
The Sudoku is played backwards, because the Federation is under attack.
Entities are removed at random if they take up a unique position.
In a fight, the strength matters, but if you take up a unique position,
you are trapped and may be destroyed.
It was good that Kirk practiced in a game first, because in the first
battle he lets the Galileo fight with a Klingon Super Commander.
Next there are some easy battles; in the one but last battle, a
Romulan ship disappeared from Quadrant 1 - 2, Sector 3 - 1.
Captain Kirk did not notice this in the next battle at Quadrant 1 - 2.
The Enterprise has nowhere to go, but the Commander can move to Sector
3 - 1, and Kirk loses another ship...
He then decides he might be better at real missions :)
---
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 10:39:56PM +0200, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Mark,
Sorry, no DECwrite, I won't even deal with docx :)
ASCII txt and RTF with basic formatting only, and if you want pictures / diagrams, mark the spot where you'd like it wrt to the text with [* ... *], for example:
--- SNIP ---
This is my newest MLP, Candlestick, still in it's box: [** candle.jpg **] I prefer to keep my MLPs boxed since I don't feel I am ready for the type of relationship touching would entail.
--- SNIP ---
(No offence to bronies out there intended, just had to make something up the spot.)
Then just send me a ZIP of text and all the images.
If you have an editor that can create RTFD, you can dispense with the [* ... *] notation as the doc will have the pics in the right place (remember that RTFDs are bundles and need to be zipped).
The magazine is laid out in columns like a "proper" magazine (easier to read) but it's hard to promise EXACTLY where a picture will go in your submission. We'll run the submission by you before going live of course, and correct it as much as possible
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
On 30 Oct 2013, at 22:28, Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk> wrote:
On 30/10/2013 20:26, Sampsa Laine wrote:
This version specifically, at the start of the DEChead/HECnet etc section of the magazine:
http://www.sampsa.com/DECMonkey.jpg
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
On 30 Oct 2013, at 22:12, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
This is going in the exit retrotron magazine.
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
On 30 Oct 2013, at 17:53, Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk> wrote:
https://db.tt/G5b8sbRX
Sent from Samsung Mobile
Cool. I may get round to writing you something at some point.
Do you accept DECwrite files? ;)
Mark.
--
http://www.wickensonline.co.ukhttp://hecnet.euhttp://declegacy.org.ukhttp://retrochallenge.nethttps://twitter.com/#!/%40urbancamo
<sixel.zip>
Hello!
Note that README. A while ago one of the lists I subscribe to had that
name idea show up. It seems one of the subscribers dutifully sent that
idea to the list. Naturally the list server believed it and used it.
However the back end figured out who he was and made sure that his
e-mail was probably sent out.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
yOn Tue, 19 Nov 2013, Gregg Levine wrote:
Hello!
Actually both of us were.
You both might be interested in
ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/unix/networking/bitnet/ then.
And yes, there are (or were) a few IBM operating systems who spoke NJE.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
Sampsa,
You were interested in HECnet<----->BITNET stuff, right? I stumbled upon
some BITNET NJE stuff that seems to know about VMS.
mylie:njesrc-960322 b4$ cat nmr_vms.c
/* NMR.C V2.7-mea
| Copyright (c) 1988,1989,1990 by
| The Hebrew University of Jerusalem, Computation Center.
|
| This software is distributed under a license from the Hebrew
University
| of Jerusalem. It may be copied only under the terms listed in the
license
| agreement. This copyright message should never be changed or removed.
| This software is gievn without any warranty, and the Hebrew
University
| of Jerusalem assumes no responsibility for any damage that might be
caused
| by use or misuse of this software.
| VMS environment specific versions of some routines.
/*
| Loop over all users in the system.
| Look for those that are interactive users.
| from those either list all of them (if UserName points to Null), or
look
| for a specific username (if UserName points to some string).
| If a list of users is requested, we try to block 6 usernames in a
single
| line.
*/
static struct itmlist { /* To retrive information from $GETJPI */
If I can get this to work with more point-to-point links, I might be able
to
get hobbyist IBM mainframe stuff linked to HECnet through the aide of
BITNET
NJE and UNIX/VMS.
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
yOn Tue, 19 Nov 2013, Gregg Levine wrote:
Hello!
Actually both of us were.
You both might be interested in ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/unix/networking/bitnet/ then.
And yes, there are (or were) a few IBM operating systems who spoke NJE.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
Sampsa,
You were interested in HECnet<----->BITNET stuff, right? I stumbled upon
some BITNET NJE stuff that seems to know about VMS.
mylie:njesrc-960322 b4$ cat nmr_vms.c
/* NMR.C V2.7-mea
| Copyright (c) 1988,1989,1990 by
| The Hebrew University of Jerusalem, Computation Center.
|
| This software is distributed under a license from the Hebrew University
| of Jerusalem. It may be copied only under the terms listed in the license
| agreement. This copyright message should never be changed or removed.
| This software is gievn without any warranty, and the Hebrew University
| of Jerusalem assumes no responsibility for any damage that might be
caused
| by use or misuse of this software.
| VMS environment specific versions of some routines.
/*
| Loop over all users in the system.
| Look for those that are interactive users.
| from those either list all of them (if UserName points to Null), or look
| for a specific username (if UserName points to some string).
| If a list of users is requested, we try to block 6 usernames in a single
| line.
*/
static struct itmlist { /* To retrive information from $GETJPI */
If I can get this to work with more point-to-point links, I might be able to
get hobbyist IBM mainframe stuff linked to HECnet through the aide of BITNET
NJE and UNIX/VMS.
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
You were interested in HECnet<----->BITNET stuff, right? I stumbled
upon some BITNET NJE stuff that seems to know about VMS.
mylie:njesrc-960322 b4$ cat nmr_vms.c
/* NMR.C V2.7-mea
| Copyright (c) 1988,1989,1990 by
| The Hebrew University of Jerusalem, Computation Center.
Can't speak for Huji on VMS; haven't tried it yet. For modern
platforms, you probably want to start with the funet fork of the Huji
stuff. Even the funet still needs some tuning up to build and work on
current Linux.
De
Hello!
Actually both of us were.
And yes, there are (or were) a few IBM operating systems who spoke NJE.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
Sampsa,
You were interested in HECnet<----->BITNET stuff, right? I stumbled upon
some BITNET NJE stuff that seems to know about VMS.
mylie:njesrc-960322 b4$ cat nmr_vms.c
/* NMR.C V2.7-mea
| Copyright (c) 1988,1989,1990 by
| The Hebrew University of Jerusalem, Computation Center.
|
| This software is distributed under a license from the Hebrew University
| of Jerusalem. It may be copied only under the terms listed in the license
| agreement. This copyright message should never be changed or removed.
| This software is gievn without any warranty, and the Hebrew University
| of Jerusalem assumes no responsibility for any damage that might be
caused
| by use or misuse of this software.
| VMS environment specific versions of some routines.
/*
| Loop over all users in the system.
| Look for those that are interactive users.
| from those either list all of them (if UserName points to Null), or look
| for a specific username (if UserName points to some string).
| If a list of users is requested, we try to block 6 usernames in a single
| line.
*/
static struct itmlist { /* To retrive information from $GETJPI */
If I can get this to work with more point-to-point links, I might be able to
get hobbyist IBM mainframe stuff linked to HECnet through the aide of BITNET
NJE and UNIX/VMS.
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
Sampsa,
You were interested in HECnet<----->BITNET stuff, right? I stumbled upon some BITNET NJE stuff that seems to know about VMS.
mylie:njesrc-960322 b4$ cat nmr_vms.c
/* NMR.C V2.7-mea
| Copyright (c) 1988,1989,1990 by
| The Hebrew University of Jerusalem, Computation Center.
|
| This software is distributed under a license from the Hebrew University
| of Jerusalem. It may be copied only under the terms listed in the license
| agreement. This copyright message should never be changed or removed.
| This software is gievn without any warranty, and the Hebrew University
| of Jerusalem assumes no responsibility for any damage that might be caused
| by use or misuse of this software.
| VMS environment specific versions of some routines.
/*
| Loop over all users in the system.
| Look for those that are interactive users.
| from those either list all of them (if UserName points to Null), or look
| for a specific username (if UserName points to some string).
| If a list of users is requested, we try to block 6 usernames in a single
| line.
*/
static struct itmlist { /* To retrive information from $GETJPI */
If I can get this to work with more point-to-point links, I might be able to get hobbyist IBM mainframe stuff linked to HECnet through the aide of BITNET NJE and UNIX/VMS.
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> writes:
Hello,
Is it normal for a MicroVAX II to drop out of a cluster and then reboot
when the console is disconnected?
I am using a USB<--->serial adapter...when I unplug it from USB the
machine reboots itself and leaves the cluster. (This wouldn't be too bad
if the battery that stores its settings hadn't died over a decade ago)
Anyone else have this problem?
You are making the console think it's seeing a <BREAK> being typed.
How are your switches set on the console bulkhead?
Break-enable switch is set. I'll toggle that unless the bulkhead is still touchy when I get back.
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> writes:
Hello,
Is it normal for a MicroVAX II to drop out of a cluster and then reboot
when the console is disconnected?
I am using a USB<--->serial adapter...when I unplug it from USB the
machine reboots itself and leaves the cluster. (This wouldn't be too bad
if the battery that stores its settings hadn't died over a decade ago)
Anyone else have this problem?
You are making the console think it's seeing a <BREAK> being typed.
How are your switches set on the console bulkhead?
--
VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG
Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> writes:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013, G. wrote:
%SYSBOOT-E-Unable to locate file PKCDRIVER.EXE
For some (strange) reason your MicroVAX ROM decided not to output the above
two messages but to consider every byte as an error message number, and to
output the corresponding error message identification.
Could be that the install was done on a MicroVAX 3100 and I tried to boot
it in a VAXstation 4000/60.
THat should make no difference. If it's a SCSI drive that can be read and
written by both systems, it should work with one caveat -- the VMS version
on the disk much be able to support the vintage of the VAX upon which the
boot is performed. Check this chart for minimum VMS suport for particular
VMS supported systems.
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/hw_supportchart.html
--
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Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
