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by phiber＠phiber.com

On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote: Hello! Mark, I feel your pain, I really do. (Yes I know that phrase is older then we are. Well most of us.) My service provider tends to support that theory but upon request would be interested in removing the block. The big problem is that your service provider suffers from be technologically challenged. They support the one from Washington State perfectly. They barely support Linux. And even the Mac. But what you are using, in this case TOPS-20 is something they haven't a clue about. Before moving, what were you using before? I'm from NYC, where TImeWarner gives you a nice fat pipe and doesn't mess with blocking any ports. So I never had to deal with this problem before. And what sort of responses did you get back from your service provider? Once upon a time even AT&T took that idiotic pose before it got worse when they were taking up with Yahoo....... I haven't raised the issue at all with Comcast here in San Jose. I got around it for incoming mail, I'll see if I can rewrite the outgoing traffic in my firewall and send it to a smarthost mail server on a port other than 25. But the whole thing is rather annoying. -Mark ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> wrote: Long story short: after moving to the other side of the country a year ago, I finally (recently) had time to get my TOPS-20 system (KLH10) back up and on HECnet. Only to discover that Comcast (cablemodem service), in their wisdom, blocks port 25 in and out, in an effort to "combat spammers". This rather complicates my e-mail setup in TOPS-20. For incoming, I simply created a transport relay on an external mail server that I control in order to deliver mail on an alternate port number that isn't blocked, and then simply port forward it from my firewall to tcp port 25 on the TOPS-20 server. That was the easy part. Outgoing mail from TOPS-20 is proving to be a bit more difficult. I was thinking I may be able to intercept all outgoing traffic from TOPS-20 bound for port 25 at whatever smtp server, and redirect it to a single smart host (mail server on the net which I control), on an alternate port that isn't blocked. Might work. The reason I'm asking about this here, is I'm curious given the mail transports at LEGATO and CHIMPY on HECnet, if anyone has tried simply setting one of them up as a "smarthost" relay for all outgoing mail in TOPS-20, perhaps via the <mail>mailer-relay-info.txt config file. Unfortunately the syntax of mailer-relay-info.txt is a little confusing; despite the explanation in the file's comments, there are no clear examples, and trying to follow the logic of the options in the MMAILR MACRO assembly code is less than helpful in modern mail server context (transmogrify?? who's domain??). Any suggestions welcome. -Mark

11 years, 4 months

TOPS-20 outgoing mail relay config

by bob＠jfcl.com

Comcast is evil. Evil.... My first suggestion would be to get a real ISP :-) Having said that, how about setting up a Linux box as a relay on your own internal network? It can accept incoming SSL mail on, say, port 465 and then just forward it over your local network to TOPS20 on port 25. Or does COMCAST block port 465 too? Bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Mark Abene Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2014 7:12 PM To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: [HECnet] TOPS-20 outgoing mail relay config Long story short: after moving to the other side of the country a year ago, I finally (recently) had time to get my TOPS-20 system (KLH10) back up and on HECnet. Only to discover that Comcast (cablemodem service), in their wisdom, blocks port 25 in and out, in an effort to "combat spammers". This rather complicates my e-mail setup in TOPS-20. For incoming, I simply created a transport relay on an external mail server that I control in order to deliver mail on an alternate port number that isn't blocked, and then simply port forward it from my firewall to tcp port 25 on the TOPS-20 server. That was the easy part. Outgoing mail from TOPS-20 is proving to be a bit more difficult. I was thinking I may be able to intercept all outgoing traffic from TOPS-20 bound for port 25 at whatever smtp server, and redirect it to a single smart host (mail server on the net which I control), on an alternate port that isn't blocked. Might work. The reason I'm asking about this here, is I'm curious given the mail transports at LEGATO and CHIMPY on HECnet, if anyone has tried simply setting one of them up as a "smarthost" relay for all outgoing mail in TOPS-20, perhaps via the <mail>mailer-relay-info.txt config file. Unfortunately the syntax of mailer-relay-info.txt is a little confusing; despite the explanation in the file's comments, there are no clear examples, and trying to follow the logic of the options in the MMAILR MACRO assembly code is less than helpful in modern mail server context (transmogrify?? who's domain??). Any suggestions welcome. -Mark

11 years, 4 months

TOPS-20 outgoing mail relay config

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

Hello! Mark, I feel your pain, I really do. (Yes I know that phrase is older then we are. Well most of us.) My service provider tends to support that theory but upon request would be interested in removing the block. The big problem is that your service provider suffers from be technologically challenged. They support the one from Washington State perfectly. They barely support Linux. And even the Mac. But what you are using, in this case TOPS-20 is something they haven't a clue about. Before moving, what were you using before? And what sort of responses did you get back from your service provider? Once upon a time even AT&T took that idiotic pose before it got worse when they were taking up with Yahoo....... ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> wrote: Long story short: after moving to the other side of the country a year ago, I finally (recently) had time to get my TOPS-20 system (KLH10) back up and on HECnet. Only to discover that Comcast (cablemodem service), in their wisdom, blocks port 25 in and out, in an effort to "combat spammers". This rather complicates my e-mail setup in TOPS-20. For incoming, I simply created a transport relay on an external mail server that I control in order to deliver mail on an alternate port number that isn't blocked, and then simply port forward it from my firewall to tcp port 25 on the TOPS-20 server. That was the easy part. Outgoing mail from TOPS-20 is proving to be a bit more difficult. I was thinking I may be able to intercept all outgoing traffic from TOPS-20 bound for port 25 at whatever smtp server, and redirect it to a single smart host (mail server on the net which I control), on an alternate port that isn't blocked. Might work. The reason I'm asking about this here, is I'm curious given the mail transports at LEGATO and CHIMPY on HECnet, if anyone has tried simply setting one of them up as a "smarthost" relay for all outgoing mail in TOPS-20, perhaps via the <mail>mailer-relay-info.txt config file. Unfortunately the syntax of mailer-relay-info.txt is a little confusing; despite the explanation in the file's comments, there are no clear examples, and trying to follow the logic of the options in the MMAILR MACRO assembly code is less than helpful in modern mail server context (transmogrify?? who's domain??). Any suggestions welcome. -Mark

11 years, 4 months

TOPS-20 outgoing mail relay config

by phiber＠phiber.com

Long story short: after moving to the other side of the country a year ago, I finally (recently) had time to get my TOPS-20 system (KLH10) back up and on HECnet. Only to discover that Comcast (cablemodem service), in their wisdom, blocks port 25 in and out, in an effort to "combat spammers". This rather complicates my e-mail setup in TOPS-20. For incoming, I simply created a transport relay on an external mail server that I control in order to deliver mail on an alternate port number that isn't blocked, and then simply port forward it from my firewall to tcp port 25 on the TOPS-20 server. That was the easy part. Outgoing mail from TOPS-20 is proving to be a bit more difficult. I was thinking I may be able to intercept all outgoing traffic from TOPS-20 bound for port 25 at whatever smtp server, and redirect it to a single smart host (mail server on the net which I control), on an alternate port that isn't blocked. Might work. The reason I'm asking about this here, is I'm curious given the mail transports at LEGATO and CHIMPY on HECnet, if anyone has tried simply setting one of them up as a "smarthost" relay for all outgoing mail in TOPS-20, perhaps via the <mail>mailer-relay-info.txt config file. Unfortunately the syntax of mailer-relay-info.txt is a little confusing; despite the explanation in the file's comments, there are no clear examples, and trying to follow the logic of the options in the MMAILR MACRO assembly code is less than helpful in modern mail server context (transmogrify?? who's domain??). Any suggestions welcome. -Mark

11 years, 4 months

Fwd: DECUServe status

by system＠TMESIS.COM

Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> writes: Looks like EISNER:: is back up! -Dave Yup, almost 2 days. I'm busy working on some RMS CDC enhancements but then, I will focus on the task of getting Eisner onto HECnet. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

11 years, 4 months

Fwd: DECUServe status

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

Looks like EISNER:: is back up! -Dave -------- Original Message -------- Subject: DECUServe status Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2014 22:27:43 -0600 From: Dale E. Coy <dale at thecoys.net> Reply-To: comp.os.vms to email gateway <info-vax at rbnsn.com> Organization: albasani.net To: info-vax at rbnsn.com Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Eisner/DECUServe/Encompasserve is back online. Thanks to Sue Skonetski for coordinating (arm-twisting?) Nemonix, when she also had other things to handle. Thanks to Nemonix for volunteering the physical hosting, financing the movement, receiving/assembling/etc. Thanks to Connect for lots of support. Thanks to Bill Norton of ibuttonlink for several years of hands-on system management, followed by wrangling the packing/shipping/etc. Thanks to Hunter Goatley for jumping in to help with the final communications setup. There are still a few details to sort out - but no big deals. The system is still on Central time - and I'm not sure that's all bad. Etc. Whew! Dale

11 years, 4 months

OT: need help with part number

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

I've been digging for hours and can't find this. I need the DEC part number for either (preferably both) of the two cabinet kits for the KFMSA board, which is an XMI DSSI controller. They are CK-KFMSA-LJ and CK-KFMSA-LN, but I need the part numbers. Can anyone help me out? Thanks, -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

11 years, 4 months

DECNET-10 in a simh emulated KS10 running TOPS-10

by jg＠jordi.guillaumes.name

The current state of simh allows to network a TOPS-10 simulated machine using the KDP/DUP interface. You need a VAX (or a PDP-11) configured as routing node and with a synchronous device enabled. As far as I know, this restricts your choice to a "full" VAX (I use the vax780) and to VMS 4.7 (I think later versions do not support the DMC without additional software). The gory details: http://ancientbits.blogspot.com.es/2014/01/networking-virtual-ks-10.html Enjoy! Jordi Guillaumes i Pons jg at jordi.guillaumes.name HECnet: BITXOV::JGUILLAUMES

11 years, 4 months

Re: HECnet Cisco Router Config for bart.4amlunch.net

by wonko＠4amlunch.net

Ignore this. It doesn't actually work yet for two reasons. A) I need to setup tftp on myst (and port my code to be able to tweak iptables instead of pf now, boo!) b) none of you have myst's IP address allowed I'm sure. :) I'm stepping away from the computer in a moment so this won't get finished today but I should likely have this done by tomorrow. In the meantime, you may all want to add the following IP address to your ACL for SNMP RW access: wonko at wintermute ~/bin $ host myst.platinum.net myst.platinum.net has address 199.166.5.172 -brian On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 01:13:04PM -0800, HECnet Cisco Config Tool wrote: TFTP Info: tftp://37.59.44.141/tunnel-bart.4amlunch.net-ipv4.txt Reason for change: Modified Tunnel52: Cory Smelosky (Area 9) "ip" changed from "75.49.5.33" to "9.9.9.9" ! ! Router config for bart.4amlunch.net ! interface Tunnel53 description HECnet tunnel for Dave McGuire (Area 61) [Version:239] no ip address decnet cost 20 tunnel source GigabitEthernet0/0 tunnel destination 50.73.179.1 tunnel path-mtu-discovery interface Tunnel51 description HECnet tunnel for Ian McLaughlin (Area 42) [Version:239] no ip address decnet cost 20 tunnel source GigabitEthernet0/0 tunnel destination 208.73.57.126 tunnel path-mtu-discovery interface Tunnel54 description HECnet tunnel for Peter Lothberg Reston VA (Area 59) [Version:239] no ip address decnet cost 20 tunnel source GigabitEthernet0/0 tunnel destination 199.0.131.2 tunnel path-mtu-discovery interface Tunnel55 description HECnet tunnel for Peter Lothberg Stockholm Sweden (Area 59) [Version:239] no ip address decnet cost 20 tunnel source GigabitEthernet0/0 tunnel destination 192.108.200.213 tunnel path-mtu-discovery interface Tunnel56 description HECnet tunnel for Peter Lothberg Uppsala (Area 59) [Version:239] no ip address decnet cost 20 tunnel source GigabitEthernet0/0 tunnel destination 130.238.19.60 tunnel path-mtu-discovery interface Tunnel57 description HECnet tunnel for Tim Sneddon (Area 12) [Version:239] no ip address decnet cost 20 tunnel source GigabitEthernet0/0 tunnel destination 120.146.225.243 tunnel path-mtu-discovery interface Tunnel52 description HECnet tunnel for Cory Smelosky (Area 9) [Version:239] no ip address decnet cost 20 tunnel source GigabitEthernet0/0 tunnel destination 9.9.9.9 tunnel path-mtu-discovery end

11 years, 4 months

OT: 4.3BSD's sendmail, using a smarthost

by b4＠gewt.net

Sent from mobile device that advertises itself for no good reason On 21 Jan 2014, at 09:05, Bill Pechter <pechter at gmail.com> wrote: Is the smarthost relay taking non-authenticated mail on the SMTP port (not submission port)? Yes. I got qmail to build and work. -- d|i|g|i|t|a|l had it THEN. Don't you wish you could still buy it now! pechter-at-gmail.com On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 3:31 AM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014, Mark Abene wrote: If all outgoing mail is now going through the smarthost, then it's correct. You may also want to edit /etc/aliases and run "newaliases" to take care of that "alias database out of date" message. It's not going through the smarthost is the problem. -Mark On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 12:00 AM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On Sun, 19 Jan 2014, Mark Abene wrote: If you're editing the sendmail.cf file directly, it's most likely "DS" for smarthost. I don't recall if 4.3BSD was using some version of sendmail 4 or 5.65, but if it understands "DS", you just say: DSrelay.domain.com # remaining names must be local R$+ $#local$:$1 everything else DSmercia.gimme-sympathy.org root at madeline:/misc/tahor/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/src: /usr/lib/sendmail -bd -q30m root at madeline:/misc/tahor/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/src: mail -v b4 at gewt.net test EOT Warning: alias database out of date b4 at gewt.net... Connecting to mailer.gewt.net (smtp)... No spaces, and restart sendmail. If that doesn't work, I can dig up the proper m4 macro to edit a sendmail.mc and process it into sendmail.cf.

11 years, 4 months

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