On Sun, 25 May 2014, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Sun, 25 May 2014, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Details, please... :-)
What errors are you seeing/getting?
First: it still complained about supervisor mode issues, it didn't first successful build.
Second: undefined symbols I didn't need to define first success.
Third: SAV not found
Fourth: index file full.
The simulator also kept randomly HALTing...
Johnny
Okay. Built FCSRES et al and it worked properly this time in SIMH. I configured it identically to the real hardware (including DHV11) so I can just stage it right to the real thing.
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On Sun, 25 May 2014, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Details, please... :-)
What errors are you seeing/getting?
First: it still complained about supervisor mode issues, it didn't first successful build.
Second: undefined symbols I didn't need to define first success.
Third: SAV not found
Fourth: index file full.
The simulator also kept randomly HALTing...
Johnny
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On 2014-05-25 09:36, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Sun, 25 May 2014, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2014-05-25 09:21, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Sun, 25 May 2014, Johnny Billquist wrote:
17:09:44 24-MAY-14
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TKB @RSXBLD
I don't recall it getting to this stage before!
Cool. So how many things did you have to fix in the end, and how/where
did you fix them?
I defined 3 undefined symbols in SGNPREFIX.CMD
However...now its failing in legitimately random ways in SIMH. No
failure is consistent. :(
Failing how?
Errors I didn't get before. I did a successful SYSGEN...then it started
hitting errors I hadn't hit before.
Details, please... :-)
What errors are you seeing/getting?
Johnny
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On Sun, 25 May 2014, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2014-05-25 09:21, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Sun, 25 May 2014, Johnny Billquist wrote:
17:09:44 24-MAY-14
;
TKB @RSXBLD
I don't recall it getting to this stage before!
Cool. So how many things did you have to fix in the end, and how/where
did you fix them?
I defined 3 undefined symbols in SGNPREFIX.CMD
However...now its failing in legitimately random ways in SIMH. No
failure is consistent. :(
Failing how?
Errors I didn't get before. I did a successful SYSGEN...then it started hitting errors I hadn't hit before.
Johnny
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On 2014-05-25 09:21, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Sun, 25 May 2014, Johnny Billquist wrote:
17:09:44 24-MAY-14
;
TKB @RSXBLD
I don't recall it getting to this stage before!
Cool. So how many things did you have to fix in the end, and how/where
did you fix them?
I defined 3 undefined symbols in SGNPREFIX.CMD
However...now its failing in legitimately random ways in SIMH. No
failure is consistent. :(
Failing how?
Johnny
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On Sun, 25 May 2014, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2014-05-25 00:53, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Sat, 24 May 2014, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Looks like rebuilding the tasks without FCSFSL and FCSRES fixes it.
tested in SIMH so building on real hardware now.
Yeah. Not sure how you managed to get things built with the supervisor mode libraries. But obviously that would not work.
The problem was that I DIDN'T build any. ;) Didn't occur to me they'd be shipped needing split I&D.
Anyway. You really should build the RES versions though, since those are the normal shared libraries, and it saves on memory when you are running.
Thanks. I wasn't sure what options I should've used.
Johnny
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On 2014-05-25 00:53, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Sat, 24 May 2014, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Looks like rebuilding the tasks without FCSFSL and FCSRES fixes it.
tested in SIMH so building on real hardware now.
Yeah. Not sure how you managed to get things built with the supervisor mode libraries. But obviously that would not work.
Anyway. You really should build the RES versions though, since those are the normal shared libraries, and it saves on memory when you are running.
Johnny
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On Sun, 25 May 2014, Johnny Billquist wrote:
taskbuilding...it must've preallocated space last round.
That sounds weird, and was probably a reason for the failures you later reported. But I'm not even aware that it would skip any steps. SYSGEN do not have such a feature. What did you do??? :-)
Probably. ;)
I have no idea what I did! I just continued from where I left off.
I'm going to stage it in SIMH so I won't need to wait 4 hours for confirmation of a chance working/not working. ;)
Johnny
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On 2014-05-24 23:20, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Sat, 24 May 2014, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 05/24/2014 05:14 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Looks like progress!
TIME
17:09:44 24-MAY-14
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TKB @RSXBLD
I don't recall it getting to this stage before!
Ah-HA, that's the biggie! Crossin' my fingers..
Yup!
It seems to have output less this time and jumped straight to the
taskbuilding...it must've preallocated space last round.
That sounds weird, and was probably a reason for the failures you later reported. But I'm not even aware that it would skip any steps. SYSGEN do not have such a feature. What did you do??? :-)
Johnny
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On 2014-05-24 23:14, Jean-Yves Bernier wrote:
At 10:21 PM +0200 24/5/14, Johnny Billquist wrote:
So "Physical" is not "Hardware", and there is no need to SET XQ MAC.
I tried and it maked no change.
Right. Since your machine will set a different MAC address anyway, at
start, when you enable DECnet. The physical address is whatever you
set in simh before starting. It have no actual relevance once DECnet
starts. If you were to run something else, which did not use DECnet
(such as Unix), the address you set in simh will be the actual MAC
address used, since IP do not change the MAC address of interfaces. No
need.
You mean "the Hardware address is whatever you set in simh before
starting". CEX will set it to "Physical address" (in DECNET parlance)
which is AA-00-04-00-(1024 x area + node).
The MAC address is AA-00-04-00-01-28 for DECNET and 08-00-2B-AA-BB-CC
for Linux.
Uh... Not really. simh do not actually change the MAC address of the physical interface.
What it does is that it "fakes" it, so that you get a second MAC address on the physical interface, which just leads into simh. Linux own MAC address is yet again something else, and that is never touched.
The simh interface starts out with 08-00-2B-AA-BB-CC, but that is changed to AA-00-04-00-01-28 by DECnet when it starts up, at which point it no longer listens to 08-00-2B-AA-BB-CC. That address is just kept around as the original hardware address of the simulated network interface inside simh.
And with "physical" here I mean the actual network card in your PC, which Linux (or whatever host) is using.
So, a NIC may have different MAC addresses depending of the network
stack running. Am I right here?
Sortof. Your machine normally do only have one MAC address, but if you have DECnet running, it will need to change your MAC address. All other network protocols on your machine will then also use this "new" MAC address.
So, if you in Linux runs both DECnet and TCP/IP, you'll have a different MAC address than if you were to only run TCP/IP.
Really hard to give a good explanation on why without having good
access to all parts of the setup to be able to test and examine things.
Well, my system is working 99%, that's not so bad :)
It is working 100%, you just have performance issues...
Johnny
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