On Sun, 25 May 2014, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Could be...
Did you do a netgen after building RSX?
Yes.
I used the NETKIT/DECKIT version 3 (http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/bits/DEC/pdp11/magtapes/rsx11mplus/BB-M4… and http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/bits/DEC/pdp11/magtapes/rsx11mplus/BB-AS… on 4.6)
Also, I hope you are not using the lat programs that someone wrote under Unix, since they are breaking the protocols in some way. I have never bothered to find out exactly how, but they do not play nicely with RSX. A real DECserver works fine, though.
Nope. Used a DECserver 200/MC with a 320 hanging off it. Logged in fine, got directory listing, created a file, logged out...then it crashed.
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On 2014-05-25 16:34, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Sun, 25 May 2014, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Glad good scans exist! ;)
It used to be that Stromasys had them available, but right now I can't
seem to find the page I used to look at...
I'm sure they're around somewhere.
As soon as I have a little time, I'll put them all up on MIM::, along with other useful RSX stuff.
MOIRA::CSMELOSKY$ set host mandy
%SYSTEM-F-PROTOCOL, network protocol error
MANDY:: being the PDP-11? What is MOIRA::?
Yeah. MOIRA:: is my VAXstation 4000/60.
Hmm. What version of RSX and DECnet did you install?
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On Sun, 25 May 2014, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Glad good scans exist! ;)
It used to be that Stromasys had them available, but right now I can't seem to find the page I used to look at...
I'm sure they're around somewhere.
MOIRA::CSMELOSKY$ set host mandy
%SYSTEM-F-PROTOCOL, network protocol error
MANDY:: being the PDP-11? What is MOIRA::?
Yeah. MOIRA:: is my VAXstation 4000/60.
Johnny
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On 2014-05-25 16:28, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Sun, 25 May 2014, Cory Smelosky wrote:
LAT works!
Uhhh. Except it crashes when someone logs out.
10:26:53 Logout user SMELOSKY [300,1] TT11:
CRASH -- CONT WITH SCRATCH MEDIA ON MU000
004251
Confirmed and reproduced. I think my DECnet and RSX-11M+ versions are a
bit mismatched.
Could be...
Did you do a netgen after building RSX?
Also, I hope you are not using the lat programs that someone wrote under Unix, since they are breaking the protocols in some way. I have never bothered to find out exactly how, but they do not play nicely with RSX. A real DECserver works fine, though.
Johnny
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email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
On 2014-05-25 16:06, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Sun, 25 May 2014, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Yeah. I'm skimming the Manager's guide (which doesn't actually have the
commands. Seriously. There are blank spaces where the command
should be)
I think you've found a scan where anything in red turned invisible.
There are other scans of the manuals that are better.
Glad good scans exist! ;)
It used to be that Stromasys had them available, but right now I can't seem to find the page I used to look at...
However, by default, the system manager account has the password
"SYSTEM" if I remember right. And that leaves you logged in with
privileges...
Yup!
Also: it's up!
Event type 4.15, Adjacency up
Occurred 25-MAY-14 10:04:39 on node 9.4 (MANDY)
Circuit QNA-0
Adjacent node = 9.1023 (A9RTR)
...that does not however mean it WORKS.
MOIRA::CSMELOSKY$ set host mandy
%SYSTEM-F-PROTOCOL, network protocol error
MANDY:: being the PDP-11? What is MOIRA::?
Johnny
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On Sun, 25 May 2014, Cory Smelosky wrote:
LAT works!
Uhhh. Except it crashes when someone logs out.
10:26:53 Logout user SMELOSKY [300,1] TT11:
CRASH -- CONT WITH SCRATCH MEDIA ON MU000
004251
Confirmed and reproduced. I think my DECnet and RSX-11M+ versions are a bit mismatched.
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On Sun, 25 May 2014, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Got bored of copying stuff using (virtual) serial, eh? ;)
Get an M+ system with split I/D space, and use my TCP/IP instead... :-)
If all goes well whenever Dave heads out this way he'll be dropping off some -11s that HOPEFULLY have split I&D.
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On 2014-05-25 15:57, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Sun, 25 May 2014, Jean-Yves Bernier wrote:
Well, my system is working 99%, that's not so bad :)
It is working 100%, you just have performance issues...
Besides playing around, which I admin is awfully fun, the reason for
using DECnet was to transfer big files (tens of megabytes). So I am
out of luck for now, but I haven't said my last word.
Got bored of copying stuff using (virtual) serial, eh? ;)
Get an M+ system with split I/D space, and use my TCP/IP instead... :-)
Johnny
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On Sun, 25 May 2014, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Yeah. I'm skimming the Manager's guide (which doesn't actually have the
commands. Seriously. There are blank spaces where the command should be)
I think you've found a scan where anything in red turned invisible. There are other scans of the manuals that are better.
Glad good scans exist! ;)
Ahhhhhhh. That makes much more sense, thanks!
It all makes sense, once you know it. :-)
Yup.
Ahhhhhhhh. I was thinking of it in VMS terms.
Hmm. Terminals are not privileged under VMS, I thought. I though it was users who have various privileges.
I was trying to apply user privilege systems to the terminal stuff. Whoops!
Good thing I've not managed to make the console unprivileged. ;)
Yes. If you make it non-privileged, you will not be able to turn it back to privileged again, since that is a privileged command... :-)
Yeah. ;)
However, by default, the system manager account has the password "SYSTEM" if I remember right. And that leaves you logged in with privileges...
Yup!
Also: it's up!
Event type 4.15, Adjacency up
Occurred 25-MAY-14 10:04:39 on node 9.4 (MANDY)
Circuit QNA-0
Adjacent node = 9.1023 (A9RTR)
...that does not however mean it WORKS.
MOIRA::CSMELOSKY$ set host mandy
%SYSTEM-F-PROTOCOL, network protocol error
Johnny
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On 2014-05-25 15:54, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Sun, 25 May 2014, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Why?
I want to use the disk I had the temporary baseline on for other stuff.
No need to waste an entire 520M disk for 20M of networking. ;)
Once you've done the installation, that disk is not needed.
But you could just copy all the files over, preserving the directory structure. Use BRU.
Johnny
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email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
