Ah Johnny that's an easy choice then :-)
I'll stick to the bridge then
Happy New Year!
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Origineel bericht
Van: Johnny Billquist
Verzonden: vrijdag 2 januari 2015 18:34
Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
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Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Hecnet Peering
On 2015-01-02 18:28, Hans Vlems wrote:
Is there an advantage if you use a tunnel in stead of Johnny's bridge
program which I use?
It scales better and use less network bandwidth, if that is a concern.
But it won't pass through LAT or MOP. Pick your poison. :-)
Johnny
Hans
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*Van: *Tim Sneddon
*Verzonden: *vrijdag 2 januari 2015 18:24
*Aan: *hecnet at update.uu.se
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*Onderwerp: *Re: [HECnet] Hecnet Peering
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 1:17 AM, Steve Davidson <steve at davidson.net
<mailto:steve at davidson.net>> wrote:
Tim,
The short form... DEChubs are us. I have both the backplanes and
the MultiStacks. They currently have hubs, LAT servers, and
dedicated LAT printer modules. I even have the Packet Probe module
with software...
That should work nicely.
Regards, Tim.
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
On 2015-01-02 17:32, Tim Sneddon wrote:
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 12:11 AM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se
<mailto:bqt at softjar.se>> wrote:
I just checked some more. I can reach BENDER:: (12,2), so based on
that, HUB:: would appear to run correctly.
(HUB:: is supposedly my next hop going to BENDER::)
BENDER:: seems to be running Phase V (I suspect), as I can't really
speak NICE to it, but PHONE worked fine.
You are correct, BENDER:: is Phase V.
Suspected as much. It works weirdly. :-)
Anyway - as an additional update to the OP. Looking at MIM, I now see that my next hop for BENDER:: is DIMMA::, so I would still not totally rule out possible issues with HUB::
Not sure what the problem going to area 22 would be then...
Sometimes I have noticed dodgy routing. For a while there was a node on
the network advertising bad routes to the 12 network. I think it was a
Linux box doing it. I never figured out what was doing it as by the
time I got home and started looking at it, everything seemed to work
just fine :-)
Hmm. The Linux DECnet have never been properly debugged or tested. Whenever it is involved, one needs to be ware...
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 1:34 AM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2015-01-02 18:28, Hans Vlems wrote:
Is there an advantage if you use a tunnel in stead of Johnny's bridge
program which I use?
It scales better and use less network bandwidth, if that is a concern.
But it won't pass through LAT or MOP. Pick your poison. :-)
It does scale better. However, it is possible to bridge LAT and/or MOP over the link also.
Regards, Tim.
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 1:34 AM, Steve Davidson <steve at davidson.net> wrote:
Tim,
I am running DEChub 90's. Does the brouter work there or require the '900 platform? Actually I have extra power supplies come to think of it. Does the brouter require any special cabling? Thanks!
DEChub90s are perfect. It is not a DEChub900 module.
There is no special cabling. It has serial interfaces, but they won't be used. They have either a 10Base2 coaxial connection on top, or a 10baseT port on the front. Obviously, if they are in a DEChub, then they connect into the backplane like all the other modules.
Did you see my reply over DECnet?
Regards, Tim.
On 2015-01-02 18:28, Hans Vlems wrote:
Is there an advantage if you use a tunnel in stead of Johnny's bridge
program which I use?
It scales better and use less network bandwidth, if that is a concern.
But it won't pass through LAT or MOP. Pick your poison. :-)
Johnny
Hans
Verzonden vanaf mijn BlackBerry 10-smartphone.
*Van: *Tim Sneddon
*Verzonden: *vrijdag 2 januari 2015 18:24
*Aan: *hecnet at update.uu.se
*Beantwoorden: *hecnet at Update.UU.SE
*Onderwerp: *Re: [HECnet] Hecnet Peering
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 1:17 AM, Steve Davidson <steve at davidson.net
<mailto:steve at davidson.net>> wrote:
Tim,
The short form... DEChubs are us. I have both the backplanes and
the MultiStacks. They currently have hubs, LAT servers, and
dedicated LAT printer modules. I even have the Packet Probe module
with software...
That should work nicely.
Regards, Tim.
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Tim,
I am running DEChub 90's. Does the brouter work there or require the '900 platform? Actually I have extra power supplies come to think of it. Does the brouter require any special cabling? Thanks!
-Steve
On Jan 2, 2015, at 12:28, Hans Vlems <hvlems at zonnet.nl> wrote:
Is there an advantage if you use a tunnel in stead of Johnny's bridge program which I use?
Hans
Verzonden vanaf mijn BlackBerry 10-smartphone.
Van: Tim Sneddon
Verzonden: vrijdag 2 januari 2015 18:24
Aan: hecnet at update.uu.se
Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Hecnet Peering
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 1:17 AM, Steve Davidson <steve at davidson.net> wrote:
Tim,
The short form... DEChubs are us. I have both the backplanes and the MultiStacks. They currently have hubs, LAT servers, and dedicated LAT printer modules. I even have the Packet Probe module with software...
That should work nicely.
Regards, Tim.
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 1:28 AM, Hans Vlems <hvlems at zonnet.nl> wrote:
Is there an advantage if you use a tunnel in stead of Johnny's bridge program which I use?
Hi Hans,
Not really. I think it was Brian Hechinger that started it. I joined in almost straight away as I had an old DECbrouter 90T2a and a long history of working with them.
Regards, Tim.
Is there an advantage if you use a tunnel in stead of Johnny's bridge program which I use?
Hans
Verzonden vanaf mijn BlackBerry 10-smartphone.
Van: Tim Sneddon
Verzonden: vrijdag 2 januari 2015 18:24
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Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Hecnet Peering
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 1:17 AM, Steve Davidson <steve at davidson.net> wrote:
Tim,
The short form... DEChubs are us. I have both the backplanes and the MultiStacks. They currently have hubs, LAT servers, and dedicated LAT printer modules. I even have the Packet Probe module with software...
That should work nicely.
Regards, Tim.
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 1:17 AM, Steve Davidson <steve at davidson.net> wrote:
Tim,
The short form... DEChubs are us. I have both the backplanes and the MultiStacks. They currently have hubs, LAT servers, and dedicated LAT printer modules. I even have the Packet Probe module with software...
That should work nicely.
Regards, Tim.
Tim,
The short form... DEChubs are us. I have both the backplanes and the MultiStacks. They currently have hubs, LAT servers, and dedicated LAT printer modules. I even have the Packet Probe module with software...
-Steve
On Jan 2, 2015, at 12:09, Tim Sneddon <tim at sneddon.id.au> wrote:
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 12:58 AM, Steve Davidson <steve at davidson.net> wrote:
How much should I expect to pay for one of these units?
It depends. A Cisco 1841 with nothing in it (just Ethernet interfaces) can be as cheap as $50. The DECbrouters can be as low as $20. The only killer about the DECbrouter is that unless you have a DEChub or MultiStack, finding one with a power supply is a pain. If you have a DEChub (or MultiStack), then I can ship you one for free in a few weeks. I have appropriate versions of software for all.
Regards, Tim.
