Tim,
The short form... DEChubs are us. I have both the backplanes and the MultiStacks. They currently have hubs, LAT servers, and dedicated LAT printer modules. I even have the Packet Probe module with software...
-Steve
On Jan 2, 2015, at 12:09, Tim Sneddon <tim at sneddon.id.au> wrote:
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 12:58 AM, Steve Davidson <steve at davidson.net> wrote:
How much should I expect to pay for one of these units?
It depends. A Cisco 1841 with nothing in it (just Ethernet interfaces) can be as cheap as $50. The DECbrouters can be as low as $20. The only killer about the DECbrouter is that unless you have a DEChub or MultiStack, finding one with a power supply is a pain. If you have a DEChub (or MultiStack), then I can ship you one for free in a few weeks. I have appropriate versions of software for all.
Regards, Tim.
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 12:58 AM, Steve Davidson <steve at davidson.net> wrote:
How much should I expect to pay for one of these units?
It depends. A Cisco 1841 with nothing in it (just Ethernet interfaces) can be as cheap as $50. The DECbrouters can be as low as $20. The only killer about the DECbrouter is that unless you have a DEChub or MultiStack, finding one with a power supply is a pain. If you have a DEChub (or MultiStack), then I can ship you one for free in a few weeks. I have appropriate versions of software for all.
Regards, Tim.
How much should I expect to pay for one of these units?
-Steve
On Jan 2, 2015, at 11:52, Tim Sneddon <tim at sneddon.id.au> wrote:
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 12:42 AM, Steve Davidson <steve at davidson.net> wrote:
Tim,
What are the hardware/software requirements for these tunnels?
Hi Steve,
They are just Cisco (or DEC-branded Cisco) routers that are connected via a mesh of GRE tunnels. The tunnels themselves only run DECnet over them (Phase IV, although OSI could be done). I now use a Cisco 1841. However, I previously used a DECbrouter 90T2a. I know that others use various other models of Cisco routers 3000 and 7000 series, I believe.
Regards, Tim.
-Steve
Hollis, NH (US)
On Jan 2, 2015, at 11:34, Tim Sneddon <tim at sneddon.id.au> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Peter Lothberg <roll at stupi.se> wrote:
> Think that the config below wouldn=E2=80=99t work s the decent node-type =
> is routing-iv which is a L1 router?
My fault. If you talk to dimma in area 59 it should say;
decnet node-type area
Hi Peter,
I would love to get tunnels up and running to your part of the world. We did talk about it about 6 months back, but nothing ever came of it. Are you still interested? My endpoint is 120.146.225.243.
Regards, Tim.
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 12:42 AM, Steve Davidson <steve at davidson.net> wrote:
Tim,
What are the hardware/software requirements for these tunnels?
Hi Steve,
They are just Cisco (or DEC-branded Cisco) routers that are connected via a mesh of GRE tunnels. The tunnels themselves only run DECnet over them (Phase IV, although OSI could be done). I now use a Cisco 1841. However, I previously used a DECbrouter 90T2a. I know that others use various other models of Cisco routers 3000 and 7000 series, I believe.
Regards, Tim.
-Steve
Hollis, NH (US)
On Jan 2, 2015, at 11:34, Tim Sneddon <tim at sneddon.id.au> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Peter Lothberg <roll at stupi.se> wrote:
> Think that the config below wouldn=E2=80=99t work s the decent node-type =
> is routing-iv which is a L1 router?
My fault. If you talk to dimma in area 59 it should say;
decnet node-type area
Hi Peter,
I would love to get tunnels up and running to your part of the world. We did talk about it about 6 months back, but nothing ever came of it. Are you still interested? My endpoint is 120.146.225.243.
Regards, Tim.
On 2015-01-02 17:42, Steve Davidson wrote:
Tim,
What are the hardware/software requirements for these tunnels?
Cisco routers with the DECnet routing software installed.
Johnny
-Steve
Hollis, NH (US)
On Jan 2, 2015, at 11:34, Tim Sneddon <tim at sneddon.id.au
<mailto:tim at sneddon.id.au>> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Peter Lothberg <roll at stupi.se
<mailto:roll at stupi.se>> wrote:
> Think that the config below wouldn=E2=80=99t work s the decent
node-type =
> is routing-iv which is a L1 router?
My fault. If you talk to dimma in area 59 it should say;
decnet node-type area
Hi Peter,
I would love to get tunnels up and running to your part of the world.
We did talk about it about 6 months back, but nothing ever came of
it. Are you still interested? My endpoint is 120.146.225.243.
Regards, Tim.
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Tim,
What are the hardware/software requirements for these tunnels?
-Steve
Hollis, NH (US)
On Jan 2, 2015, at 11:34, Tim Sneddon <tim at sneddon.id.au> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Peter Lothberg <roll at stupi.se> wrote:
> Think that the config below wouldn=E2=80=99t work s the decent node-type =
> is routing-iv which is a L1 router?
My fault. If you talk to dimma in area 59 it should say;
decnet node-type area
Hi Peter,
I would love to get tunnels up and running to your part of the world. We did talk about it about 6 months back, but nothing ever came of it. Are you still interested? My endpoint is 120.146.225.243.
Regards, Tim.
On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Peter Lothberg <roll at stupi.se> wrote:
> Think that the config below wouldn=E2=80=99t work s the decent node-type =
> is routing-iv which is a L1 router?
My fault. If you talk to dimma in area 59 it should say;
decnet node-type area
Hi Peter,
I would love to get tunnels up and running to your part of the world. We did talk about it about 6 months back, but nothing ever came of it. Are you still interested? My endpoint is 120.146.225.243.
Regards, Tim.
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 12:11 AM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
I just checked some more. I can reach BENDER:: (12,2), so based on that, HUB:: would appear to run correctly.
(HUB:: is supposedly my next hop going to BENDER::)
BENDER:: seems to be running Phase V (I suspect), as I can't really speak NICE to it, but PHONE worked fine.
You are correct, BENDER:: is Phase V.
Not sure what the problem going to area 22 would be then...
Sometimes I have noticed dodgy routing. For a while there was a node on the network advertising bad routes to the 12 network. I think it was a Linux box doing it. I never figured out what was doing it as by the time I got home and started looking at it, everything seemed to work just fine :-)
Regards, Tim.
Think that the config below wouldn=E2=80=99t work s the decent node-type =
is routing-iv which is a L1 router?
My fault. If you talk to dimma in area 59 it should say;
decnet node-type area
-P
I just checked some more. I can reach BENDER:: (12,2), so based on that, HUB:: would appear to run correctly.
(HUB:: is supposedly my next hop going to BENDER::)
BENDER:: seems to be running Phase V (I suspect), as I can't really speak NICE to it, but PHONE worked fine.
Not sure what the problem going to area 22 would be then...
Johnny
On 2015-01-02 16:32, Mark Darvill wrote:
Hi Tim,
DECnet on this test system is just Decnet IV running on VMS 7.3.
I can t do a loop node to 12.1023 but not sure that would work anyway if
it is a cisco.
Also can t seem to get to 12.2. Have just rebooted 22.10 as SIMH may
have crashed.
Mark
On 2 Jan 2015, at 15:15, Tim Sneddon <tim at sneddon.id.au
<mailto:tim at sneddon.id.au>> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Mark Darvill<mark.darvill at mac.com
<mailto:mark.darvill at mac.com>>wrote:
HI,
I have been playing with my cisco router and a SIMH Vax over the
break.
from my router I can see the following neighbours
cmrtr01#show decnet nei
Net Node Interface MAC address Flags
0 12.1023 Tunnel57 0000.0000.0000 A
0 42.1022 Tunnel51 0000.0000.0000 A
0 61.1023 Tunnel53 0000.0000.0000 A
0 22.10 FastEthernet0/1 aa00.0400.0a58 V
and the following routes
cmrtr01#show decnet route
Area Cost Hops Next Hop to Node Expires Prio
*1 50 2 Tunnel51 -> 42.1022
*2 52 4 Tunnel51 -> 42.1022
*3 51 3 Tunnel51 -> 42.1022
*7 50 2 Tunnel51 -> 42.1022
*8 50 2 Tunnel51 -> 42.1022
*9 40 2 Tunnel57 -> 12.1023
*11 50 2 Tunnel51 -> 42.1022
*12 20 1 Tunnel57 -> 12.1023 44
64 A+
*18 51 3 Tunnel51 -> 42.1022
*19 50 2 Tunnel51 -> 42.1022
*22 0 0 (Local) -> 22.100
*23 40 2 Tunnel53 -> 61.1023
*28 50 2 Tunnel51 -> 42.1022
*33 51 3 Tunnel51 -> 42.1022
*39 51 3 Tunnel51 -> 42.1022
*42 20 1 Tunnel51 -> 42.1022 45
64 A+
*47 50 2 Tunnel51 -> 42.1022
*59 50 2 Tunnel51 -> 42.1022
*61 20 1 Tunnel53 -> 61.1023 38
64 A+
Node Cost Hops Next Hop to Node Expires Prio
*(Area) 0 0 (Local) -> 22.100
*22.10 4 1 FastEthernet0/1 -> 22.10 33
64 V
*22.100 0 0 (Local) -> 22.100
My SIMH Vax can see my router and has an adjacency. My node is
22.10 and router 22.100
Can anyone see area 22 as I don t seem to be able to communicate
elsewhere.
Hi Mark,
My network is 12, your Tunnel57 hooks into my router. From my router
I am able to ping 22.100, but I cannot reach 22.10. Are you able to
hit my router (12.1023) or my VAX (12.2)? Which version of DECnet are
you running on 22.10?
I am happy to help you figure out what might be going on.
Regards, Tim.
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
