On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:29:23 +0100, you wrote:
No sorry, didn't realise I needed any licenses for those. I run KZPACs
(DRxx devices) on both my Alphas, and just use the AlphaBIOS
management utility when I need it.
Evidently DEC used the same device designation for more than one device type.
So DRxx are both hardware and software RAID devices (and I suspect they were
also some very old device designation back when disks were removable).
Obviously the harware feature doesn't need any PAK, but the software one...
G.
P.S.: Did you succeed in installing I64 OpenVMS via InfoServer?
On 17 Sep 2008, at 13:42, gerry77 at mail.com wrote:
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 20:15:48 +0100, you wrote:
I'm tempted to ask on c.o.v. but am a bit worried people would take it
the wrong way.
I do agree with you. Some people seems to say "I do not want to understand".
Months ago I asked something about V5.5-2 and they did not ansewer my question
but suggested to upgrade to Alpha... :-P
Yeah, I got a right bollocking for summarising the DEFCON slides in the wrong way or something. There are some grumpy grumpy old men on that group, but overall they can be very helpful and friendly.
I think it's insane that they hand out all these licenses but then no
software, what's the point?
Yes, quite strange. Not only they do offer licenses for layered products not
easily available to Hobbyists, but even the operating system itself is not
officially available. A strange position indeed. BTW, speaking about licenses:
do you happen to have any licenses not present in the usual Hobbyist offering?
E.g. we are looking for host based RAID licenses (DRxx: devices) since about
two years, to no avail! :-|
No sorry, didn't realise I needed any licenses for those. I run KZPACs (DRxx devices) on both my Alphas, and just use the AlphaBIOS management utility when I need it.
Sampsa
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 20:15:48 +0100, you wrote:
I'm tempted to ask on c.o.v. but am a bit worried people would take it
the wrong way.
I do agree with you. Some people seems to say "I do not want to understand".
Months ago I asked something about V5.5-2 and they did not ansewer my question
but suggested to upgrade to Alpha... :-P
I think it's insane that they hand out all these licenses but then no
software, what's the point?
Yes, quite strange. Not only they do offer licenses for layered products not
easily available to Hobbyists, but even the operating system itself is not
officially available. A strange position indeed. BTW, speaking about licenses:
do you happen to have any licenses not present in the usual Hobbyist offering?
E.g. we are looking for host based RAID licenses (DRxx: devices) since about
two years, to no avail! :-|
G.
Yeah, sorry, forgot the question mark :)
I'm tempted to ask on c.o.v. but am a bit worried people would take it the wrong way.
I think it's insane that they hand out all these licenses but then no software, what's
the point?
Sampsa
On 16 Sep 2008, at 20:12, gerry77 at mail.com wrote:
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:39:11 +0100, you wrote:
Your friend with the I64 on your retro network wouldn't be willing to
share some layered product installers (i.e. compilers etc), I've got
the paks but again no install media.
Is that a question? :-)
BTW, my friend actually is abroad and will be back on Thursday. Up until then
I cannot say nothing for sure, but - if I remember correctly - we do not have
anything more that what you can find on the images from HP.
Maybe, MAYBE, he found the C compiler (or was he looking for it?) but I do not
remember where, when and how :-P
I'll tell you something in the next days. If you'll not hear anything from me
write me back on Friday! :-)
G.
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:39:11 +0100, you wrote:
Your friend with the I64 on your retro network wouldn't be willing to
share some layered product installers (i.e. compilers etc), I've got
the paks but again no install media.
Is that a question? :-)
BTW, my friend actually is abroad and will be back on Thursday. Up until then
I cannot say nothing for sure, but - if I remember correctly - we do not have
anything more that what you can find on the images from HP.
Maybe, MAYBE, he found the C compiler (or was he looking for it?) but I do not
remember where, when and how :-P
I'll tell you something in the next days. If you'll not hear anything from me
write me back on Friday! :-)
G.
Gerry,
Your friend with the I64 on your retro network wouldn't be willing to share some layered product installers (i.e. compilers etc), I've got the paks but again no install media.
Sampsa
On 15 Sep 2008, at 22:11, gerry77 at mail.com wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:52:24 +0100, you wrote:
Yeah, the EFI stuff is ACTUALLY quite self explanatory, I think I
should be able to get the Netboot working. Now I don't actually have
a SCSI drive to do the install onto, so will have fun seeing what USB
devices will work :)
Are you sure you do want to go with a USB disk? Reading around about either
VMS or EFI USB support, it appears that it could be a nightmare... Wouldn't be
better to spend your efforts looking for a SCSI disk instead? :)
G.
Oh of course I'll get a SCSI disk in due time, like a week or so :)
But for now I'll try a USB drive, I think VMS on a pendrive would be a nice little hack.
Sampsa
On 15 Sep 2008, at 22:11, gerry77 at mail.com wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:52:24 +0100, you wrote:
Yeah, the EFI stuff is ACTUALLY quite self explanatory, I think I
should be able to get the Netboot working. Now I don't actually have
a SCSI drive to do the install onto, so will have fun seeing what USB
devices will work :)
Are you sure you do want to go with a USB disk? Reading around about either
VMS or EFI USB support, it appears that it could be a nightmare... Wouldn't be
better to spend your efforts looking for a SCSI disk instead? :)
G.
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:52:24 +0100, you wrote:
Yeah, the EFI stuff is ACTUALLY quite self explanatory, I think I
should be able to get the Netboot working. Now I don't actually have
a SCSI drive to do the install onto, so will have fun seeing what USB
devices will work :)
Are you sure you do want to go with a USB disk? Reading around about either
VMS or EFI USB support, it appears that it could be a nightmare... Wouldn't be
better to spend your efforts looking for a SCSI disk instead? :)
G.
