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by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Chrissie Caulfield<christine.caulfield at googlemail.com> wrote: I installed Snow Leopard on my Mac Mini this afternoon (no snide comments please), and it seems to have broken something in libpcap such simh networking no longer works. I've tried a few obvious things to no avail. So my normal emulated router ROOSTA is down at the moment. I've booted up the real VAX called Zarqon to keep the network running and it should be OK for a while, or at least until I need to use that room for recordings. Chrissie Hello! I actually wasn't going to yield to temptation as it happens. However you might want to report the bug to Apple. That cat just came out this week and there are sure as somebody made green apples going to be bugs. Besides I know a specific snow leopard and that's his favorite...... ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature was once found posting rude messages in English in the Moscow subway."

15 years, 9 months

Cat eats rooster

by christine.caulfield＠googlemail.com

I installed Snow Leopard on my Mac Mini this afternoon (no snide comments please), and it seems to have broken something in libpcap such simh networking no longer works. I've tried a few obvious things to no avail. So my normal emulated router ROOSTA is down at the moment. I've booted up the real VAX called Zarqon to keep the network running and it should be OK for a while, or at least until I need to use that room for recordings. Chrissie

15 years, 9 months

GORVAX and CHIMPY down

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

At 9:52 PM +0100 8/28/09, Sampsa Laine wrote: Well the BBS is not running on VMS but CHIMPY does have an account (B4BBS) that automagically connects to the service. The BBS runs as a Win2k VM on the same physical machine as GORVAX. Sampsa PS: Check out http://sampsa.com/b4bbs/ - there's Flash-based PC-ANSI emulator on that (the ANSI used by BBS software tends to break stuff on more "normal" emulators) Since I haven't had time to hook up my DECserver and get a real terminal going, I went in via the webpage. That's seriously cool. Reminds me a lot of the old BBS's I used to visit when I was stationed in Washington DC. Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

15 years, 9 months

GORVAX and CHIMPY down

by sampsa＠mac.com

Well the BBS is not running on VMS but CHIMPY does have an account (B4BBS) that automagically connects to the service. The BBS runs as a Win2k VM on the same physical machine as GORVAX. Sampsa PS: Check out http://sampsa.com/b4bbs/ - there's Flash-based PC-ANSI emulator on that (the ANSI used by BBS software tends to break stuff on more "normal" emulators) On 28 Aug 2009, at 19:38, Zane H. Healy wrote: Isn't one of these a system with a Fidonet BBS? I've been wanting to check that out, but only just got back on HECnet. Zane On Fri, 28 Aug 2009, Sampsa Laine wrote: Guys, GORVAX and CHIMPY will be down from tomorrow morning onwards - the ISP has indicated that the new DSL will be active within 5 working days. Anyone who is relying on GORVAX for routing will obviously be affected. Sampsa

15 years, 9 months

GORVAX and CHIMPY down

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

Isn't one of these a system with a Fidonet BBS? I've been wanting to check that out, but only just got back on HECnet. Zane On Fri, 28 Aug 2009, Sampsa Laine wrote: Guys, GORVAX and CHIMPY will be down from tomorrow morning onwards - the ISP has indicated that the new DSL will be active within 5 working days. Anyone who is relying on GORVAX for routing will obviously be affected. Sampsa

15 years, 9 months

GORVAX and CHIMPY down

by sampsa＠mac.com

Guys, GORVAX and CHIMPY will be down from tomorrow morning onwards - the ISP has indicated that the new DSL will be active within 5 working days. Anyone who is relying on GORVAX for routing will obviously be affected. Sampsa

15 years, 9 months

What DEC created operating systems support the networking protocol used?

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Paul Koning<Paul_Koning at dell.com> wrote: It would depend on how big "the whole business" is. I looked in http://elvira.stacken.kth.se/rsts/rsts_80th_birthday.html for a memory refresh. DECnet/E appeared in RSTS/E V6C. That was Phase II -- no routing, DMC/DMR only. For 2 or 3 nodes, that was a useable version. Phase III (single level routing) appeared in V7.1. (That was my project -- first RSTS/E project I worked on if you ignore a week on PIP in the V6B timeframe.) That would serve for installations up to about 250 nodes. DMP/DMV support was added, including multipoint. Ethernet support and DECnet phase IV (level 1 routing and endnode only, no area routing) appeared in V9.3. It took so long because it was hard to convince management to allow the work in the first place. There was a sentiment that Ethernet wasn't interesting for PDP-11s, and/or that no RSTS system lived in a network bigger than a few dozen nodes (so Phase IV wasn't needed). The latter argument may have been valid -- I never did run into any really large DECnet networks apart from the one inside DEC. So anyway... unless you want lots of nodes, or multi-area addressing, Phase III will serve which means V7.1 or later is ok. Oh yes, you do need DDCMP then. Ethernet or Phase IV require 9.3 or later; async DDCMP requires 10.0 or later. paul -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Gregg Levine Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:10 AM To: hecnet at update.uu.se Subject: [HECnet] What DEC created operating systems support the networking protocol used? Hello! I've managed to track down several examples of the RSTS family of operating systems from DEC. Would any of you have any clew as to which member specifically spoke the networking protocol that we use here to communicate within the whole business? These were of course for the PDP-11. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature was once found posting rude messages in English in the Moscow subway." Hello! That thoroughly answers my questions. Thank you Paul. Incidentally Johnny the examples came up on a posting to the list for the SIMH family of emulators, tapes et cetera from the RSTS fan site, http://www.rsts.org . On that site the author mentions that the collection would work on John Wilson's excellent E11 emulator, so I'm not surprised that the individual there had gotten the whole thing to work on his SIMH emulation kit, except for some interesting problems. Of course the next problem is working out the details for creating this whole business for doing so, I imagine that a commodity router who's got my current Ethernet network all wired together would not do that. I would need a Cisco setup for that purpose. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature was once found posting rude messages in English in the Moscow subway."

15 years, 9 months

Who's emulating?

by wonko＠4amlunch.net

On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 09:53:00PM -0400, John Wilson wrote: hobby users can use the Demo version of E11 (for Linux or any other host OS) for free, indefinitely. It has some cripples, but it's still pretty luxurious compared to any real PDP-11 system I ever had... Foo, no Solaris version, and my Linux VM doesn't appear to have enough RAM set to it. Guess it's time to finally get Linux installed on that old laptop of mine. :) -brian -- "Coding in C is like sending a 3 year old to do groceries. You gotta tell them exactly what you want or you'll end up with a cupboard full of pop tarts and pancake mix." -- IRC User (http://www.bash.org/?841435)

15 years, 9 months

What DEC created operating systems support the networking protocol used?

by Paul_Koning＠Dell.com

It would depend on how big "the whole business" is. I looked in http://elvira.stacken.kth.se/rsts/rsts_80th_birthday.html for a memory refresh. DECnet/E appeared in RSTS/E V6C. That was Phase II -- no routing, DMC/DMR only. For 2 or 3 nodes, that was a useable version. Phase III (single level routing) appeared in V7.1. (That was my project -- first RSTS/E project I worked on if you ignore a week on PIP in the V6B timeframe.) That would serve for installations up to about 250 nodes. DMP/DMV support was added, including multipoint. Ethernet support and DECnet phase IV (level 1 routing and endnode only, no area routing) appeared in V9.3. It took so long because it was hard to convince management to allow the work in the first place. There was a sentiment that Ethernet wasn't interesting for PDP-11s, and/or that no RSTS system lived in a network bigger than a few dozen nodes (so Phase IV wasn't needed). The latter argument may have been valid -- I never did run into any really large DECnet networks apart from the one inside DEC. So anyway... unless you want lots of nodes, or multi-area addressing, Phase III will serve which means V7.1 or later is ok. Oh yes, you do need DDCMP then. Ethernet or Phase IV require 9.3 or later; async DDCMP requires 10.0 or later. paul -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Gregg Levine Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:10 AM To: hecnet at update.uu.se Subject: [HECnet] What DEC created operating systems support the networking protocol used? Hello! I've managed to track down several examples of the RSTS family of operating systems from DEC. Would any of you have any clew as to which member specifically spoke the networking protocol that we use here to communicate within the whole business? These were of course for the PDP-11. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature was once found posting rude messages in English in the Moscow subway."

15 years, 9 months

What DEC created operating systems support the networking protocol used?

by bqt＠softjar.se

Hi. Gregg Levine wrote: Hello! I've managed to track down several examples of the RSTS family of operating systems from DEC. Would any of you have any clew as to which member specifically spoke the networking protocol that we use here to communicate within the whole business? These were of course for the PDP-11. I think that it was less than a week since Paul Konig said that DECnet phsse IV came in V9, or if it even was V10 of RSTS/E. Ie. very new versions only. Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

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