On Sun, 25 Jan 2015, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 01/25/2015 03:07 PM, Mark Wickens wrote:
Well, I decided to trim the collection of fat over the past year or so.
I haven't regretted it. There are still 3100s in the garage that really
need to go to the skip - out of 5 of them I couldn't get one to work.
Whoa, hold on there. These machines aren't getting any more common,
you know. Their common failure modes are usually easy to fix. Please
at least give them to someone.
Sometimes they faults don't even matter. ;)
(Mine with bad memory)
-Dave
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
On 01/25/2015 03:07 PM, Mark Wickens wrote:
Well, I decided to trim the collection of fat over the past year or so.
I haven't regretted it. There are still 3100s in the garage that really
need to go to the skip - out of 5 of them I couldn't get one to work.
Whoa, hold on there. These machines aren't getting any more common,
you know. Their common failure modes are usually easy to fix. Please
at least give them to someone.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ/3
New Kensington, PA
The VAX780 node in area 5 is my own SIMH instance running on a Raspberry Pi, with the area router being my user mode router that is running on a small server I always keep running. Other nodes will only pop up from time to time, but the Raspberry Pi uses so little power that of course I can keep it running permanently.
I agree though, there is always that trepidation when powering something on. Now, if you no longer want that DECstation 5000/240 you only have to let me know . J
Regards
Rob
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Mark Wickens Sent: 25 January 2015 20:08 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Number of nodes online a bit low?
Well, I decided to trim the collection of fat over the past year or so. I haven't regretted it. There are still 3100s in the garage that really need to go to the skip - out of 5 of them I couldn't get one to work. The ZX6000 went, and I now have SLAVE (AlphaServer 1000A), BUBBLE (4000/90 with BA356 pack) and ORAC all up and running on simulators on a DL380 G5. BUBBLE is a 4-cpu VAX MP instance. SIMVAX - a straight SIMH instance running on an HP Microserver - has been serving http://hecnet.eu for the past 18 months or so.
I do like some real hardware BTW - I'm not a complete heathen, but it's nice to have all that available without having to root through for cables, transceivers etc. etc. and especially nice not having that cringing feeling every time I hit the power switch. Probably most of all however is that I can run some powerful VAX simulators 24/7 without having to worry *too much* about the cost.
I stayed away from emulation for a long time, but so far with a bit of perseverance I'm not regretting it.
On 25 January 2015 at 19:37, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2015-01-25 20:32, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Civilised? They invented the freaking alphabet 30 km north of my apartment. The current population just tends towards the trigger-happy and sectarian but it's pretty normal here, aside from the fucking power cuts. But I love it here - I can go diving in the summer and going skiing tomorrow. Besides, where else can I can get a top floor apartment in a good area with a view of the mountains AND the sea for these kinds of prices? Also, the REALLY good food is like 70% cheaper than London/Paris/Dubai/HK etc..
[...] And power 20h a day, with glitches, from one source, and 4h a day with glitches from another source... I think I'll pass. :-)
I think I'll keep Beirut, buy a UPS if when I get non-laptop computers.
UPS? Non-laptop... Well, I'd say that the kind of computers I'm thinking of, the UPS required is rather large... Most UPSes are mostly good for just laptops. ;-) Johnny
Sampsa On 25 Jan 2015, at 21:18, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>> wrote:
On 2015-01-25 19:31, Sampsa Laine wrote:
And the worst thing about it - I've got LOADS of room for this thing, I live alone in 150 sq m flat (well I have a cat, so that's like 1.3 people). I just don't have the power infrastructure to run it. And NO I am NOT buying my own diesel generator.
How about moving back to a civilized country? Johnny
On 25 Jan 2015, at 20:13, John Wilson <wilson at dbit.com <mailto:wilson at dbit.com>> wrote:
From: Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com <mailto:sampsa at mac.com>>
< but > However < I really had nowhere to put it > I could not find sufficient space for such a large object anywhere = reasonable.
Yeah that's the part that's just line noise. What are you sitting on right now? Couldn't it be a PDP-11 instead? And do you sleep lying down? That space could be put to better use. John Wilson (whose dining room has an 11/34a and an 11/93 in it, kitchen has two RK05s, living room has a BA23 with a Mentec CPU, etc. etc. etc.)
-- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email:bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se> || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
-- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Well, I decided to trim the collection of fat over the past year or so. I haven't regretted it. There are still 3100s in the garage that really need to go to the skip - out of 5 of them I couldn't get one to work. The ZX6000 went, and I now have SLAVE (AlphaServer 1000A), BUBBLE (4000/90 with BA356 pack) and ORAC all up and running on simulators on a DL380 G5. BUBBLE is a 4-cpu VAX MP instance. SIMVAX - a straight SIMH instance running on an HP Microserver - has been serving http://hecnet.eu for the past 18 months or so.
I do like some real hardware BTW - I'm not a complete heathen, but it's nice to have all that available without having to root through for cables, transceivers etc. etc. and especially nice not having that cringing feeling every time I hit the power switch. Probably most of all however is that I can run some powerful VAX simulators 24/7 without having to worry *too much* about the cost.
I stayed away from emulation for a long time, but so far with a bit of perseverance I'm not regretting it.
On 25 January 2015 at 19:37, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2015-01-25 20:32, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Civilised? They invented the freaking alphabet 30 km north of my
apartment.
The current population just tends towards the trigger-happy and
sectarian but it's pretty normal here, aside from the fucking power cuts.
But I love it here - I can go diving in the summer and going skiing
tomorrow.
Besides, where else can I can get a top floor apartment in a good area
with a view of the mountains AND the sea for these kinds of prices?
Also, the REALLY good food is like 70% cheaper than
London/Paris/Dubai/HK etc..
[...]
And power 20h a day, with glitches, from one source, and 4h a day with glitches from another source... I think I'll pass. :-)
I think I'll keep Beirut, buy a UPS if when I get non-laptop computers.
UPS? Non-laptop... Well, I'd say that the kind of computers I'm thinking of, the UPS required is rather large... Most UPSes are mostly good for just laptops. ;-)
Johnny
Sampsa
On 25 Jan 2015, at 21:18, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se
<mailto:bqt at softjar.se>> wrote:
On 2015-01-25 19:31, Sampsa Laine wrote:
And the worst thing about it - I've got LOADS of room for this thing,
I live alone in 150 sq m flat (well I have a cat, so that's like 1.3
people).
I just don't have the power infrastructure to run it. And NO I am NOT
buying my own diesel generator.
How about moving back to a civilized country?
Johnny
On 25 Jan 2015, at 20:13, John Wilson <wilson at dbit.com
<mailto:wilson at dbit.com>> wrote:
From: Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com <mailto:sampsa at mac.com>>
< but >
However
< I really had nowhere to put it >
I could not find sufficient space for such a large object anywhere =
reasonable.
Yeah that's the part that's just line noise. What are you sitting on
right now? Couldn't it be a PDP-11 instead? And do you sleep lying
down? That space could be put to better use.
John Wilson (whose dining room has an 11/34a and an 11/93 in it, kitchen
has two RK05s, living room has a BA23 with a Mentec CPU, etc. etc. etc.)
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email:bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se> || Reading
murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
On 2015-01-25 20:32, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Civilised? They invented the freaking alphabet 30 km north of my
apartment.
The current population just tends towards the trigger-happy and
sectarian but it's pretty normal here, aside from the fucking power cuts.
But I love it here - I can go diving in the summer and going skiing
tomorrow.
Besides, where else can I can get a top floor apartment in a good area
with a view of the mountains AND the sea for these kinds of prices?
Also, the REALLY good food is like 70% cheaper than
London/Paris/Dubai/HK etc..
[...]
And power 20h a day, with glitches, from one source, and 4h a day with glitches from another source... I think I'll pass. :-)
I think I'll keep Beirut, buy a UPS if when I get non-laptop computers.
UPS? Non-laptop... Well, I'd say that the kind of computers I'm thinking of, the UPS required is rather large... Most UPSes are mostly good for just laptops. ;-)
Johnny
Sampsa
On 25 Jan 2015, at 21:18, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se
<mailto:bqt at softjar.se>> wrote:
On 2015-01-25 19:31, Sampsa Laine wrote:
And the worst thing about it - I've got LOADS of room for this thing,
I live alone in 150 sq m flat (well I have a cat, so that's like 1.3
people).
I just don't have the power infrastructure to run it. And NO I am NOT
buying my own diesel generator.
How about moving back to a civilized country?
Johnny
On 25 Jan 2015, at 20:13, John Wilson <wilson at dbit.com
<mailto:wilson at dbit.com>> wrote:
From: Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com <mailto:sampsa at mac.com>>
< but >
However
< I really had nowhere to put it >
I could not find sufficient space for such a large object anywhere =
reasonable.
Yeah that's the part that's just line noise. What are you sitting on
right now? Couldn't it be a PDP-11 instead? And do you sleep lying
down? That space could be put to better use.
John Wilson (whose dining room has an 11/34a and an 11/93 in it, kitchen
has two RK05s, living room has a BA23 with a Mentec CPU, etc. etc. etc.)
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email:bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se> || Reading
murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Civilised? They invented the freaking alphabet 30 km north of my apartment.
The current population just tends towards the trigger-happy and sectarian but it's pretty normal here, aside from the fucking power cuts.
But I love it here - I can go diving in the summer and going skiing tomorrow.
Besides, where else can I can get a top floor apartment in a good area with a view of the mountains AND the sea for these kinds of prices?
Also, the REALLY good food is like 70% cheaper than London/Paris/Dubai/HK etc..
I think I'll keep Beirut, buy a UPS if when I get non-laptop computers.
Sampsa
On 25 Jan 2015, at 21:18, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2015-01-25 19:31, Sampsa Laine wrote:
And the worst thing about it - I've got LOADS of room for this thing, I live alone in 150 sq m flat (well I have a cat, so that's like 1.3 people).
I just don't have the power infrastructure to run it. And NO I am NOT buying my own diesel generator.
How about moving back to a civilized country?
Johnny
On 25 Jan 2015, at 20:13, John Wilson <wilson at dbit.com> wrote:
From: Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com>
< but >
However
< I really had nowhere to put it >
I could not find sufficient space for such a large object anywhere =
reasonable.
Yeah that's the part that's just line noise. What are you sitting on
right now? Couldn't it be a PDP-11 instead? And do you sleep lying
down? That space could be put to better use.
John Wilson (whose dining room has an 11/34a and an 11/93 in it, kitchen
has two RK05s, living room has a BA23 with a Mentec CPU, etc. etc. etc.)
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
On 2015-01-25 19:31, Sampsa Laine wrote:
And the worst thing about it - I've got LOADS of room for this thing, I live alone in 150 sq m flat (well I have a cat, so that's like 1.3 people).
I just don't have the power infrastructure to run it. And NO I am NOT buying my own diesel generator.
How about moving back to a civilized country?
Johnny
On 25 Jan 2015, at 20:13, John Wilson <wilson at dbit.com> wrote:
From: Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com>
< but >
However
< I really had nowhere to put it >
I could not find sufficient space for such a large object anywhere =
reasonable.
Yeah that's the part that's just line noise. What are you sitting on
right now? Couldn't it be a PDP-11 instead? And do you sleep lying
down? That space could be put to better use.
John Wilson (whose dining room has an 11/34a and an 11/93 in it, kitchen
has two RK05s, living room has a BA23 with a Mentec CPU, etc. etc. etc.)
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
On 2015-01-25 16:12, Sampsa Laine wrote:
So I ran a simple script that tried to get the executable characteristics of a node, for each node in the nodedb.
I was surprised to see that only 33 systems seemed to be online.
I thought there would've been more up.
Note that not all machines on HECnet speaks NICE... No Cisco boxes do, for example, even though they do talk DECnet and have node numbers.
But in general, yes, the list is much shorter than the registered nodes. Lots of people don't keep their machines up 24x7, and lots of people also are not always even online with any box.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
I can imagine the HECnet post subject:
"Cat got into <insert vital part of PDP-11> - won't boot now, any advice?"
sampsa
On 25 Jan 2015, at 20:38, Hans Vlems <hvlems at zonnet.nl> wrote:
The cat might think differently
Verzonden vanaf mijn BlackBerry 10-smartphone.
Origineel bericht
Van: Sampsa Laine
Verzonden: zondag 25 januari 2015 19:31
Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Number of nodes online a bit low?
And the worst thing about it - I've got LOADS of room for this thing, I live alone in 150 sq m flat (well I have a cat, so that's like 1.3 people).
I just don't have the power infrastructure to run it. And NO I am NOT buying my own diesel generator.
On 25 Jan 2015, at 20:13, John Wilson <wilson at dbit.com> wrote:
From: Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com>
< but >
However
< I really had nowhere to put it >
I could not find sufficient space for such a large object anywhere =
reasonable.
Yeah that's the part that's just line noise. What are you sitting on
right now? Couldn't it be a PDP-11 instead? And do you sleep lying
down? That space could be put to better use.
John Wilson (whose dining room has an 11/34a and an 11/93 in it, kitchen
has two RK05s, living room has a BA23 with a Mentec CPU, etc. etc. etc.)
The cat might think differently
Verzonden vanaf mijn BlackBerry 10-smartphone.
Origineel bericht
Van: Sampsa Laine
Verzonden: zondag 25 januari 2015 19:31
Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Number of nodes online a bit low?
And the worst thing about it - I've got LOADS of room for this thing, I live alone in 150 sq m flat (well I have a cat, so that's like 1.3 people).
I just don't have the power infrastructure to run it. And NO I am NOT buying my own diesel generator.
On 25 Jan 2015, at 20:13, John Wilson <wilson at dbit.com> wrote:
From: Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com>
< but >
However
< I really had nowhere to put it >
I could not find sufficient space for such a large object anywhere =
reasonable.
Yeah that's the part that's just line noise. What are you sitting on
right now? Couldn't it be a PDP-11 instead? And do you sleep lying
down? That space could be put to better use.
John Wilson (whose dining room has an 11/34a and an 11/93 in it, kitchen
has two RK05s, living room has a BA23 with a Mentec CPU, etc. etc. etc.)
