I could probably do this with NetBSD as a front end to deal with spam and
then Multinet as the actual gateway.
I use PMAS for SPAM filtering my mail, but when I was doing it before I
explicitly opted out all the DECnet mail from PMAS processing. The thing
is, if you're going to start SPAM filtering for people's DECnet mail, then
they need a way to get to their quarantined messages, configure their
white/black lists, etc. That's not really a problem (PMAS has a web
interface for just this purpose and I'm sure all the other SPAM filters do
too) but then people need a browser and a TCP/IP interface to receive their
DECnet mail. At some point it all becomes kind of silly.
That's why I opted out the DECnet mail from SPAM filtering. Hopefully
people don't publish their DECnet addresses on web pages or mailing lists.
Like I said, the gateway was hardly ever used so SPAM never became a
problem.
How much of a load is Multinet on an Alpha (Jensen)?
Not much, I would imagine. A Jensen is the slowest Alpha (or does that
honor go to the Multia? Can't remember...) but still, Multinet runs just
fine on a VAX - even the slowest Alpha ought to be blazingly fast in
comparison :-)
BTW, do you have any extra Jensen sheet metal parts? I've got a beautiful
AXP2000 in the garage, but it's missing its side panel. Gets pretty dusty
inside.
Bob
I agree with Johnny, "Because it can be done" is a perfectly valid motivation - speaking of mail gateways, I have set up a Fidonet netmail gateway on the aptly named FIDOGW box. I'll be posting more about this soon.
Sampsa
On 20 Oct 2009, at 16:41, Johnny Billquist wrote:
I don't know about you guys, but for me, the fact that the connectivity even exists is a fun thing. Even if noone normally use it.
Johnny
Bob Armstrong wrote:
If you guys want to do direct incoming SMTP for some reason, I'm not sure I'll be able to help, I think my ISP blocks inbound SMTP.
FWIW, I used to run an SMTP<->MAIL11 gateway on LEGATO, but I quit when I
transferred to CODA. I have no objection to doing it again, but frankly no
one used it much. I think that the HECnet machines that people actually
used from day-to-day are already all connected directly to the Internet
anyway and the MAIL11 gateway is superfluous.
Bob
I don't know about you guys, but for me, the fact that the connectivity even exists is a fun thing. Even if noone normally use it.
Johnny
Bob Armstrong wrote:
If you guys want to do direct incoming SMTP for some reason, I'm not sure I'll be able to help, I think my ISP blocks inbound SMTP.
FWIW, I used to run an SMTP<->MAIL11 gateway on LEGATO, but I quit when I
transferred to CODA. I have no objection to doing it again, but frankly no
one used it much. I think that the HECnet machines that people actually
used from day-to-day are already all connected directly to the Internet
anyway and the MAIL11 gateway is superfluous.
Bob
I could probably do this with NetBSD as a front end to deal with spam and then Multinet as the actual gateway. I even have domains that would be kind of nice to use in this context - (vmsnet.org, declab.(net,org), and even pdp-11.net).
How much of a load is Multinet on an Alpha (Jensen)?
-Steve
________________________________
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE on behalf of Bob Armstrong
Sent: Tue 10/20/2009 11:16
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: RE: [HECnet] SMTP gateways to HECnet?
What software did you run for the MAIL11 gateway?
Multinet can do this.
Outgoing (DECnet->SMTP) is trivial. Incoming (SMTP->DECnet) requires some
DNS futzing and Multinet configuration.
Bob
What software did you run for the MAIL11 gateway?
Multinet can do this.
Outgoing (DECnet->SMTP) is trivial. Incoming (SMTP->DECnet) requires some
DNS futzing and Multinet configuration.
Bob
On 20 Oct 2009, at 16:03, Steve Davidson wrote:
The SMTP block is easy to test, if you need it.
-Steve
Yes I know - but I'm not a big fan of incoming SMTP, adds lots of noise to logs.
Sampsa
Bob,
What software did you run for the MAIL11 gateway?
-Steve
________________________________
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE on behalf of Bob Armstrong
Sent: Tue 10/20/2009 11:11
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: RE: [HECnet] SMTP gateways to HECnet?
If you guys want to do direct incoming SMTP for some reason, I'm not
sure I'll be able to help, I think my ISP blocks inbound SMTP.
FWIW, I used to run an SMTP<->MAIL11 gateway on LEGATO, but I quit when I
transferred to CODA. I have no objection to doing it again, but frankly no
one used it much. I think that the HECnet machines that people actually
used from day-to-day are already all connected directly to the Internet
anyway and the MAIL11 gateway is superfluous.
Bob
If you guys want to do direct incoming SMTP for some reason, I'm not
sure I'll be able to help, I think my ISP blocks inbound SMTP.
FWIW, I used to run an SMTP<->MAIL11 gateway on LEGATO, but I quit when I
transferred to CODA. I have no objection to doing it again, but frankly no
one used it much. I think that the HECnet machines that people actually
used from day-to-day are already all connected directly to the Internet
anyway and the MAIL11 gateway is superfluous.
Bob
The SMTP block is easy to test, if you need it.
-Steve
________________________________
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE on behalf of Sampsa Laine
Sent: Tue 10/20/2009 10:03
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] SMTP gateways to HECnet?
Go for it!
I'll reconfigure CHIMPY to do email on the behalf of that domain if
you wish, the way I've set up my incoming mail is as follows:
1. MX record points at Google Apps
2. Catchall account at Google Apps picks up the mail
3. Fetchmail on my network picks up mail from Google Apps and
distributes it here
If you guys want to do direct incoming SMTP for some reason, I'm not
sure I'll be able to help, I think my ISP blocks inbound SMTP.
Sampsa
On 20 Oct 2009, at 11:06, Mark Wickens wrote:
Marc Chametzky wrote:
A couple weeks ago, I was setting up DECnet Mail on my virtual RSTS/E
system and spent some time setting up e-mail for lulu.trailingzone.com
to be routed to LULU via my PMDF setup on DUSTY.
I was just wondering whether there's interest in setting up a
domain for HECnet with one or more systems capable of bridging SMTP-
to-MAIL-11.
Out of curiosity, I took a look to see whether domains like hec.net
or hecnet.{com,net,org} were available, and as expected, they
weren't. That kind of burst my bubble a bit. :-)
--Marc
Hi,
Well, hecnet.eu is available - I'd like to see a 'meta' hecnet page
online containing links to all the individual sites with a
description of the project etc. We could subdomain this to provide smtp.hecnet.eu
for example of mail.hecnet.eu and the like.
I'm happy to foot the bill and setup a webserver (wasd of course!).
Regards, Mark
Go for it!
I'll reconfigure CHIMPY to do email on the behalf of that domain if you wish, the way I've set up my incoming mail is as follows:
1. MX record points at Google Apps
2. Catchall account at Google Apps picks up the mail
3. Fetchmail on my network picks up mail from Google Apps and distributes it here
If you guys want to do direct incoming SMTP for some reason, I'm not sure I'll be able to help, I think my ISP blocks inbound SMTP.
Sampsa
On 20 Oct 2009, at 11:06, Mark Wickens wrote:
Marc Chametzky wrote:
A couple weeks ago, I was setting up DECnet Mail on my virtual RSTS/E
system and spent some time setting up e-mail for lulu.trailingzone.com to be routed to LULU via my PMDF setup on DUSTY.
I was just wondering whether there's interest in setting up a domain for HECnet with one or more systems capable of bridging SMTP-to-MAIL-11.
Out of curiosity, I took a look to see whether domains like hec.net or hecnet.{com,net,org} were available, and as expected, they weren't. That kind of burst my bubble a bit. :-)
--Marc
Hi,
Well, hecnet.eu is available - I'd like to see a 'meta' hecnet page online containing links to all the individual sites with a description of the project etc. We could subdomain this to provide smtp.hecnet.eu for example of mail.hecnet.eu and the like.
I'm happy to foot the bill and setup a webserver (wasd of course!).
Regards, Mark
