Try GAMES:[DND2] it might be the only working version. I'm not sure why I
have what looks to be non-working versions there.
Zane
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Zane,
I get the following when I try to run DND on PDXVAX (as GUEST):
$ @dnd
%BAS-F-FILATTNOT, File attributes not matched
-BAS-I-ON_CHAFIL, on channel 5 for file GAMES:[000000.DND]DNDLVL.;1 at user PC 0
000884C
-BAS-I-FROLINMOD, from line 310 in module DND
%TRACE-F-TRACEBACK, symbolic stack dump follows
module name routine name line rel PC abs PC
BAS$ERROR BAS$$HANDLER 0000046E 00021BA1
----- above condition handler called with exception 001A8504:
%BAS-F-FILATTNOT, File attributes not matched
-BAS-I-ON_CHAFIL, on channel 5 for file GAMES:[000000.DND]DNDLVL.;1 at user PC 0
000884C
----- end of exception message
BAS$$SIGNAL_IO BAS$$STOP_IO 000000A4 00026227
BAS$OPEN BAS$OPEN 00000B71 000246B1
DND DND 0000004C 0000884C
On 20 Oct 2009, at 00:11, Zane H. Healy wrote:
Check out the following for all the details. http://rancourt.tripod.com/default.htm
I personally prefer the VAX/VMS version to Telengard on my Commodore 64. Though I spent a lot of time playing the C64 version when my VAX was down.
:-)
Zane
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009, Sampsa Laine wrote:
DND is a RPG of some kind? Multiplayer? I'll have to check it out.
On a somewhat related note, there's a really nifty ANSI backgammon game on B4BBS - I would love a game if anyone else is up for it.
Being a PC-ANSI BBS, you need a very specific terminal emulator, a VT* won't work unfortunately. I've got a Flash client set up on the B4BBS site, though at:
http://sampsa.com/b4bbs/
Sampsa
On 20 Oct 2009, at 00:01, Zane H. Healy wrote:
On PDXVAX the GUEST login should have access to the following. I should
have more up there... My main use for PDXVAX is to play DND. :-)
Zane
$ dir games:[000000]
Directory GAMES:[000000]
ARCHIVE.DIR;1 BATTLESTAR.EXE;1 DND.DIR;1 DND2.DIR;1 DUNGDRAG.DIR;1 GAL-TRADER.DIR;1
Total of 6 files.
$
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, Sampsa Laine wrote:
What games are on offer across HECnet?
CHIMPY at the moment offers the TETRIS login, wondering what else is out there.
Well CHIMPY already gates mail in and out, the domain is CHIMPYMAIL.COM - obviously not ideal, but hey :)
If you want to send mail out, address it to CHIMPY::smtp%"user at domain". Incoming mail should be addressed as NODE::USER at chimpymail.com.
Sampsa
On 20 Oct 2009, at 00:16, Marc Chametzky wrote:
A couple weeks ago, I was setting up DECnet Mail on my virtual RSTS/E
system and spent some time setting up e-mail for lulu.trailingzone.com to be routed to LULU via my PMDF setup on DUSTY.
I was just wondering whether there's interest in setting up a domain for HECnet with one or more systems capable of bridging SMTP-to-MAIL-11.
Out of curiosity, I took a look to see whether domains like hec.net or hecnet.{com,net,org} were available, and as expected, they weren't. That kind of burst my bubble a bit. :-)
--Marc
Zane,
I get the following when I try to run DND on PDXVAX (as GUEST):
$ @dnd
%BAS-F-FILATTNOT, File attributes not matched
-BAS-I-ON_CHAFIL, on channel 5 for file GAMES:[000000.DND]DNDLVL.;1 at user PC 0
000884C
-BAS-I-FROLINMOD, from line 310 in module DND
%TRACE-F-TRACEBACK, symbolic stack dump follows
module name routine name line rel PC abs PC
BAS$ERROR BAS$$HANDLER 0000046E 00021BA1
----- above condition handler called with exception 001A8504:
%BAS-F-FILATTNOT, File attributes not matched
-BAS-I-ON_CHAFIL, on channel 5 for file GAMES:[000000.DND]DNDLVL.;1 at user PC 0
000884C
----- end of exception message
BAS$$SIGNAL_IO BAS$$STOP_IO 000000A4 00026227
BAS$OPEN BAS$OPEN 00000B71 000246B1
DND DND 0000004C 0000884C
On 20 Oct 2009, at 00:11, Zane H. Healy wrote:
Check out the following for all the details. http://rancourt.tripod.com/default.htm
I personally prefer the VAX/VMS version to Telengard on my Commodore 64. Though I spent a lot of time playing the C64 version when my VAX was down.
:-)
Zane
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009, Sampsa Laine wrote:
DND is a RPG of some kind? Multiplayer? I'll have to check it out.
On a somewhat related note, there's a really nifty ANSI backgammon game on B4BBS - I would love a game if anyone else is up for it.
Being a PC-ANSI BBS, you need a very specific terminal emulator, a VT* won't work unfortunately. I've got a Flash client set up on the B4BBS site, though at:
http://sampsa.com/b4bbs/
Sampsa
On 20 Oct 2009, at 00:01, Zane H. Healy wrote:
On PDXVAX the GUEST login should have access to the following. I should
have more up there... My main use for PDXVAX is to play DND. :-)
Zane
$ dir games:[000000]
Directory GAMES:[000000]
ARCHIVE.DIR;1 BATTLESTAR.EXE;1 DND.DIR;1 DND2.DIR;1 DUNGDRAG.DIR;1 GAL-TRADER.DIR;1
Total of 6 files.
$
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, Sampsa Laine wrote:
What games are on offer across HECnet?
CHIMPY at the moment offers the TETRIS login, wondering what else is out there.
A couple weeks ago, I was setting up DECnet Mail on my virtual RSTS/E
system and spent some time setting up e-mail for lulu.trailingzone.com to be routed to LULU via my PMDF setup on DUSTY.
I was just wondering whether there's interest in setting up a domain for HECnet with one or more systems capable of bridging SMTP-to-MAIL-11.
Out of curiosity, I took a look to see whether domains like hec.net or hecnet.{com,net,org} were available, and as expected, they weren't. That kind of burst my bubble a bit. :-)
--Marc
Check out the following for all the details. http://rancourt.tripod.com/default.htm
I personally prefer the VAX/VMS version to Telengard on my Commodore 64. Though I spent a lot of time playing the C64 version when my VAX was down.
:-)
Zane
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009, Sampsa Laine wrote:
DND is a RPG of some kind? Multiplayer? I'll have to check it out.
On a somewhat related note, there's a really nifty ANSI backgammon game on B4BBS - I would love a game if anyone else is up for it.
Being a PC-ANSI BBS, you need a very specific terminal emulator, a VT* won't work unfortunately. I've got a Flash client set up on the B4BBS site, though at:
http://sampsa.com/b4bbs/
Sampsa
On 20 Oct 2009, at 00:01, Zane H. Healy wrote:
On PDXVAX the GUEST login should have access to the following. I should
have more up there... My main use for PDXVAX is to play DND. :-)
Zane
$ dir games:[000000]
Directory GAMES:[000000]
ARCHIVE.DIR;1 BATTLESTAR.EXE;1 DND.DIR;1 DND2.DIR;1 DUNGDRAG.DIR;1 GAL-TRADER.DIR;1
Total of 6 files.
$
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, Sampsa Laine wrote:
What games are on offer across HECnet?
CHIMPY at the moment offers the TETRIS login, wondering what else is out there.
DND is a RPG of some kind? Multiplayer? I'll have to check it out.
On a somewhat related note, there's a really nifty ANSI backgammon game on B4BBS - I would love a game if anyone else is up for it.
Being a PC-ANSI BBS, you need a very specific terminal emulator, a VT* won't work unfortunately. I've got a Flash client set up on the B4BBS site, though at:
http://sampsa.com/b4bbs/
Sampsa
On 20 Oct 2009, at 00:01, Zane H. Healy wrote:
On PDXVAX the GUEST login should have access to the following. I should
have more up there... My main use for PDXVAX is to play DND. :-)
Zane
$ dir games:[000000]
Directory GAMES:[000000]
ARCHIVE.DIR;1 BATTLESTAR.EXE;1 DND.DIR;1 DND2.DIR;1 DUNGDRAG.DIR;1 GAL-TRADER.DIR;1
Total of 6 files.
$
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, Sampsa Laine wrote:
What games are on offer across HECnet?
CHIMPY at the moment offers the TETRIS login, wondering what else is out there.
On PDXVAX the GUEST login should have access to the following. I should
have more up there... My main use for PDXVAX is to play DND. :-)
Zane
$ dir games:[000000]
Directory GAMES:[000000]
ARCHIVE.DIR;1 BATTLESTAR.EXE;1 DND.DIR;1 DND2.DIR;1 DUNGDRAG.DIR;1 GAL-TRADER.DIR;1
Total of 6 files.
$
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, Sampsa Laine wrote:
What games are on offer across HECnet?
CHIMPY at the moment offers the TETRIS login, wondering what else is out there.
Yup, that would work too - INFO.TXT for humans, HECNET.TXT contains machine-readable information for one or more nodes?
Sampsa
On 19 Oct 2009, at 20:31, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Nice INFO.TXT
I think it might be an idea to keep it that way.
Maybe have another file for possibly machine use then?
Johnny
Sampsa Laine wrote:
Ok, I get your point but I just thought that if I took my current INFO.TXT file from CHIMPY say:
Welcome to CHIMPY::, part of the SAMPSACOM network.
Currently active users for email include:
SAMPSA
DAVIDSON
ARI
We offer the follow guest logons:
ACCOUNT - Use this to request an account on CHIMPY::
B4BBS - Gateway to the SAMPSACOM Bulletin Board System, B4BBS.
TETRIS - Awesome VT100 tetris game.
Thank you,
Sampsa Laine (CHIMPY::SAMPSA)
and then added a single line of information meant for the list generator after that, it would a) not visually affect the human reader and b) provide the relevant information for the list generator. Your format works as well, of course, but is more visually significant.
Also, whilst this is a almost irrelevant point, parsing a simple field/separator piece of text is a tiny bit more trivial than your format.
Sampsa
On 19 Oct 2009, at 19:54, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Sampsa Laine wrote:
Guys, the reason I suggested a one line format was that I thought it would just sit at the end of a human readable file. We could have a second info file that is machine readable.
How did you think that one-liner would be created, if not by a human?
So why not have the whole file human readable, and human writeable.
After all, computers should try to accomodate human peculiarities, and
not vice versa. :-)
Johnny
On 19 Oct 2009, at 16:58, Brian Hechinger wrote:
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 05:45:27PM +0200, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Such as (just as an example):
======
HOST: MIM
HARDWARE: E11 (PDP-11/74)
OS: RSX-11M-PLUS V4.6
LOCATION: UPPSALA, SWEDEN
MANAGER: Johnny Billquist
EMAIL: bqt at update.uu.se <mailto:bqt at update.uu.se>
EMAIL: MIM::BILLQUIST
======
Keep the format simple, and very relaxed. Let software figure out if
they can do anything with it or not.
Uppercase, lowercase, free flowing text. Just keep the tags standard to
start with. Maybe we can have some tags with a more formalized value, if
needed, such as a POS: value with LAT/LONG if people want to add that?
Hmm, that looks a LOT like an LDIF file. :)
-brian
--
"Coding in C is like sending a 3 year old to do groceries. You gotta
tell them exactly what you want or you'll end up with a cupboard full of
pop tarts and pancake mix." -- IRC User (http://www.bash.org/?841435)
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se> || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Since I live in Switzerland now, I have a long trip to check. :-)
But I'll try asking some questions to relevant people.
Johnny
Mark Abene wrote:
While we're on the subject, PAMINA is unreachable via telnet, and I
haven't been able to telnet into TINA in almost 2 weeks. Any idea
what's been happening at update? I miss TINA's othello. :)
Thanks,
Mark
Johnny Billquist wrote:
Oh, you want updates? :-)
Let's see...
FNATTE have been decomissioned for good, I think.
PONDUS is now an 11/93 with 4 MB.
PAMINA is also KLH-10
Johnny
Bob Armstrong wrote:
Where is PDXVAX still noted as a 4000/VLC?
Well, on my list for one.
http://www.sparetimegizmos.com/Downloads/DCN%20Node%20List.pdf
Nobody sent me any corrections ...
Bob
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Nice INFO.TXT
I think it might be an idea to keep it that way.
Maybe have another file for possibly machine use then?
Johnny
Sampsa Laine wrote:
Ok, I get your point but I just thought that if I took my current INFO.TXT file from CHIMPY say:
Welcome to CHIMPY::, part of the SAMPSACOM network.
Currently active users for email include:
SAMPSA
DAVIDSON
ARI
We offer the follow guest logons:
ACCOUNT - Use this to request an account on CHIMPY::
B4BBS - Gateway to the SAMPSACOM Bulletin Board System, B4BBS.
TETRIS - Awesome VT100 tetris game.
Thank you,
Sampsa Laine (CHIMPY::SAMPSA)
and then added a single line of information meant for the list generator after that, it would a) not visually affect the human reader and b) provide the relevant information for the list generator. Your format works as well, of course, but is more visually significant.
Also, whilst this is a almost irrelevant point, parsing a simple field/separator piece of text is a tiny bit more trivial than your format.
Sampsa
On 19 Oct 2009, at 19:54, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Sampsa Laine wrote:
Guys, the reason I suggested a one line format was that I thought it would just sit at the end of a human readable file. We could have a second info file that is machine readable.
How did you think that one-liner would be created, if not by a human?
So why not have the whole file human readable, and human writeable.
After all, computers should try to accomodate human peculiarities, and
not vice versa. :-)
Johnny
On 19 Oct 2009, at 16:58, Brian Hechinger wrote:
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 05:45:27PM +0200, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Such as (just as an example):
======
HOST: MIM
HARDWARE: E11 (PDP-11/74)
OS: RSX-11M-PLUS V4.6
LOCATION: UPPSALA, SWEDEN
MANAGER: Johnny Billquist
EMAIL: bqt at update.uu.se <mailto:bqt at update.uu.se>
EMAIL: MIM::BILLQUIST
======
Keep the format simple, and very relaxed. Let software figure out if
they can do anything with it or not.
Uppercase, lowercase, free flowing text. Just keep the tags standard to
start with. Maybe we can have some tags with a more formalized value, if
needed, such as a POS: value with LAT/LONG if people want to add that?
Hmm, that looks a LOT like an LDIF file. :)
-brian
--
"Coding in C is like sending a 3 year old to do groceries. You gotta
tell them exactly what you want or you'll end up with a cupboard full of
pop tarts and pancake mix." -- IRC User (http://www.bash.org/?841435)
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se> || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
