Fixed.
On 21 Sep 2010, at 17:42, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Guilty as charged. I was experimenting with my end of the bridge a couple of months ago, and commented out some lines that wasn't active at the time. You were among them, and I haven't turned them on again afterward. Sorry. Fixed in a few seconds...
Johnny
On 2010-09-21 23:37, Mark Wickens wrote:
Hi Guys,
My link to MIM via the bridge program isn't currently working, and I
can't work out why.
Any ideas?
I turned debugging on the bridge and got the following output:
Adding router ''local''. bfffcd18:79
Adding router ''update''. 1913ee82:4711
Adding DECnet bridge local.
Trying to match local
Matching against: local
Found match: local == local
Adding DECnet bridge update.
Trying to match update
Matching against: local
Matching against: update
Found match: update == update
Adding LAT bridge local.
Trying to match local
Matching against: local
Found match: local == local
Adding LAT bridge update.
Trying to match update
Matching against: local
Matching against: update
Found match: update == update
Host table:
0: local 0.0.0.0:0 (Rx: 0 Tx: 0 (Drop rx: 0)) Active: 1 Throttle: 0(000)
1: update 130.238.19.25:4711 (Rx: 0 Tx: 0 (Drop rx: 0)) Active: 1
Throttle: 0(000)
Hash of known destinations:
Adding new hash entry. Port is 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Adding new hash entry. Port is 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
I'm still down too....
Sampsa
On 21 Sep 2010, at 17:42, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Guilty as charged. I was experimenting with my end of the bridge a couple of months ago, and commented out some lines that wasn't active at the time. You were among them, and I haven't turned them on again afterward. Sorry. Fixed in a few seconds...
Johnny
On 2010-09-21 23:37, Mark Wickens wrote:
Hi Guys,
My link to MIM via the bridge program isn't currently working, and I
can't work out why.
Any ideas?
I turned debugging on the bridge and got the following output:
Adding router ''local''. bfffcd18:79
Adding router ''update''. 1913ee82:4711
Adding DECnet bridge local.
Trying to match local
Matching against: local
Found match: local == local
Adding DECnet bridge update.
Trying to match update
Matching against: local
Matching against: update
Found match: update == update
Adding LAT bridge local.
Trying to match local
Matching against: local
Found match: local == local
Adding LAT bridge update.
Trying to match update
Matching against: local
Matching against: update
Found match: update == update
Host table:
0: local 0.0.0.0:0 (Rx: 0 Tx: 0 (Drop rx: 0)) Active: 1 Throttle: 0(000)
1: update 130.238.19.25:4711 (Rx: 0 Tx: 0 (Drop rx: 0)) Active: 1
Throttle: 0(000)
Hash of known destinations:
Adding new hash entry. Port is 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Adding new hash entry. Port is 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Guilty as charged. I was experimenting with my end of the bridge a couple of months ago, and commented out some lines that wasn't active at the time. You were among them, and I haven't turned them on again afterward. Sorry. Fixed in a few seconds...
Johnny
On 2010-09-21 23:37, Mark Wickens wrote:
Hi Guys,
My link to MIM via the bridge program isn't currently working, and I
can't work out why.
Any ideas?
I turned debugging on the bridge and got the following output:
Adding router ''local''. bfffcd18:79
Adding router ''update''. 1913ee82:4711
Adding DECnet bridge local.
Trying to match local
Matching against: local
Found match: local == local
Adding DECnet bridge update.
Trying to match update
Matching against: local
Matching against: update
Found match: update == update
Adding LAT bridge local.
Trying to match local
Matching against: local
Found match: local == local
Adding LAT bridge update.
Trying to match update
Matching against: local
Matching against: update
Found match: update == update
Host table:
0: local 0.0.0.0:0 (Rx: 0 Tx: 0 (Drop rx: 0)) Active: 1 Throttle: 0(000)
1: update 130.238.19.25:4711 (Rx: 0 Tx: 0 (Drop rx: 0)) Active: 1
Throttle: 0(000)
Hash of known destinations:
Adding new hash entry. Port is 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Adding new hash entry. Port is 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Hi Guys,
My link to MIM via the bridge program isn't currently working, and I
can't work out why.
Any ideas?
I turned debugging on the bridge and got the following output:
Adding router ''local''. bfffcd18:79
Adding router ''update''. 1913ee82:4711
Adding DECnet bridge local.
Trying to match local
Matching against: local
Found match: local == local
Adding DECnet bridge update.
Trying to match update
Matching against: local
Matching against: update
Found match: update == update
Adding LAT bridge local.
Trying to match local
Matching against: local
Found match: local == local
Adding LAT bridge update.
Trying to match update
Matching against: local
Matching against: update
Found match: update == update
Host table:
0: local 0.0.0.0:0 (Rx: 0 Tx: 0 (Drop rx: 0)) Active: 1 Throttle: 0(000)
1: update 130.238.19.25:4711 (Rx: 0 Tx: 0 (Drop rx: 0)) Active: 1
Throttle: 0(000)
Hash of known destinations:
Adding new hash entry. Port is 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Adding new hash entry. Port is 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
Setting existing hash to bridge 0
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Jason Stevens <neozeed at gmail.com> wrote:
One thing I noticed on my 'glorious' time warner connection (that's all they
have here) is that with all my equipment set to auto detect I was getting
less then 1MB on my 'high speed' connection.
But forcing my router to 100MB half duplex gets me 45MB in bursts.....
Sometimes it's worth exploring options on those wan links, but you'd need to
break into the hotel system to do so....
Not that I'd ever do something like that....
What is more annoying is that all the TCP/UDP port filtering is done at the
ISP level.. I have to buy a tunnel out from Sweden to get full IP access...
now how's that for a joke?
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Gregg,
That might be true but I'm miles out of DC in VA.
If internet access (and their rooms are cool too) is important to you* and
for some god-forsaken reason you need to be stuck in this suburban hellhole
for business, stay at Sierra:
Hotel Sierra in Sterling, Virginia
45520 Dulles Plaza
Sterling, VA 20166
1703/435-9002 or 1-800-474-3772, http://www.hotel-sierra.com/
Sampsa
* I was seriously getting 14-20 mbps down. It's a cool hotel anyway, only
problem is the bar only had beer and wine. License issue. Oh and it's in the
middle of suburban industrial park hell - everything is fake and 20 miles
apart from each other, and I have no car.
On 19 Sep 2010, at 15:40, Gregg Levine wrote:
Incidentally all hotels in the DC area are stuck with that because the
Feds insist on abusing the networks where they are centrally located.
It gets better closer to NYC, by the time you're staying in a NJ hotel
you're getting closer to your home's settings.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
Hello!
Jason, do what I do. Complain. The bird behind TWCNY may be something
of a fritter head but he does listen to complaints. I've been offered
that service as part of their triple play game, I turned it down
because I don't trust their technicians to understand things
concerning different operating systems play properly. AT&T now Covad
entirely does understand things up to a point. (Where that is, is
something for later.)
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
Also, drove around (in a cab) DC a bit last night, it really has the feeling of a New Rome architecturally. Very imposing, grandiose and believable.
Met a lovely guy, physicist working on some missile guidance systems etc, obviously never been anywhere awful like Algeria etc and he believed, sincerely, that America can bring peace, democracy and Disney movies to the whole world, i.e. that the Pax Americana is achievable, sort of a modern Pax Romana.
I wanted to point out that the Romans solved their Middle Eastern problems by nailing 5000 people to the walls of Jerusalem but didn't have the heart or how Carthage ended up :)
Sampsa
One thing I noticed on my 'glorious' time warner connection (that's all they have here) is that with all my equipment set to auto detect I was getting less then 1MB on my 'high speed' connection.
But forcing my router to 100MB half duplex gets me 45MB in bursts.....
Sometimes it's worth exploring options on those wan links, but you'd need to break into the hotel system to do so....
Not that I'd ever do something like that....
What is more annoying is that all the TCP/UDP port filtering is done at the ISP level.. I have to buy a tunnel out from Sweden to get full IP access... now how's that for a joke?
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Gregg,
That might be true but I'm miles out of DC in VA.
If internet access (and their rooms are cool too) is important to you* and for some god-forsaken reason you need to be stuck in this suburban hellhole for business, stay at Sierra:
Hotel Sierra in Sterling, Virginia
45520 Dulles Plaza
Sterling, VA 20166
1703/435-9002 or 1-800-474-3772, http://www.hotel-sierra.com/
Sampsa
* I was seriously getting 14-20 mbps down. It's a cool hotel anyway, only problem is the bar only had beer and wine. License issue. Oh and it's in the middle of suburban industrial park hell - everything is fake and 20 miles apart from each other, and I have no car.
On 19 Sep 2010, at 15:40, Gregg Levine wrote:
>
> Incidentally all hotels in the DC area are stuck with that because the
> Feds insist on abusing the networks where they are centrally located.
> It gets better closer to NYC, by the time you're staying in a NJ hotel
> you're getting closer to your home's settings.
> -----
> Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
> "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
Gregg,
That might be true but I'm miles out of DC in VA.
If internet access (and their rooms are cool too) is important to you* and for some god-forsaken reason you need to be stuck in this suburban hellhole for business, stay at Sierra:
Hotel Sierra in Sterling, Virginia
45520 Dulles Plaza
Sterling, VA 20166
1703/435-9002 or 1-800-474-3772, http://www.hotel-sierra.com/
Sampsa
* I was seriously getting 14-20 mbps down. It's a cool hotel anyway, only problem is the bar only had beer and wine. License issue. Oh and it's in the middle of suburban industrial park hell - everything is fake and 20 miles apart from each other, and I have no car.
On 19 Sep 2010, at 15:40, Gregg Levine wrote:
Incidentally all hotels in the DC area are stuck with that because the
Feds insist on abusing the networks where they are centrally located.
It gets better closer to NYC, by the time you're staying in a NJ hotel
you're getting closer to your home's settings.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
The last hotel had like 14-20 mbps, I think they must've had fibre or
something. Who the fuck buys a T1 anyway?
Get some DSL lines, a load balancing router and bob = uncle. This is not
rocket surgery.
Anyway, I think what largely happened in the US-sucks-at-internet case is
the first-to-move-inertia: "OK, we got something new a cool, look it works".
This was ok in 1996. Not so good now.
And don't give me the crap about geographical / demographics (like the
telcos do), I can get an ADSL2+ line (which depending on length of copper
can drop to like 2 megs, but should be at least 4) in Lapland, 100 megs in
the major towns. And 7 meg 3G almost everywhere, including weird middle of
forest places in Finland.
Universal internet access has been declared a human right by the European
Parliament, so the telcos are getting a bit stressed....:)
The US govt method of dealing with telcos is wrong: you dont GIVE them money
to build shit, you threaten to pull their license if they dont do universal
service / build shit by date X. Of course, then the telco lobbyist would
give the money to someone else.*
Sampsa
* Don't get me started on how I think the lobbyist system is killing
democracy and the little guy. At least when I visit the Middle East, they're
honest about bribes - but there's no democracy and n one gives a shit about
the little guy.
On 19 Sep 2010, at 15:04, Jason Stevens wrote:
Welcome to America... And yes, our internet speeds are a joke. I think we
are number 17 world wide and falling?
The telcos can give you a massive laundry list of excuses why they suck, but
they've all taken massive amounts of government money to fix it, and of
course like any good oligarchy they are not fixing anything, except prices.
I'm still blown away from a trip to Japan some FIVE years ago when I had to
download Visual Studio at the MSDN site, and it completed before I even had
time to get out of my chair for a coffee break....
Like a lot of things here, since the majority of people don't get any
international exposure, we don't know how badly we are being screwed when it
comes to just about everything...
Just look at all the HFCS in our "food", or hell go to McDonnalds and pick
up some chicken nuggets, and compare/contrast what the same company sells
here and in the UK.
I could go on and on, but nothing will change...
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
I've been moved to a hotel with "high speed" internet access that is
slower than the pile of crap I used in Beirut.
Thus SSHng into my boxes is painful, but can be done if absolutely
necessary.
If you want to read more about these service provider clowns, go to:
http://sampsa.com/2010/09/19/guesttek-suck-avoid-hotels-that-use-them/
Hello!
No need to go on. Sampsa I stayed in a series of these crappy places
during a month of adventures posing as a vacation, about two years
ago.
Actually Jason we are now 16. The 17 pose went to the Russians. It
seems their telecom infrastructure is so bad, it doesn't creak but it
will behave strangely.
Incidentally all hotels in the DC area are stuck with that because the
Feds insist on abusing the networks where they are centrally located.
It gets better closer to NYC, by the time you're staying in a NJ hotel
you're getting closer to your home's settings.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
The last hotel had like 14-20 mbps, I think they must've had fibre or something. Who the fuck buys a T1 anyway?
Get some DSL lines, a load balancing router and bob = uncle. This is not rocket surgery.
Anyway, I think what largely happened in the US-sucks-at-internet case is the first-to-move-inertia: "OK, we got something new a cool, look it works". This was ok in 1996. Not so good now.
And don't give me the crap about geographical / demographics (like the telcos do), I can get an ADSL2+ line (which depending on length of copper can drop to like 2 megs, but should be at least 4) in Lapland, 100 megs in the major towns. And 7 meg 3G almost everywhere, including weird middle of forest places in Finland.
Universal internet access has been declared a human right by the European Parliament, so the telcos are getting a bit stressed....:)
The US govt method of dealing with telcos is wrong: you dont GIVE them money to build shit, you threaten to pull their license if they dont do universal service / build shit by date X. Of course, then the telco lobbyist would give the money to someone else.*
Sampsa
* Don't get me started on how I think the lobbyist system is killing democracy and the little guy. At least when I visit the Middle East, they're honest about bribes - but there's no democracy and n one gives a shit about the little guy.
On 19 Sep 2010, at 15:04, Jason Stevens wrote:
Welcome to America... And yes, our internet speeds are a joke. I think we are number 17 world wide and falling?
The telcos can give you a massive laundry list of excuses why they suck, but they've all taken massive amounts of government money to fix it, and of course like any good oligarchy they are not fixing anything, except prices.
I'm still blown away from a trip to Japan some FIVE years ago when I had to download Visual Studio at the MSDN site, and it completed before I even had time to get out of my chair for a coffee break....
Like a lot of things here, since the majority of people don't get any international exposure, we don't know how badly we are being screwed when it comes to just about everything...
Just look at all the HFCS in our "food", or hell go to McDonnalds and pick up some chicken nuggets, and compare/contrast what the same company sells here and in the UK.
I could go on and on, but nothing will change...
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
I've been moved to a hotel with "high speed" internet access that is slower than the pile of crap I used in Beirut.
Thus SSHng into my boxes is painful, but can be done if absolutely necessary.
If you want to read more about these service provider clowns, go to:
http://sampsa.com/2010/09/19/guesttek-suck-avoid-hotels-that-use-them/
