Has anyone ever run SIMH out of NetBSD? I'm curious as to how to link the Ethernet to the LAN device (ra0) on my D410 board.
It fails if I use:
attach xq ra0
OR
attach xq /dev/ra0
So not sure what to assign it to...
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On 30 Jun 2011, at 09:05, Fausto Saporito <fausap at libero.it> wrote:
Hello,
the TCPIP package is on the CD, and you have to install after the installation.
Before, you have to change some system parameters.
A good guide is http://www.wherry.com/gadgets/retrocomputing/vax-simh.html
Here you can find all the instructions to set up your sistem.
Fausto
Guys, I feel like such an idiot. I was following that self same tutorial to bootstrap SIMH and OpenVMS 7.3 - I didn't realise it went on that far. Epic FAIL ;)
See I told you it was too early!
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On 30 Jun 2011, at 08:38, Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk> wrote:
See these instructions for details on what you need to do: http://www.wherry.com/gadgets/retrocomputing/vax-simh.html
Regards, Mark.
Hello,
the TCPIP package is on the CD, and you have to install after the installation.
Before, you have to change some system parameters.
A good guide is http://www.wherry.com/gadgets/retrocomputing/vax-simh.html
Here you can find all the instructions to set up your sistem.
Fausto
2011/6/30 Mark Benson <md.benson at gmail.com>:
Hi guys.
(apologies if this arrives twice - it's way too early in the morning and I got woken up even ealier!)
Still never got to fixing the DECW setup on the Alpha. Will sort that some time, maybe. Got to work out how to get files off the machine. :)
I have a second OpenVMS project now. I have an Atom D410PT system (Mini-ITX board) with a 16GB SSD and a SD card reader that runs NetBSD 5.1 and SIMH. I have successfully bootstrapped SIMH and OpenVMS 7.3-1 (I think it's -1 not sure, definitely 7.3) onto a virtual disk. So now I have a silent, power efficient machine with which to get up to speed on OpenVMS basics. I can also backup the disk images periodically so if I make a blunder it's a no-brainer to get the working system back.
First barrier I hit is TCP/IP. I don't think the 7.3 Install script ever asked me to install it. It asked for DECNet-Plus (which I declined) and DECNet-PhaseIV (which I gladly accepted) but no TCP/IP support. Did I do something wrong or is it a separate install on VAX? It was included with 8.3 Alpha.
When I try to:
SET DEF SYS$MANAGER
@TCP$CONFIG.COM
It barfs and says the file is not found. I have licences registered for UCX and UCX-IP-CLIENT. If TCP/IP was installed it would surely have just failed on a license issue if the license wasn't in place, though?
--
On a semi-related note I noticed something installing 7.3 that it said not to install DECNet-Plus if you want to use DECNet-PhaseIV. Since HECNet is PhaseIV I didn't install Plus on the VAX EMulator, but I *did* IIRC on the Alpha. Will the Alpha need a re-install or reconfiguration of some kind to run on HECNet?
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On a semi-related note I noticed something installing 7.3 that it said not to install DECNet-Plus if you want to use DECNet-PhaseIV. Since HECNet is PhaseIV I didn't install Plus on the VAX EMulator, but I *did* IIRC on the Alpha. Will the Alpha need a re-install or reconfiguration of some kind to run on HECNet?
You won't find many people who know how to configure DECNet-Plus - all the documentation for HECnet focusses on PhaseIV. Basically DECNet-Plus is overkill for most hobbyists and is substantially more difficult to configure and maintain.
You can uninstall Plus and install IV no problems.
Yesterday I installed 8.3 on my Alpha 1000A - this is the start of me building an Alpha based production-like system in the mold that Steve Davidson used on BUBBLE, my 4000/90.
Regards, Mark
On 30/06/11 08:25, Kari Uusim ki wrote:
On 30.6.2011 10:10, Mark Benson wrote:
Hi guys.
(apologies if this arrives twice - it's way too early in the morning and I got woken up even ealier!)
Still never got to fixing the DECW setup on the Alpha. Will sort that some time, maybe. Got to work out how to get files off the machine. :)
I have a second OpenVMS project now. I have an Atom D410PT system (Mini-ITX board) with a 16GB SSD and a SD card reader that runs NetBSD 5.1 and SIMH. I have successfully bootstrapped SIMH and OpenVMS 7.3-1 (I think it's -1 not sure, definitely 7.3) onto a virtual disk. So now I have a silent, power efficient machine with which to get up to speed on OpenVMS basics. I can also backup the disk images periodically so if I make a blunder it's a no-brainer to get the working system back.
First barrier I hit is TCP/IP. I don't think the 7.3 Install script ever asked me to install it. It asked for DECNet-Plus (which I declined) and DECNet-PhaseIV (which I gladly accepted) but no TCP/IP support. Did I do something wrong or is it a separate install on VAX? It was included with 8.3 Alpha.
When I try to:
SET DEF SYS$MANAGER
@TCP$CONFIG.COM
It barfs and says the file is not found. I have licences registered for UCX and UCX-IP-CLIENT. If TCP/IP was installed it would surely have just failed on a license issue if the license wasn't in place, though?
--
On a semi-related note I noticed something installing 7.3 that it said not to install DECNet-Plus if you want to use DECNet-PhaseIV. Since HECNet is PhaseIV I didn't install Plus on the VAX EMulator, but I *did* IIRC on the Alpha. Will the Alpha need a re-install or reconfiguration of some kind to run on HECNet?
Hi,
The last VAX-VMS version is V7.3. There has never been a V7.3-1 for VAX, but only for Alpha.
You need to install TCP/IP separately. It can be done from the V7.3 VAX-VMS media. That version isn't the latest so if you want to install the latest, you have to use a later SPL media.
Both DECnet-plus and DECnet Phase IV work similarly, but the configuration and management is quite different. DECnet-plus offers OSI and TCP/IP integration with DECnet (e.g. DECnet-over-TCP/IP).
You don't need to change your Alpha installation if you just want to run DECnet. If you did configure DECnet-plus for just DECnet use, you'll be fine with it.
I don't know if the DECnet-over-TCP/IP functionality will work with HECnet, because I haven't had time to test it, but pure DECnet should work fine.
Kari
See these instructions for details on what you need to do: http://www.wherry.com/gadgets/retrocomputing/vax-simh.html
Regards, Mark.
On 30.6.2011 10:10, Mark Benson wrote:
Hi guys.
(apologies if this arrives twice - it's way too early in the morning and I got woken up even ealier!)
Still never got to fixing the DECW setup on the Alpha. Will sort that some time, maybe. Got to work out how to get files off the machine. :)
I have a second OpenVMS project now. I have an Atom D410PT system (Mini-ITX board) with a 16GB SSD and a SD card reader that runs NetBSD 5.1 and SIMH. I have successfully bootstrapped SIMH and OpenVMS 7.3-1 (I think it's -1 not sure, definitely 7.3) onto a virtual disk. So now I have a silent, power efficient machine with which to get up to speed on OpenVMS basics. I can also backup the disk images periodically so if I make a blunder it's a no-brainer to get the working system back.
First barrier I hit is TCP/IP. I don't think the 7.3 Install script ever asked me to install it. It asked for DECNet-Plus (which I declined) and DECNet-PhaseIV (which I gladly accepted) but no TCP/IP support. Did I do something wrong or is it a separate install on VAX? It was included with 8.3 Alpha.
When I try to:
SET DEF SYS$MANAGER
@TCP$CONFIG.COM
It barfs and says the file is not found. I have licences registered for UCX and UCX-IP-CLIENT. If TCP/IP was installed it would surely have just failed on a license issue if the license wasn't in place, though?
--
On a semi-related note I noticed something installing 7.3 that it said not to install DECNet-Plus if you want to use DECNet-PhaseIV. Since HECNet is PhaseIV I didn't install Plus on the VAX EMulator, but I *did* IIRC on the Alpha. Will the Alpha need a re-install or reconfiguration of some kind to run on HECNet?
Hi,
The last VAX-VMS version is V7.3. There has never been a V7.3-1 for VAX, but only for Alpha.
You need to install TCP/IP separately. It can be done from the V7.3 VAX-VMS media. That version isn't the latest so if you want to install the latest, you have to use a later SPL media.
Both DECnet-plus and DECnet Phase IV work similarly, but the configuration and management is quite different. DECnet-plus offers OSI and TCP/IP integration with DECnet (e.g. DECnet-over-TCP/IP).
You don't need to change your Alpha installation if you just want to run DECnet. If you did configure DECnet-plus for just DECnet use, you'll be fine with it.
I don't know if the DECnet-over-TCP/IP functionality will work with HECnet, because I haven't had time to test it, but pure DECnet should work fine.
Kari
Hi guys.
(apologies if this arrives twice - it's way too early in the morning and I got woken up even ealier!)
Still never got to fixing the DECW setup on the Alpha. Will sort that some time, maybe. Got to work out how to get files off the machine. :)
I have a second OpenVMS project now. I have an Atom D410PT system (Mini-ITX board) with a 16GB SSD and a SD card reader that runs NetBSD 5.1 and SIMH. I have successfully bootstrapped SIMH and OpenVMS 7.3-1 (I think it's -1 not sure, definitely 7.3) onto a virtual disk. So now I have a silent, power efficient machine with which to get up to speed on OpenVMS basics. I can also backup the disk images periodically so if I make a blunder it's a no-brainer to get the working system back.
First barrier I hit is TCP/IP. I don't think the 7.3 Install script ever asked me to install it. It asked for DECNet-Plus (which I declined) and DECNet-PhaseIV (which I gladly accepted) but no TCP/IP support. Did I do something wrong or is it a separate install on VAX? It was included with 8.3 Alpha.
When I try to:
SET DEF SYS$MANAGER
@TCP$CONFIG.COM
It barfs and says the file is not found. I have licences registered for UCX and UCX-IP-CLIENT. If TCP/IP was installed it would surely have just failed on a license issue if the license wasn't in place, though?
--
On a semi-related note I noticed something installing 7.3 that it said not to install DECNet-Plus if you want to use DECNet-PhaseIV. Since HECNet is PhaseIV I didn't install Plus on the VAX EMulator, but I *did* IIRC on the Alpha. Will the Alpha need a re-install or reconfiguration of some kind to run on HECNet?
--
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Mark,
Please post the file:
SYS$SPECIFIC:[SYSEXE]MODPARAMS.DAT
Then
$ DEFINE/USER SYS$OUTPUT MEMORY.TMP
$ SHOW MEM/FILE/FULL/ALL/PAGE
Then
$ DEFINE/USER/SYS$OUTPUT DECW.TMP
$ SHOW LOG DECW$*
Post the files MEMORY.TMP and DECW.TMP or send the whole thing to me
directly and I'll see what I can come up with.
If you have IP or DECnet running I can come in and look directly.
Regards,
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Mark Benson
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 18:52
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Introduction
On 18 Jun 2011, at 09:21, H Vlems wrote:
Now I have a couple of VMS systems running which greatly improves my
aging memory ;-) And will keep my electricity meter spinning a lot
faster too.
Sorry about the slow response, I have been doing a lot of RTFM and
trying to get used to the system. I also bought a HP zx6000 Itanium
workstation, but that's an aside for later ;)
The contents of the DECW$PRIVATE_SERVER-SETUP.COM file:
$ set verify
$ decw$server_page_file== 160000
$ decw$xsize_in_pixels == 1280
$ decw$ysize_in_pixels == 1024
$ define/exec/system/nolog decw$server_pixel_depth 24 $
define/exec/system/nolog decw$server_refresh_rate 75 $ set noverify
I got back to this eventually today. Still no luck. If I use your config
as you printed it it still crashes the whole machine dead at boot and I
have to enter a minimal boot and pull the file out to get any luck
booting again. Same as before.
I don't get what's goin on. :(
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On 18 Jun 2011, at 09:21, H Vlems wrote:
Now I have a couple of VMS systems running which greatly improves my aging
memory ;-) And will keep my electricity meter spinning a lot faster too.
Sorry about the slow response, I have been doing a lot of RTFM and trying to get used to the system. I also bought a HP zx6000 Itanium workstation, but that's an aside for later ;)
The contents of the DECW$PRIVATE_SERVER-SETUP.COM file:
$ set verify
$ decw$server_page_file== 160000
$ decw$xsize_in_pixels == 1280
$ decw$ysize_in_pixels == 1024
$ define/exec/system/nolog decw$server_pixel_depth 24
$ define/exec/system/nolog decw$server_refresh_rate 75
$ set noverify
I got back to this eventually today. Still no luck. If I use your config as you printed it it still crashes the whole machine dead at boot and I have to enter a minimal boot and pull the file out to get any luck booting again. Same as before.
I don't get what's goin on. :(
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On 17 Jun 2011, at 12:00, Mark Wickens wrote:
On 17/06/11 11:55, Mark Benson wrote:
Even if you don't recreate the license database every year, as far as I can see the license file is just a (DCL?) script that runs 'LICENSE REGISTER' for each License you are granted. 5 mins and a decent editor and you could easily create one to rip out each license by name too, right? Can LICENSE do that? I think it can IIRC.
IIRC the issue is when you start getting multiple licenses for the same product name, as you then have to differentiate them by application date/expired status.
There was a DCL procedure on either comp.os.vms or VMS Hobbyist site which you could run against any database and it would remove all expired licenses. That's the lazy approach. I like it ;)
Apparently you can purge history records inthe License Database 9after backing it up, of course) using:
LICENSE DELETE /STATUS=EXTINCT *
Is that what we were looking for to remove expired licenses?
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