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Can we hook this up to a VAX or something?

by jeep＠scshome.net

It is a RX01. The front end runs RT-11 on an 11/03. -Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Johnny Billquist Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 19:26 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Can we hook this up to a VAX or something? On 2011-08-23 19:16, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote: Correct, an RX02 floppy with a formatted capacity of 512 kB IIRC. Hmm. I thought it was an RX01. Capacity, however, is 128K for RX01 and 256K for RX02. Johnny ------Origineel bericht------ Van: Paul_Koning at Dell.com Afzender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: RE: [HECnet] Can we hook this up to a VAX or something? Verzonden: 23 augustus 2011 19:11 Hm... didn't the 780 use an 8 inch floppy for console boot device? paul -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Sampsa Laine Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 1:09 PM To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Can we hook this up to a VAX or something? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-IBM-6360-8-Disk-Drive-Displaywriter- /110732734202?pt=UK_VintageComputing_RL&hash=item19c82f6efa#ht_861wt_1 145 Verzonden vanaf mijn draadloze BlackBerry(r)-toestel -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

14 years, 7 months

How to turn off SYSBOOT> prompt on rx2600

by sampsa＠mac.com

So if I add my primary disk as option 1, with no flags, it'll automagically boot it? Sampsa On 24 Aug 2011, at 00:34, Dan Williams wrote: Hi, There's a section on booting in the manual : http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/83final/ba322_90045/apbs05.html This will let you edit the boot options. $ @SYS$MANAGER:BOOT_OPTIONS.COM Dan On 24 Aug 2011, at 00:26, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: But there's no magic "set EFI boot flags" to this command from VMS? Begin forwarded message: From: Joe Ferraro <jferraro at gmail.com> Date: 23 August 2011 20:35:31 GMT+01:00 To: hecnet at update.uu.se Subject: Re: [HECnet] How to turn off SYSBOOT> prompt on rx2600 Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Sampsa, I'm not sitting in front of a machine, but I think you may set boot options from: SYS$UPDATE:BOOT_OPTIONS.COM Forgive me if this is incorrect... I think you may set flags there as well... but its been a while... On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: Is there any way to do this from VMS? Sampsa On 23 Aug 2011, at 20:15, Joe Ferraro wrote: I've just used the following for [no]min boot IA64... $! CONVERSATIONAL BOOT $! IA64 EFI> set vms_flags 0,1 $! non-volatile EFI> exit $! boot the server SYSBOOT> SET WRITESYSPARAMS 0 $! don't boot min every-time SYSBOOT> USE DEFAULT SYSBOOT> SET STARTUP_P1 "MIN" $! use "" to revert to default SYSBOOT> CONTINUE On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Joe Ferraro <jferraro at gmail.com> wrote: Sampsa, I believe you can SYSBOOT> SET STARTUP_P1 "" SYSBOOT> CONTINUE to clear the flags... Joe On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: How do I do this on an Itanium? Sampsa On 23 Aug 2011, at 19:58, Steve Davidson wrote: > Sampsa, > > Clear the boot flags. > > -Steve > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On > Behalf Of Sampsa Laine > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 14:50 > To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE > Subject: [HECnet] How to turn off SYSBOOT> prompt on rx2600 > > I've somehow managed to make my rx2600's VMS boot give me a SYSBOOT> > prompt every damn time. > > How do I turn this off? > > Sampsa > >

14 years, 7 months

Can we hook this up to a VAX or something?

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2011-08-23 20:10, Paul_Koning at Dell.com wrote: Oh no. A TU58 is a joke device that connects via a UART; the driver for it is a pile of software that speaks a packet protocol over that UART to send/receive the data. Indeed. And thus, the only thing you need on your computer, to interface to a TU58, is a serial port. The TU56 is a classic PDP-11 style DMA device, hooked to a Unibus interface. It looks somewhat like an old style disk interface (like the RK05 or RP04) except that you first had to seek to the required block number (by doing read block number operations until the right number shows up). Also, a TU56 is reliable, unlike a TU58. And fast... Don't forget that part! ;-) The TU58 is horrible...

14 years, 7 months

How to turn off SYSBOOT> prompt on rx2600

by williams.dan＠gmail.com

Hi, There's a section on booting in the manual : http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/83final/ba322_90045/apbs05.html This will let you edit the boot options. $ @SYS$MANAGER:BOOT_OPTIONS.COM Dan On 24 Aug 2011, at 00:26, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: But there's no magic "set EFI boot flags" to this command from VMS? Begin forwarded message: From: Joe Ferraro <jferraro at gmail.com> Date: 23 August 2011 20:35:31 GMT+01:00 To: hecnet at update.uu.se Subject: Re: [HECnet] How to turn off SYSBOOT> prompt on rx2600 Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Sampsa, I'm not sitting in front of a machine, but I think you may set boot options from: SYS$UPDATE:BOOT_OPTIONS.COM Forgive me if this is incorrect... I think you may set flags there as well... but its been a while... On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: Is there any way to do this from VMS? Sampsa On 23 Aug 2011, at 20:15, Joe Ferraro wrote: I've just used the following for [no]min boot IA64... $! CONVERSATIONAL BOOT $! IA64 EFI> set vms_flags 0,1 $! non-volatile EFI> exit $! boot the server SYSBOOT> SET WRITESYSPARAMS 0 $! don't boot min every-time SYSBOOT> USE DEFAULT SYSBOOT> SET STARTUP_P1 "MIN" $! use "" to revert to default SYSBOOT> CONTINUE On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Joe Ferraro <jferraro at gmail.com> wrote: Sampsa, I believe you can SYSBOOT> SET STARTUP_P1 "" SYSBOOT> CONTINUE to clear the flags... Joe On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: How do I do this on an Itanium? Sampsa On 23 Aug 2011, at 19:58, Steve Davidson wrote: > Sampsa, > > Clear the boot flags. > > -Steve > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On > Behalf Of Sampsa Laine > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 14:50 > To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE > Subject: [HECnet] How to turn off SYSBOOT> prompt on rx2600 > > I've somehow managed to make my rx2600's VMS boot give me a SYSBOOT> > prompt every damn time. > > How do I turn this off? > > Sampsa > >

14 years, 7 months

Can we hook this up to a VAX or something?

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2011-08-23 19:59, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote: Interesting, that a TU56 was supported by VMS. How did that become possible? Is it because the driver for the TU58 also happened to work for the TU56, possibly assisted by some SYSGEN magic to configure UB vector and addresses? As other have said. There are no similarities between a TU56 and a TU58... Johnny ------Origineel bericht------ Van: Paul_Koning at Dell.com Afzender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: RE: [HECnet] Can we hook this up to a VAX or something? Verzonden: 23 augustus 2011 19:48 I can't remember whether the RK05 was supported by VMS? No, not AFAIK but the RL02 (either on an RL11 or the RB730) was. But did it work? There were some strange old devices that worked on VMS even though not "supported" -- the TU56 (real DECtape) comes to mind. paul Verzonden vanaf mijn draadloze BlackBerry -toestel -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

14 years, 7 months

Can we hook this up to a VAX or something?

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2011-08-23 19:41, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote: The console RX02 on the 780 wasn't "visible" to VMS. You'd need. MC SYSGEN CONNECT CONSOLE to make that happen. Right. Also, the console floppy on the 11/780 didn't sit on the "normal" Unibus. I don't know if the FE had an integrated floppy controller, but it might have been a small Qbus in there as well. I used a PDP-11/40 with RX02's but never actually seen such an interface on a VAX unibus. They were already going out of fashion when VAXen began to spread. Very useful to transfer data between systems; this was before ethernet was common, let alone affordable. An alternative was the RL02. Which became the load device for the PDP-11/23 console in the 8600/8650. Well, it's not a 11/23, but a T11 (the 11/23 uses the F11 chip). But yes, the 86x0 uses an RL02 for the FE. Much more convenient, since it can hold all of the system, and all of the diagnostics on one pack. With the 11/78x, you had to have a set of floppies, and running diagnostics means swapping floppies a lot. Also, the 86x0 have a Qbus, with a RLV12 controller in there. :-) And this disk is also not normally available from VMS, unless you connect it with SYSGEN. I can't remember whether the RK05 was supported by VMS? I don't think it was. Neither was the RK06/RK07, but I believe it shipped with a driver for those. Johnny Hans ------Origineel bericht------ Van: Bob Armstrong Afzender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: RE: [HECnet] Can we hook this up to a VAX or something? Verzonden: 23 augustus 2011 19:27 Correct, an RX02 floppy with a formatted capacity of 512 kB IIRC. Absolutely, on the 11/03 CFE. And any of the UNIBUS VAXen (730, 750, 780, etc) would directly support an RX01/02 on an RX211 interface. Such combinations were not unusual and were supported by VMS. I've got a 11/730 with an RX02 drive in the garage. Likewise any of the BI bus VAXen with a UBA could at least in theory do the same, though by that time 8" floppies were uncommon. Bob Verzonden vanaf mijn draadloze BlackBerry -toestel -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

14 years, 7 months

Can we hook this up to a VAX or something?

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2011-08-23 19:16, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote: Correct, an RX02 floppy with a formatted capacity of 512 kB IIRC. Hmm. I thought it was an RX01. Capacity, however, is 128K for RX01 and 256K for RX02. Johnny ------Origineel bericht------ Van: Paul_Koning at Dell.com Afzender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: RE: [HECnet] Can we hook this up to a VAX or something? Verzonden: 23 augustus 2011 19:11 Hm... didn't the 780 use an 8 inch floppy for console boot device? paul -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Sampsa Laine Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 1:09 PM To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Can we hook this up to a VAX or something? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-IBM-6360-8-Disk-Drive-Displaywriter-/1107… Verzonden vanaf mijn draadloze BlackBerry -toestel -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

14 years, 7 months

Fwd: [HECnet] How to turn off SYSBOOT> prompt on rx2600

by sampsa＠mac.com

But there's no magic "set EFI boot flags" to this command from VMS? Begin forwarded message: From: Joe Ferraro <jferraro at gmail.com> Date: 23 August 2011 20:35:31 GMT+01:00 To: hecnet at update.uu.se Subject: Re: [HECnet] How to turn off SYSBOOT> prompt on rx2600 Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Sampsa, I'm not sitting in front of a machine, but I think you may set boot options from: SYS$UPDATE:BOOT_OPTIONS.COM Forgive me if this is incorrect... I think you may set flags there as well... but its been a while... On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: Is there any way to do this from VMS? Sampsa On 23 Aug 2011, at 20:15, Joe Ferraro wrote: I've just used the following for [no]min boot IA64... $! CONVERSATIONAL BOOT $! IA64 EFI> set vms_flags 0,1 $! non-volatile EFI> exit $! boot the server SYSBOOT> SET WRITESYSPARAMS 0 $! don't boot min every-time SYSBOOT> USE DEFAULT SYSBOOT> SET STARTUP_P1 "MIN" $! use "" to revert to default SYSBOOT> CONTINUE On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Joe Ferraro <jferraro at gmail.com> wrote: Sampsa, I believe you can SYSBOOT> SET STARTUP_P1 "" SYSBOOT> CONTINUE to clear the flags... Joe On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: How do I do this on an Itanium? Sampsa On 23 Aug 2011, at 19:58, Steve Davidson wrote: > Sampsa, > > Clear the boot flags. > > -Steve > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On > Behalf Of Sampsa Laine > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 14:50 > To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE > Subject: [HECnet] How to turn off SYSBOOT> prompt on rx2600 > > I've somehow managed to make my rx2600's VMS boot give me a SYSBOOT> > prompt every damn time. > > How do I turn this off? > > Sampsa > >

14 years, 7 months

Can we hook this up to a VAX or something?

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2011-08-23 19:11, Paul_Koning at Dell.com wrote: Hm... didn't the 780 use an 8 inch floppy for console boot device? Yes it does. Johnny paul -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Sampsa Laine Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 1:09 PM To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Can we hook this up to a VAX or something? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-IBM-6360-8-Disk-Drive-Displaywriter-/1107… -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

14 years, 7 months

Can we hook this up to a VAX or something?

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2011-08-23 19:08, Sampsa Laine wrote: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-IBM-6360-8-Disk-Drive-Displaywriter-/1107… Not sure what you ask for. Hooking up an 8" floppy drive is not a problem at all, if you have an RX01 or RX02. Hooking something up with a totally different interface depends on you finding a controller for it. Magica have 8" floppies already, btw... Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

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