Dear All,
I'm in need of some suggestions to improve DECnet performance of a TOPS-10
monitor running on KLH10. I'd like a lot to hear from you even if you do not
know or run that specific system or configuration.
When used locally at the CTY (Console terminal), the system response is very
fast and smooth, so I'd tend to exclude emulator problems and such. Instead,
when used from a remotely connected terminal (e.g. from VMS via SET HOST),
it appears very sluggish: single character echo is very poor and output from
the system fits and starts all the time. Output from programs is very fast
for some hundreds lines, then stops briefly, then again appears almost
instantly, and so on, like in bursts.
Anyway, while the overall bulk data performance can be considered absolutely
acceptable, the char-by-char responsiveness, e.g. typing interactive
commands at the monitor prompt, is horrible: I type "D", "I", "R", and
nothing happens, then I type "E" and "DIRE" suddenly appears...
The TOPS-10 system has plenty of free core (both virtual and physical), free
disk space, and free CPU, so it shouldn't be an OS issue in itself.
Probably the most likely cause of this problem lies in some DECnet parameter
that needs some tweaking, but I do not know which one... Have you ever had
any experience with some ancient Digital OS having poor DECnet performance
as described? And how did you solve that, or at least improve it?
Here are some (maybe) interesting bits:
Request # 1; Show Executor Node Characteristics Completed
Executor Node = 1.1010 (DIECI)
Identification = DECnet-10 Version 4.0
Management Version = 4.0.0
Loop Count = 1
Loop Length = 127
Loop With = Mixed
Incoming Timer = 30
Outgoing Timer = 60
NSP Version = 4.0.0
Maximum Links = 65535
Delay Factor = 48
Delay Weight = 10
Inactivity Timer = 120
Retransmit Factor = 10
Routing Version = 2.0.0
Type = Nonrouting IV
Routing Timer = 600
Broadcast Routing Timer = 40
Maximum Address = 1023
Maximum Circuits = 20
Maximum Cost = 100
Maximum Hops = 16
Maximum Visits = 20
Maximum Broadcast Nonrouters = 64
Maximum Broadcast Routers = 32
Maximum Buffers = 80
Buffer Size = 576
Segment Buffer Size = 576
Request # 5; Show Line Characteristics Completed
Line = ETH-0
Receive Buffers = 6
Controller = Normal
Protocol = Ethernet
Hardware Address = AA 00 04 00 F2 07
Receive buffer size = 576
Request # 7; Show Circuit Characteristics Completed
Circuit = ETH-0
Cost = 1
Maximum Routers = 16
Router Priority = 5
Hello Timer = 90
Type = Ethernet
I'll be grateful for any suggestion! :)
G.
On 11-08-30 03:20 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
If you were to say crimp me a few a (3-4) of them, I would of course compensate by a Paypal payment to be used only for bottles of win of say over 30 euros?
Are 3 wire sufficient? Most of the ones I make, I only end up doing RX, TX, and GND, but I can do the handshaking lines if you want. The cable I have most of is 6 wire, but it's solid conductor, like telephone wire. Works well enough for these speeds/installations, though.
To be clear, let's agree on the cable specs:
MMJ - MMJ
RX, TX, GND
6' (2m) long enough?
Qty 4
As for $$, I find your suggestion ambiguous. (If you sent me 5Eu and told me to spend it on a 30Eu bottle of wine, it would fit.) So how about $25 Canadian + postage?
Before we get too excited, I'd better locate the connectors. Will confirm.
Cheers,
Phil
On 11-08-30 12:39 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Or other sane mechanism for getting a graphical console up on an AS800?
I want to add some controllers and drives to CHIMPY?
My server is not apparently getting along with the HECnet list.
I have a couple of dozen MMJ connectors in the shop, I believe. I could send you some, or we can talk about making up a cable. (I'd rather not be without my MMJ crimping tool.)
Best,
Phil
On 29/08/11 22:10, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote:
You mean
$ set time/cluster
or
$ mc sysgen
Set env/cluster
Do set time=new time
?
Yes,
There is a script given:
$ SYNCH_CLOCKS:
$ RUN SYS$SYSTEM:SYSMAN
$ SET ENVIRONMENT/CLUSTER
$ CONFIGURATION SET TIME
$ EXIT
$ WAIT 6:00:00
$ GOTO SYNCH_CLOCKS
Seems like a sensible thing to do in a clustered environment.
Regards, Mark.
Bind sets are hell to restore. Which is probably why Hoff is against them.
A RAID controller is a good idea: form shadow sets and stripe them. The Mylex 960 series can handdle RAID volumes up to 36 GB (IIRC). So you'd need another controller. Not all controllers are supported b VMS, e.g.: kZPCC.
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Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] VMS Bound Volume Sets...
Verzonden: 29 augustus 2011 20:25
On 29-8-2011 18:59, Mark Wickens wrote:
Anyone tried bound volume sets? I want 70GBs worth of data to appear
in one VMS device, but only have 36GB drives, so would like to span
data across two disks and form a logical drive.
Just wondered if anyone had any thoughts - Hoff seemed to think it was
a bad thing to try/do.
What about using a hardware RAID controller, a la Smart Array? (If it
is an AlphaServer or Integrity system of course, in this case.) I use
an SA6400 successfully to do that, in one of my rx2600s.
- MG
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You mean
$ set time/cluster
or
$ mc sysgen
Set env/cluster
Do set time=new time
?
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Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Noob question: Changing the Time Zone on my VMS boxes?
Verzonden: 29 augustus 2011 23:02
On 28/08/11 21:39, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote:
I forgot $ sho ti.
Which tells you what the system tme is
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Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Noob question: Changing the Time Zone on my VMS boxes?
Verzonden: 28 augustus 2011 20:41
On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 19:35:28 +0100, you wrote:
How do I change the time zone of a VMS box?
$ @SYS$MANAGER:UTC$TIME_SETUP :-)
Then you may also do the following:
$ @SYS$MANAGER:TCPIP$DEFINE_COMMANDS
$ NTPDATE<ntp.server.of.your.choice>
HTH,
G.
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I happened to be reading the SYSMAN manual earlier (as you do) and
noticed there is a command to synchronise time between boxes across a
network cluster.
Just one of those snippets of info that might be of interest now (or
sometime in the future).
Regards, Mark.
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On 28/08/11 21:39, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote:
I forgot $ sho ti.
Which tells you what the system tme is
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Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Noob question: Changing the Time Zone on my VMS boxes?
Verzonden: 28 augustus 2011 20:41
On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 19:35:28 +0100, you wrote:
How do I change the time zone of a VMS box?
$ @SYS$MANAGER:UTC$TIME_SETUP :-)
Then you may also do the following:
$ @SYS$MANAGER:TCPIP$DEFINE_COMMANDS
$ NTPDATE<ntp.server.of.your.choice>
HTH,
G.
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I happened to be reading the SYSMAN manual earlier (as you do) and noticed there is a command to synchronise time between boxes across a network cluster.
Just one of those snippets of info that might be of interest now (or sometime in the future).
Regards, Mark.
On 29-8-2011 18:59, Mark Wickens wrote:
Anyone tried bound volume sets? I want 70GBs worth of data to appear in one VMS device, but only have 36GB drives, so would like to span data across two disks and form a logical drive.
Just wondered if anyone had any thoughts - Hoff seemed to think it was a bad thing to try/do.
What about using a hardware RAID controller, a la Smart Array? (If it
is an AlphaServer or Integrity system of course, in this case.) I use
an SA6400 successfully to do that, in one of my rx2600s.
- MG
I forgot $ sho ti.
Which tells you what the system tme is
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Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Noob question: Changing the Time Zone on my VMS boxes?
Verzonden: 28 augustus 2011 20:41
On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 19:35:28 +0100, you wrote:
How do I change the time zone of a VMS box?
$ @SYS$MANAGER:UTC$TIME_SETUP :-)
Then you may also do the following:
$ @SYS$MANAGER:TCPIP$DEFINE_COMMANDS
$ NTPDATE <ntp.server.of.your.choice>
HTH,
G.
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