On 11/10/11 16:29, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Yup, those are 16 bit wide modules: http://www.trademoon.com/Product373313.aspx
On 11 Oct 2011, at 16:27, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Hi Sampsa, have you had any of the BA356 hooked up via a 16-bit/wide personality module?
Are the shelves blue or grey? Can you give me the model number of the shelves? Sorry for being picky, I need the ultrascsi versions...
I'm planning on posting that modem off today.
Mark.
On 10-10-2011 22:42, Mark Benson wrote:
On 10 Oct 2011, at 21:30, Mark Wickens wrote:
I was talking to someone at the DEC Legacy event about the erosion of DEC kit in Universities and Colleges after Microsoft's anti-trust law suit the settlement of which required Microsoft to give away copies of Windows.
DEC didn't follow suit.
Ironic that an anti-trust settlement against Microsoft just ended up with more people running Microsoft software, which locked them into Microsoft upgrade paths.
The same irony of Linux as the supposed 'free and open UNIX/-derivative'
doing the bidding of UNIX against Windows, where in the end Linux almost
exclusively destroyed perfectly good proprietary UNIX distributions (think
of IRIX) on the basis of alleged cost reduction, with Linux in the end
still mostly in the fringes and server niche, just like on day one.
(No, I don't consider Android a proper Linux. It's far too customized and
intertwined with proprietary supplements to be truly considered Linux. It
is not like people consider Mac OS X a typical BSD in that sense either.)
- MG
On 2011-10-12 21:27, Peter Lothberg wrote:
That was a different edition, though, called Bliss-11 and hosted on a
PDP-10.
BLISS-11 was also a differently language too, albeit slightly. When DEC
adopted BLISS they just had to change some of the syntax to make it their
own.
Likewise there was a BLISS-10 and a BLISS-36. And there was a BLISS-32
for VAXen, although AFAIK there was never a cross compiler for that version
and there was never a BLISS-10/11 equivalent for it. BLISS-32 was of
course used fairly extensively for VMS.
Bob
Bliss36 and Bliss32 for vaxen is different than bliss10.. The 32/36 compiler
is the same compiler with different backends..
Hmm. Are you saying that Bliss-36 ran on VMS?
Johnny
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|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
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That was a different edition, though, called Bliss-11 and hosted on a
PDP-10.
BLISS-11 was also a differently language too, albeit slightly. When DEC
adopted BLISS they just had to change some of the syntax to make it their
own.
Likewise there was a BLISS-10 and a BLISS-36. And there was a BLISS-32
for VAXen, although AFAIK there was never a cross compiler for that version
and there was never a BLISS-10/11 equivalent for it. BLISS-32 was of
course used fairly extensively for VMS.
Bob
Bliss36 and Bliss32 for vaxen is different than bliss10.. The 32/36 compiler
is the same compiler with different backends..
On 2011-10-11 17.16, Mark Wickens wrote:
I've been offered a very nice printer for the price of shipping. It's a
centronics based printer. I currently have an LA75 hooked up to a
DECserver 90M. Obviously MMJ/serial connection.
My question is - does OpenVMS support parallel printers? Would it be a
lot of work getting it to work natively without having to include
another box in the mix (ie, a linux box).
My brain has been trampled on with work today, something may come to me
yet...
Actually having said that, I guess a Centronics/Network interface would
do the trick at the very least.
The answer is yes, though.
But only for machines that actually have hardware parallel ports, such as Unibus machines with a LP11, or Q-bus machines with a LPV11.
No pizza-box VAXen, or more modern big models have parallel ports as far as I can remember.
(Of course I can be wrong...)
But even if you discover that such an interface exist, you also need to locate one to add to your machine in order to do this.
By the way, the LP11 interface is almost identical to Centronics. It's one signal (if I remember right), which have inverted levels, but otherwise it works just fine.
If you have a parallel interface, VMS makes it available as a device driver. The normal spooler tasks can make use of that interface just as well as a serial port. Makes no difference from the spooler task point of view. It's just an interface on which you send bytes.
Johnny
My question is - does OpenVMS support parallel printers?
Would it be a lot of work getting it to work natively without
having to include another box in the mix (ie, a linux box).
I've got some sort of a hp inkjet thing plugged into my
Alphaserver 800. It shows up as LRA0: I've added a postscript
option board to the printer which works in principle but it
is a little fiddly getting the settings right to ensure the
printer doesn't interpret the postscript as text. I keep
meaning to investigate DCPS.
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
Yup, those are 16 bit wide modules: http://www.trademoon.com/Product373313.aspx
On 11 Oct 2011, at 16:27, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Hi Sampsa, have you had any of the BA356 hooked up via a 16-bit/wide personality module?
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Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 11:17
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: [HECnet] Potentially stupid printer question...
I've been offered a very nice printer for the price of
shipping. It's a centronics based printer. I currently have
an LA75 hooked up to a DECserver 90M. Obviously MMJ/serial connection.
My question is - does OpenVMS support parallel printers?
Would it be a lot of work getting it to work natively without
having to include another box in the mix (ie, a linux box).
My brain has been trampled on with work today, something may
come to me yet...
Actually having said that, I guess a Centronics/Network
interface would do the trick at the very least.
Regards, Mark.
Mark,
I would pass on that one. While VAX platforms supported parallel
printers they were either DEC specific LP11-type (only BIG VAXen had
these interfaces) or they used something like a DECserver-250 over LAT.
Both worked well but what you have isn't that bad either and I would
stick with that.
I use one (1) LA75 and one (1) LA120 (DECwrite-III) via LAT and that
works just fine. The LA120 is 132 columns so printouts work great. The
laser printers can go over LAT if they have serial ports (one (1)
actually does), but mostly they run with HP JetDirect modules either
directly or via a UNIX box running CUPS.
-Steve
Not sure,
The part numbers are DS-BA35X-FA.
Sampsa
On 11 Oct 2011, at 16:13, Mark Wickens wrote:
Sampsa Laine wrote:
Gentlemen,
I've decided to get rid of some of my older DEC gear (mostly my stripped down Alphaserver 800) in order to raise money (I'm pretty skint at the moment), and to clear some space in my study so thought I'd offer it to the HECNET community first before ebaying it.
Whats' for sale:
Alphaserver 800 CPU (I believe it's 500 MHz)
1 GB memory kit (might be 2 GB, have to check) for an Alphaserver 800
3 x BA356 boxes with identity modules
A selection of 4, 9 and 18 GB drives in caddies ready for
4x4GB drives for an Alphaserver 800
KZPAC raid controllers (I think two of them)
An Alphaserver 800 in a non-working state, might be the power supply.
It has a working CDROM drive for loading software onto it.
Sampsa
Hi Sampsa, have you had any of the BA356 hooked up via a 16-bit/wide personality module?
I've been offered a very nice printer for the price of shipping. It's a centronics based printer. I currently have an LA75 hooked up to a DECserver 90M. Obviously MMJ/serial connection.
My question is - does OpenVMS support parallel printers? Would it be a lot of work getting it to work natively without having to include another box in the mix (ie, a linux box).
My brain has been trampled on with work today, something may come to me yet...
Actually having said that, I guess a Centronics/Network interface would do the trick at the very least.
Regards, Mark.
