On 2012-06-27 13:40, Steve Davidson wrote:
My original plan was to make the domain available for all to receive email with either:
<username>@hecnet.org or
<username>@<DECnet-nodename>.hecnet.org (much easier to do BTW)
The web address was (is) an after-thought.
So, what machine have you setup to do this?
(As a parenthesis, didn't someone do this a few years ago...?)
Johnny
-Steve
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From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE on behalf of Bob Armstrong
Sent: Tue 6/26/2012 22:06
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: RE: [HECnet] decnet.org
I actually own hecnet.org. That could be used. In fact it is today to a
limited extent already...
I hope this doesn't start a "my domain is better than yours" argument, but
I'd guess that probably most people with DEC experience know what DECnet is.
OTOH, only we know what HECnet is ...
Bob
My original plan was to make the domain available for all to receive email with either:
<username>@hecnet.org or
<username>@<DECnet-nodename>.hecnet.org (much easier to do BTW)
The web address was (is) an after-thought.
-Steve
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From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE on behalf of Bob Armstrong
Sent: Tue 6/26/2012 22:06
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: RE: [HECnet] decnet.org
I actually own hecnet.org. That could be used. In fact it is today to a
limited extent already...
I hope this doesn't start a "my domain is better than yours" argument, but
I'd guess that probably most people with DEC experience know what DECnet is.
OTOH, only we know what HECnet is ...
Bob
On 2012-06-27 06:18, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 06/26/2012 03:09 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
I know I'm going to sound all Web2.0 and stuff, but maybe a Wiki + a
blog that announces new posts to the Wiki?
Actually, a Wiki with some documentation would be a great idea.
But it s the same answer I m just offering the domain name;
somebody else has to set up the machine and service.
I'll host it if everyone is cool for the low-end hosting that I use
(i.e. Dreamhost)..
They also do automatically updated mediawiki + wordpress installs so
that'll work.
I am NOT throwing stones at this idea at all, but if anyone would find
this of value, I run my own self-contained network here...beefy Solaris
machines with big redundant fibrechannel disk arrays, backed up to big
tape juke, backup power, separate database servers, local nameservers,
etc, all on industrial-grade non-PC hardware, in a commercial building,
and I do quite a bit of commercial and noncommercial hosting on this
network.
I would be happy to make as much space and bandwidth available as
needed. I just don't have a lot of time these days (I moved from FL to
PA to find work, and I found a lot more than I bargained for) so I don't
want to work on the content, but if others can do that, I can make
whatever network resources available that would be needed, gratis of
course, for the group. I suggest this because I consider this to be
"friendly territory" network-wise, rather than at the whim of some
corporation somewhere.
If you guys don't want to go that route for whatever reason, that's ok
too. Just wanted to extend the offer, as it's one of the few things I
can do to help, and not everyone has these sorts of resources.
Thanks for the offer.
Update have silly amounts of bandwidth, and all else as well. So what, from my point of view, is missing, is content. Which I too am reluctant to try.
Of course, as people might have seen, we're going to have Update out for a couple of days, starting later today. Sorry about that. A short notice need to move machines around in the computer hall.
Johnny
On 2012-06-27 04:06, Bob Armstrong wrote:
I actually own hecnet.org. That could be used. In fact it is today to a
limited extent already...
I hope this doesn't start a "my domain is better than yours" argument, but
I'd guess that probably most people with DEC experience know what DECnet is.
OTOH, only we know what HECnet is ...
I think it makes sense to have both. :-)
Not that they necessarily should be identical.
Johnny
On 06/26/2012 03:09 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
I know I'm going to sound all Web2.0 and stuff, but maybe a Wiki + a
blog that announces new posts to the Wiki?
Actually, a Wiki with some documentation would be a great idea.
But it s the same answer I m just offering the domain name;
somebody else has to set up the machine and service.
I'll host it if everyone is cool for the low-end hosting that I use
(i.e. Dreamhost)..
They also do automatically updated mediawiki + wordpress installs so
that'll work.
I am NOT throwing stones at this idea at all, but if anyone would find
this of value, I run my own self-contained network here...beefy Solaris
machines with big redundant fibrechannel disk arrays, backed up to big
tape juke, backup power, separate database servers, local nameservers,
etc, all on industrial-grade non-PC hardware, in a commercial building,
and I do quite a bit of commercial and noncommercial hosting on this
network.
I would be happy to make as much space and bandwidth available as
needed. I just don't have a lot of time these days (I moved from FL to
PA to find work, and I found a lot more than I bargained for) so I don't
want to work on the content, but if others can do that, I can make
whatever network resources available that would be needed, gratis of
course, for the group. I suggest this because I consider this to be
"friendly territory" network-wise, rather than at the whim of some
corporation somewhere.
If you guys don't want to go that route for whatever reason, that's ok
too. Just wanted to extend the offer, as it's one of the few things I
can do to help, and not everyone has these sorts of resources.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 06/26/2012 03:41 PM, Bob Armstrong wrote:
OK, well the easiest way to do this is to have your registrar point your
DNS at my hosting..
Ppppttttthhhhh.... Don't need no stinkin' registrar....
Actually my registrar is pretty cool and I can edit the DNS directly for
the domains that I own. What do you want ? An A record? Or a CNAME might
be more appropriate in this case. What's the IP and/or redirect name?
You don't run your own namservers? Jeeze. ;)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
I actually own hecnet.org. That could be used. In fact it is today to a
limited extent already...
I hope this doesn't start a "my domain is better than yours" argument, but
I'd guess that probably most people with DEC experience know what DECnet is.
OTOH, only we know what HECnet is ...
Bob
Bob,
I actually own hecnet.org. That could be used. In fact it is today to a limited extent already...
-Steve
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Bob Armstrong
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 11:16
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: [HECnet] decnet.org
I own the domain decnet.org I have for several years, but I haven t really done anything with it. Is there any interest in using it for HECnet somehow? We could, for example, give all the machines that have TCP/IP connectivity name.decnet.org aliases. Or we could set up mail forwarding for somebody at decnet.org. Or we could have a web page at www.decnet.org. Or maybe somebody can think of something else. I m also willing to transfer the name if somebody can promise to put it to good use. I don t want any money for it, but I would like to see it get used.
Bob
On 26 Jun 2012, at 20:41, Bob Armstrong wrote:
OK, well the easiest way to do this is to have your registrar point your
DNS at my hosting..
Ppppttttthhhhh.... Don't need no stinkin' registrar....
Actually my registrar is pretty cool and I can edit the DNS directly for
the domains that I own. What do you want ? An A record? Or a CNAME might
be more appropriate in this case. What's the IP and/or redirect name?
And what subname? "wiki.decnet.org" ??
I already have a Blog and a Wiki on this specific topic set up at DECtec.info. My site is pretty quiet save for my RetroChallenge blog ramblings and I spent a lot of time skinning and theming the Wiki to a nice DEC themed wiki. I also have a small but inexpensive hosting space.
I'd be happy to combine my efforts with the community.
--
Mark Benson
http://DECtec.info
Twitter: @DECtecInfo
HECnet: STAR69::MARK
Online Resource & Mailing List for DEC Enthusiasts.
On 2012-06-26 22:16, Kari Uusim ki wrote:
On 26.6.2012 20:56, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2012-06-26 19:46, Kari Uusim ki wrote:
On 26.6.2012 18:16, Bob Armstrong wrote:
I own the domain decnet.org I have for several years, but I
haven t really done anything with it. Is there any interest in using
it for HECnet somehow? We could, for example, give all the machines
that have TCP/IP connectivity name.decnet.org aliases. Or we could
set up mail forwarding for somebody at decnet.org
<mailto:somebody at decnet.org>. Or we could have a web page at
www.decnet.org <http://www.decnet.org>. Or maybe somebody can think of
something else. I m also willing to transfer the name if somebody
can
promise to put it to good use. I don t want any money for it, but I
would like to see it get used.
Bob
Great idea!
Why not use it for connectivity to the outside world from HECnet? There
could be a gateway which translates the names and - if needed - DECnet
to TCP/IP and vice versa. DEC used to have an alias domain
(enet.dec.com) for the internal machines so that they could connect to
hosts outside the internal network.
I should point out that DNS is not the same as having a gateway. One is
just a DNS entry, the other is a machine. :-)
That said, I wouldn't mind if we could come up with something useful for
this. Having it point to somewhere where we can collect all resources in
a better way would be nice.
Some place that explains what HECnet is, how to join, have the bridge
program (and other stuff linked), links to other pages relevant to
HECnet (or DECnet), and whatnot...
But that requires that someone runs the service, and keeps it up to date
and running...
I suppose I *could*, but if someone else feels a bit more driven, that
would be good. I'm not good at web design, or user interfaces in
general. I'm way more into the technical details of things...
Johnny
.
Please don't take me for an idiot who doesn't know the difference of a
gateway and a DNS pointer. Maybe I'm not always so detailed and clear in
my postings, but I really have some more knowledge than that.
Please don't be offended.
I prefer to repeat the obvious than to maybe miss something very important. It does not imply that I don't think you know anything, or so. Just playing things safe for everyone. Also, you never know if someone else reads it and don't know all the bits and pieces.
Johnny
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