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by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2012-06-26 19:46, Kari Uusim ki wrote: On 26.6.2012 18:16, Bob Armstrong wrote: I own the domain decnet.org I have for several years, but I haven t really done anything with it. Is there any interest in using it for HECnet somehow? We could, for example, give all the machines that have TCP/IP connectivity name.decnet.org aliases. Or we could set up mail forwarding for somebody at decnet.org <mailto:somebody at decnet.org>. Or we could have a web page at www.decnet.org <http://www.decnet.org>. Or maybe somebody can think of something else. I m also willing to transfer the name if somebody can promise to put it to good use. I don t want any money for it, but I would like to see it get used. Bob Great idea! Why not use it for connectivity to the outside world from HECnet? There could be a gateway which translates the names and - if needed - DECnet to TCP/IP and vice versa. DEC used to have an alias domain (enet.dec.com) for the internal machines so that they could connect to hosts outside the internal network. I should point out that DNS is not the same as having a gateway. One is just a DNS entry, the other is a machine. :-) That said, I wouldn't mind if we could come up with something useful for this. Having it point to somewhere where we can collect all resources in a better way would be nice. Some place that explains what HECnet is, how to join, have the bridge program (and other stuff linked), links to other pages relevant to HECnet (or DECnet), and whatnot... But that requires that someone runs the service, and keeps it up to date and running... I suppose I *could*, but if someone else feels a bit more driven, that would be good. I'm not good at web design, or user interfaces in general. I'm way more into the technical details of things... Johnny

13 years

decnet.org

by uusimaki＠exdecfinland.org

On 26.6.2012 18:16, Bob Armstrong wrote: I own the domain decnet.org I have for several years, but I haven t really done anything with it. Is there any interest in using it for HECnet somehow? We could, for example, give all the machines that have TCP/IP connectivity name.decnet.org aliases. Or we could set up mail forwarding for somebody at decnet.org <mailto:somebody at decnet.org>. Or we could have a web page at www.decnet.org <http://www.decnet.org>. Or maybe somebody can think of something else. I m also willing to transfer the name if somebody can promise to put it to good use. I don t want any money for it, but I would like to see it get used. Bob Great idea! Why not use it for connectivity to the outside world from HECnet? There could be a gateway which translates the names and - if needed - DECnet to TCP/IP and vice versa. DEC used to have an alias domain (enet.dec.com) for the internal machines so that they could connect to hosts outside the internal network. Kari

13 years

decnet.org

by bob＠jfcl.com

I own the domain decnet.org I have for several years, but I haven t really done anything with it. Is there any interest in using it for HECnet somehow? We could, for example, give all the machines that have TCP/IP connectivity name.decnet.org aliases. Or we could set up mail forwarding for somebody at decnet.org. Or we could have a web page at www.decnet.org. Or maybe somebody can think of something else. I m also willing to transfer the name if somebody can promise to put it to good use. I don t want any money for it, but I would like to see it get used. Bob

13 years

Connect to HECnet

by bob＠jfcl.com

Igor I d be happy to have LEGATO connect to you with a Multinet tunnel. Since you are going to operate as a Level 1 router, that means you will have to be in the same area as LEGATO. That s not a problem since there s plenty of address space available, and I ll just reserve you a block from 2.300 thru 2.309. Sounds like you only have three machines, so that should be plenty. You ll need to register your node names with Johnny (just email them to this list) so he can add them to the master database. Send me an email off list when you have Multinet set up on your end and I ll turn on the link. Bob Armstrong From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Mirvaleev Igor (????????? ????? ????????????) Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 1:15 AM To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: [HECnet] Connect to HECnet Hello all! I would like to connect my 3 machines to HECnet. One of them i plan to configure as Level1 router and connect to HECnet using Multinet or TCPware under OpenVMS. Is anybody, who use the same software, can connect my machines to its area? Machines located in Moscow, my static IP is 81.200.30.73 Thanks, Igor

13 years

Connect to HECnet

by I.Mirvaleev＠gcr.gazprom.ru

Hello all! I would like to connect my 3 machines to HECnet. One of them i plan to configure as Level1 router and connect to HECnet using Multinet or TCPware under OpenVMS. Is anybody, who use the same software, can connect my machines to its area? Machines located in Moscow, my static IP is 81.200.30.73 Thanks, Igor

13 years

Psilo status?

by HECNET＠beyondthepale.ie

No. Some mails from Hans was encoded in Base64. If you didn't see that, then there is something going on at your side to hide it. But I think Hans solved this. Johnny helped me do some testing and it turns out that there was indeed something going on at my side to hide it. My PMDF mailserver was silently removing the redundant base64 encoding so I never got to see it which is why I was so puzzled. Apologies for spreading my confusion to the list without checking further. Regards, Peter Coghlan.

13 years

Test

by bqt＠softjar.se

Please ignore. I'm trying to see if the list mangles mails sometimes... . Johnny --

13 years

Psilo status?

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2012-06-23 00:25, Peter Coghlan wrote: Peter is this readable? Hans Sorry to be jumping into this late but I've been away. I am confused as to the source of the problem. I read the hecnet list using VMS Mail and I therefore get to see all the headers in their gorey detail. I've never seen any mail from the list arrive with base64 encoding. I've had a quick look through the headers for all the hecnet mail for the last few days. I find some mails have Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT and others have Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT (including some that are not from Hans). Just one mail (the HTML section of a mail from Jordi Guillaumes i Pons) had Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable and none at all had Content-transfer-encoding: base64. In particular, the ones from Hans do not arrive here with Content-transfer-encoding: base64 I can't see anything special about the mails from Hans that would be causing those and only those to result in difficulties on a 7bit only system. Perhaps a mail transfer agent processing mail for the system experiencing the problem is making incorrect assumptions about some of the mails going through it and somewhat arbitrarily deciding to convert some of them to base64? (I do see some headers such as X-Spam-Status: containing references to base64 but this should have no bearing on how the mail is processed.) No. Some mails from Hans was encoded in Base64. If you didn't see that, then there is something going on at your side to hide it. But I think Hans solved this. Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

13 years

RSTS on a Pro, was Re: [HECnet] DECnet User Mode Router - Encapsulation Formats

by oe5ewl＠gmail.com

RSX would be great too. There was a rumour that somebody got it on a Pro, but I never managed to get a copy... -- Wolfgang Eichberger - OE5EWL Operating System Collector Blog: 5ewl.blogspot.com Homepage: www.eichberger.org Ahnenforschung / Genealogy: A(E)ichberger, B(P)ruckmayr Raum Leonding/Alkoven/Eferding; Schmeisser Raum Attergau 2012/6/24 Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> On 2012-06-24 11:53, Wolfgang Eichberger wrote: I would greatly appreciate RSTS for my Pro380 too if you would like to share it.... For myself P/OS was never my thing... RSTS would be much nicer on this box... Speaking as an RSX fanatic - was P/OS every the right thing for anyone...??? Now, if I could get proper RSX on that machine... Johnny Regards, Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Eichberger - OE5EWL Operating System Collector Blog: 5ewl.blogspot.com <http://5ewl.blogspot.com> Homepage: www.eichberger.org <http://www.eichberger.org> Ahnenforschung / Genealogy: A(E)ichberger, B(P)ruckmayr Raum Leonding/Alkoven/Eferding; Schmeisser Raum Attergau 2012/6/23 Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com <mailto:mcguire at neurotica.com>> On 06/23/2012 04:43 PM, Paul_Koning at Dell.com wrote: >> Urr? Doesn't the CNA use an Am7990 "Lance" chip? As I recall >> that isn't too bad to program. I must be misremembering what chip >> it uses..? > > Intel 82586, which has the worst programming interface in the history > of Ethernet. It uses a single linked list, which is accessed both by > the driver and by the chip, without interlocking. Race conditions > everywhere... Ohhhhhhhhh, that one! I remember that chip. That was an "ie" (Intel Ethernet) in Sun parlance. The "le" (Lance Ethernet) found on some machines was far preferable. I had to write a driver for an Am7990 for an embedded application a long time ago; I remember that wasn't too bad. I've never really looked at the 82586 at the programming level; I just remembered not to try to put too much traffic through them when building networks of Sun machines. :) There's Linux support for it, for which source code is readily available, and I have some earlier Solaris source code which will have some code. Maybe pick through that for some tricks. But man that sounds dangerous, no access clash protection...ugh. >> Umm...are you willing to share that stuff? =) I run RSTS 10.1 on >> many of my PDP-11s; I'd LOVE to run it on my Pro-350! > > Sure, if I can figure out a way to do it reasonably cleanly. That would be great...Thank you! -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

13 years

RSTS on a Pro, was Re: [HECnet] DECnet User Mode Router - Encapsulation Formats

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2012-06-24 11:53, Wolfgang Eichberger wrote: I would greatly appreciate RSTS for my Pro380 too if you would like to share it.... For myself P/OS was never my thing... RSTS would be much nicer on this box... Speaking as an RSX fanatic - was P/OS every the right thing for anyone...??? Now, if I could get proper RSX on that machine... Johnny Regards, Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Eichberger - OE5EWL Operating System Collector Blog: 5ewl.blogspot.com <http://5ewl.blogspot.com> Homepage: www.eichberger.org <http://www.eichberger.org> Ahnenforschung / Genealogy: A(E)ichberger, B(P)ruckmayr Raum Leonding/Alkoven/Eferding; Schmeisser Raum Attergau 2012/6/23 Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com <mailto:mcguire at neurotica.com>> On 06/23/2012 04:43 PM, Paul_Koning at Dell.com wrote: >> Urr? Doesn't the CNA use an Am7990 "Lance" chip? As I recall >> that isn't too bad to program. I must be misremembering what chip >> it uses..? > > Intel 82586, which has the worst programming interface in the history > of Ethernet. It uses a single linked list, which is accessed both by > the driver and by the chip, without interlocking. Race conditions > everywhere... Ohhhhhhhhh, that one! I remember that chip. That was an "ie" (Intel Ethernet) in Sun parlance. The "le" (Lance Ethernet) found on some machines was far preferable. I had to write a driver for an Am7990 for an embedded application a long time ago; I remember that wasn't too bad. I've never really looked at the 82586 at the programming level; I just remembered not to try to put too much traffic through them when building networks of Sun machines. :) There's Linux support for it, for which source code is readily available, and I have some earlier Solaris source code which will have some code. Maybe pick through that for some tricks. But man that sounds dangerous, no access clash protection...ugh. >> Umm...are you willing to share that stuff? =) I run RSTS 10.1 on >> many of my PDP-11s; I'd LOVE to run it on my Pro-350! > > Sure, if I can figure out a way to do it reasonably cleanly. That would be great...Thank you! -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

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