On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 08/04/2012 04:18 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
I just had an absolutely insane idea: I'm gonna run Debian S/390 and try to get the DECNET stack running on that.
What do you guys think?
I think it sounds like lots of fun. It'd be even MORE fun if you're
able to do it on real hardware.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Hello!
I agree. That's why I offered to invite in a matter of speaking Sampsa
to join the H390-MVS group.
Now Dave why are you now allowing those yetis to pose for pictures as
representatives of the big foot family? They are above that
legend......
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Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
I just checked Amazon and they didn't have any z-series boxes for reasonable prices.
Also the power and cooling would kinda suck, methinks.
Sampsa
On 5 Aug 2012, at 00:18, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 08/04/2012 04:18 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
I just had an absolutely insane idea: I'm gonna run Debian S/390 and try to get the DECNET stack running on that.
What do you guys think?
I think it sounds like lots of fun. It'd be even MORE fun if you're
able to do it on real hardware.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 08/04/2012 04:18 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
I just had an absolutely insane idea: I'm gonna run Debian S/390 and try to get the DECNET stack running on that.
What do you guys think?
I think it sounds like lots of fun. It'd be even MORE fun if you're
able to do it on real hardware.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 08/04/2012 05:03 PM, Bob Armstrong wrote:
"Since Debian Squeeze, support for booting in ESA/390 mode was dropped.
Your machine needs to support for at least the z/Architecture, Architecture
Level Set 2."
That really, really sucks. That means most of the worlds operational
mainframes (the ones that will eventually be rotated out of service and
be available to people like us) won't run it.
I take this to mean that Debian no longer runs on a real S/390 machine but
requires a zSeries of some sort.
Well, they're still very much "real S/390 machines" in every way.
Does that work with Hercules?
Yes, Hercules implements both version of the z/Architecture.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Bob Armstrong <bob at jfcl.com> wrote:
Go ahead. The Debian S/390 installer is almost a friendly penguin so you
should be okay.
The Debian S/390 port installation guide says
"Since Debian Squeeze, support for booting in ESA/390 mode was dropped.
Your machine needs to support for at least the z/Architecture, Architecture
Level Set 2."
I take this to mean that Debian no longer runs on a real S/390 machine but
requires a zSeries of some sort. Does that work with Hercules?
Bob
Hello!
Actually yes. Hercules will emulate everything within reason up to the
latest of the family members. Those are being added as the developers
work on that little detail.
For what Sampsa is planning he should have no problems outside of the
usual ones.
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Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
Go ahead. The Debian S/390 installer is almost a friendly penguin so you
should be okay.
The Debian S/390 port installation guide says
"Since Debian Squeeze, support for booting in ESA/390 mode was dropped.
Your machine needs to support for at least the z/Architecture, Architecture
Level Set 2."
I take this to mean that Debian no longer runs on a real S/390 machine but
requires a zSeries of some sort. Does that work with Hercules?
Bob
Reading a tutorial where they set up a TUN/TAP device for the CTC comms, but with NAT.
Is there any way to make this interface look at a real ethernet interface on the host?
Sampsa
Tutorial link: http://josefsipek.net/docs/s390-linux/hercules-s390.html
On 4 Aug 2012, at 23:32, Gregg Levine wrote:
On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
I just had an absolutely insane idea: I'm gonna run Debian S/390 and try to get the DECNET stack running on that.
What do you guys think?
Sampsa
Hello!
Go ahead. The Debian S/390 installer is almost a friendly penguin so
you should be okay.
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Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
I just had an absolutely insane idea: I'm gonna run Debian S/390 and try to get the DECNET stack running on that.
What do you guys think?
Sampsa
Hello!
Go ahead. The Debian S/390 installer is almost a friendly penguin so
you should be okay.
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Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
Works for me now.
Steve- the link to your area is still down from GORVAX, everything ok?
sampsa
On 4 Aug 2012, at 23:18, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2012-08-04 22:01, Peter Coghlan wrote:
In another thread, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons <jg at jordi.guillaumes.name> wrote:
PS: I have lost connectivity to UPDATE again. And this time rebooting my
router didn't fix it... Any other one in the same situation?
I cah't reach various parts of HECnet right now, including area 1.
It appears from here that SG1 might be down or unreachable but I don't think
that accounts for all that seems to be wrong.
Psilo, running the bridge at Update had restarted. Kicked the bridge. All should be ok now.
Johnny
On 2012-08-04 22:01, Peter Coghlan wrote:
In another thread, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons <jg at jordi.guillaumes.name> wrote:
PS: I have lost connectivity to UPDATE again. And this time rebooting my
router didn't fix it... Any other one in the same situation?
I cah't reach various parts of HECnet right now, including area 1.
It appears from here that SG1 might be down or unreachable but I don't think
that accounts for all that seems to be wrong.
Psilo, running the bridge at Update had restarted. Kicked the bridge. All should be ok now.
Johnny
