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Another stupid question: How do i set the DECNET address? Sampsa On 29 Oct 2012, at 19:42, Sampsa Laine wrote: Stupid question, where can I find said tape? Sampsa On 29 Oct 2012, at 19:38, Cory Smelosky wrote: On 29 Oct 2012, at 13:26, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: DECmail would rock - how hard is it to install? Not very hard at all! 1). grab tape 2). attach tape (read the .ini) 3). log in! 4). @[0,1]instal layered_products 5). choose decmail 6). Press return until it completes. No idea how to configure it though, but considering the lack of TCP/IP i'd assume it's pretty much just for users of the system it's installed on, might have DECnet bits though. I know NOTHING about RSTS btw.. I barely know anything about RSTS myself ;). I'm trying to learn my way around, though. Sampsa On 29 Oct 2012, at 19:01, Cory Smelosky wrote: On Oct 29, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On Oct 29, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: So any chance of uploading this image anywhere? If you want to rebuild your own monitor, give me a couple minutes to upload a new image. If you just want an install to play with, use http://gewt.net/rsts.7z with a pass for 1,2 of "epicfail" http://gewt.net/rsts-proper.7z 1,2 still has a pass of epicfail and I believe there's also 99,98 with a password of testing. This doesn't have DECmail installed though. A config for simh is included, edit it to suit your needs. I'm not amazing at this or I'd add a nice README and a shiny barely-valid-HTML webpage that looks like it came from 1993 about it. Sampsa On 28 Oct 2012, at 15:48, Sampsa Laine wrote: On 27 Oct 2012, at 21:19, Cory Smelosky wrote: On Oct 27, 2012, at 2:06 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 10/27/2012 03:57 AM, Sampsa Laine wrote: That reminds me, if someone has a turnkey RSX or RSTS box around (that I could just plug in to SIMH and play with), ideally with DECNET support, please let me know. If you can't find one, I can make a RSTS image up for you. (I've never done DECnet under RSX, so that'd take me awhile to figure out) Which version of RSTS? I can give my disk image for my install of 10.1 if anyone wants to try and figure out what I did wrong or wants to make it in to a turnkey install it's pretty basic as i'm new to RSTS. (it has DECmail though) I'm cool with RSTS - whatever version is fine. Sampsa PS: I will plague people with noob questions..

13 years, 3 months

RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by b4＠gewt.net

On 29 Oct 2012, at 13:42, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: Stupid question, where can I find said tape? ftp://ftp.trailing-edge.com/pub/rsts_freeware/ or similar, might not be that exact directory. Sampsa On 29 Oct 2012, at 19:38, Cory Smelosky wrote: On 29 Oct 2012, at 13:26, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: DECmail would rock - how hard is it to install? Not very hard at all! 1). grab tape 2). attach tape (read the .ini) 3). log in! 4). @[0,1]instal layered_products 5). choose decmail 6). Press return until it completes. No idea how to configure it though, but considering the lack of TCP/IP i'd assume it's pretty much just for users of the system it's installed on, might have DECnet bits though. I know NOTHING about RSTS btw.. I barely know anything about RSTS myself ;). I'm trying to learn my way around, though. Sampsa On 29 Oct 2012, at 19:01, Cory Smelosky wrote: On Oct 29, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On Oct 29, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: So any chance of uploading this image anywhere? If you want to rebuild your own monitor, give me a couple minutes to upload a new image. If you just want an install to play with, use http://gewt.net/rsts.7z with a pass for 1,2 of "epicfail" http://gewt.net/rsts-proper.7z 1,2 still has a pass of epicfail and I believe there's also 99,98 with a password of testing. This doesn't have DECmail installed though. A config for simh is included, edit it to suit your needs. I'm not amazing at this or I'd add a nice README and a shiny barely-valid-HTML webpage that looks like it came from 1993 about it. Sampsa On 28 Oct 2012, at 15:48, Sampsa Laine wrote: On 27 Oct 2012, at 21:19, Cory Smelosky wrote: On Oct 27, 2012, at 2:06 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 10/27/2012 03:57 AM, Sampsa Laine wrote: That reminds me, if someone has a turnkey RSX or RSTS box around (that I could just plug in to SIMH and play with), ideally with DECNET support, please let me know. If you can't find one, I can make a RSTS image up for you. (I've never done DECnet under RSX, so that'd take me awhile to figure out) Which version of RSTS? I can give my disk image for my install of 10.1 if anyone wants to try and figure out what I did wrong or wants to make it in to a turnkey install it's pretty basic as i'm new to RSTS. (it has DECmail though) I'm cool with RSTS - whatever version is fine. Sampsa PS: I will plague people with noob questions..

13 years, 3 months

RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by sampsa＠mac.com

Stupid question, where can I find said tape? Sampsa On 29 Oct 2012, at 19:38, Cory Smelosky wrote: On 29 Oct 2012, at 13:26, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: DECmail would rock - how hard is it to install? Not very hard at all! 1). grab tape 2). attach tape (read the .ini) 3). log in! 4). @[0,1]instal layered_products 5). choose decmail 6). Press return until it completes. No idea how to configure it though, but considering the lack of TCP/IP i'd assume it's pretty much just for users of the system it's installed on, might have DECnet bits though. I know NOTHING about RSTS btw.. I barely know anything about RSTS myself ;). I'm trying to learn my way around, though. Sampsa On 29 Oct 2012, at 19:01, Cory Smelosky wrote: On Oct 29, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On Oct 29, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: So any chance of uploading this image anywhere? If you want to rebuild your own monitor, give me a couple minutes to upload a new image. If you just want an install to play with, use http://gewt.net/rsts.7z with a pass for 1,2 of "epicfail" http://gewt.net/rsts-proper.7z 1,2 still has a pass of epicfail and I believe there's also 99,98 with a password of testing. This doesn't have DECmail installed though. A config for simh is included, edit it to suit your needs. I'm not amazing at this or I'd add a nice README and a shiny barely-valid-HTML webpage that looks like it came from 1993 about it. Sampsa On 28 Oct 2012, at 15:48, Sampsa Laine wrote: On 27 Oct 2012, at 21:19, Cory Smelosky wrote: On Oct 27, 2012, at 2:06 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 10/27/2012 03:57 AM, Sampsa Laine wrote: That reminds me, if someone has a turnkey RSX or RSTS box around (that I could just plug in to SIMH and play with), ideally with DECNET support, please let me know. If you can't find one, I can make a RSTS image up for you. (I've never done DECnet under RSX, so that'd take me awhile to figure out) Which version of RSTS? I can give my disk image for my install of 10.1 if anyone wants to try and figure out what I did wrong or wants to make it in to a turnkey install it's pretty basic as i'm new to RSTS. (it has DECmail though) I'm cool with RSTS - whatever version is fine. Sampsa PS: I will plague people with noob questions..

13 years, 3 months

RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by b4＠gewt.net

On 29 Oct 2012, at 13:26, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: DECmail would rock - how hard is it to install? Not very hard at all! 1). grab tape 2). attach tape (read the .ini) 3). log in! 4). @[0,1]instal layered_products 5). choose decmail 6). Press return until it completes. No idea how to configure it though, but considering the lack of TCP/IP i'd assume it's pretty much just for users of the system it's installed on, might have DECnet bits though. I know NOTHING about RSTS btw.. I barely know anything about RSTS myself ;). I'm trying to learn my way around, though. Sampsa On 29 Oct 2012, at 19:01, Cory Smelosky wrote: On Oct 29, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On Oct 29, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: So any chance of uploading this image anywhere? If you want to rebuild your own monitor, give me a couple minutes to upload a new image. If you just want an install to play with, use http://gewt.net/rsts.7z with a pass for 1,2 of "epicfail" http://gewt.net/rsts-proper.7z 1,2 still has a pass of epicfail and I believe there's also 99,98 with a password of testing. This doesn't have DECmail installed though. A config for simh is included, edit it to suit your needs. I'm not amazing at this or I'd add a nice README and a shiny barely-valid-HTML webpage that looks like it came from 1993 about it. Sampsa On 28 Oct 2012, at 15:48, Sampsa Laine wrote: On 27 Oct 2012, at 21:19, Cory Smelosky wrote: On Oct 27, 2012, at 2:06 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 10/27/2012 03:57 AM, Sampsa Laine wrote: That reminds me, if someone has a turnkey RSX or RSTS box around (that I could just plug in to SIMH and play with), ideally with DECNET support, please let me know. If you can't find one, I can make a RSTS image up for you. (I've never done DECnet under RSX, so that'd take me awhile to figure out) Which version of RSTS? I can give my disk image for my install of 10.1 if anyone wants to try and figure out what I did wrong or wants to make it in to a turnkey install it's pretty basic as i'm new to RSTS. (it has DECmail though) I'm cool with RSTS - whatever version is fine. Sampsa PS: I will plague people with noob questions..

13 years, 3 months

RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by sampsa＠mac.com

DECmail would rock - how hard is it to install? I know NOTHING about RSTS btw.. Sampsa On 29 Oct 2012, at 19:01, Cory Smelosky wrote: On Oct 29, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On Oct 29, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: So any chance of uploading this image anywhere? If you want to rebuild your own monitor, give me a couple minutes to upload a new image. If you just want an install to play with, use http://gewt.net/rsts.7z with a pass for 1,2 of "epicfail" http://gewt.net/rsts-proper.7z 1,2 still has a pass of epicfail and I believe there's also 99,98 with a password of testing. This doesn't have DECmail installed though. A config for simh is included, edit it to suit your needs. I'm not amazing at this or I'd add a nice README and a shiny barely-valid-HTML webpage that looks like it came from 1993 about it. Sampsa On 28 Oct 2012, at 15:48, Sampsa Laine wrote: On 27 Oct 2012, at 21:19, Cory Smelosky wrote: On Oct 27, 2012, at 2:06 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 10/27/2012 03:57 AM, Sampsa Laine wrote: That reminds me, if someone has a turnkey RSX or RSTS box around (that I could just plug in to SIMH and play with), ideally with DECNET support, please let me know. If you can't find one, I can make a RSTS image up for you. (I've never done DECnet under RSX, so that'd take me awhile to figure out) Which version of RSTS? I can give my disk image for my install of 10.1 if anyone wants to try and figure out what I did wrong or wants to make it in to a turnkey install it's pretty basic as i'm new to RSTS. (it has DECmail though) I'm cool with RSTS - whatever version is fine. Sampsa PS: I will plague people with noob questions..

13 years, 3 months

RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by b4＠gewt.net

On Oct 29, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On Oct 29, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: So any chance of uploading this image anywhere? If you want to rebuild your own monitor, give me a couple minutes to upload a new image. If you just want an install to play with, use http://gewt.net/rsts.7z with a pass for 1,2 of "epicfail" http://gewt.net/rsts-proper.7z 1,2 still has a pass of epicfail and I believe there's also 99,98 with a password of testing. This doesn't have DECmail installed though. A config for simh is included, edit it to suit your needs. I'm not amazing at this or I'd add a nice README and a shiny barely-valid-HTML webpage that looks like it came from 1993 about it. Sampsa On 28 Oct 2012, at 15:48, Sampsa Laine wrote: On 27 Oct 2012, at 21:19, Cory Smelosky wrote: On Oct 27, 2012, at 2:06 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 10/27/2012 03:57 AM, Sampsa Laine wrote: That reminds me, if someone has a turnkey RSX or RSTS box around (that I could just plug in to SIMH and play with), ideally with DECNET support, please let me know. If you can't find one, I can make a RSTS image up for you. (I've never done DECnet under RSX, so that'd take me awhile to figure out) Which version of RSTS? I can give my disk image for my install of 10.1 if anyone wants to try and figure out what I did wrong or wants to make it in to a turnkey install it's pretty basic as i'm new to RSTS. (it has DECmail though) I'm cool with RSTS - whatever version is fine. Sampsa PS: I will plague people with noob questions..

13 years, 3 months

RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by b4＠gewt.net

On Oct 29, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: So any chance of uploading this image anywhere? If you want to rebuild your own monitor, give me a couple minutes to upload a new image. If you just want an install to play with, use http://gewt.net/rsts.7z with a pass for 1,2 of "epicfail" Sampsa On 28 Oct 2012, at 15:48, Sampsa Laine wrote: On 27 Oct 2012, at 21:19, Cory Smelosky wrote: On Oct 27, 2012, at 2:06 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 10/27/2012 03:57 AM, Sampsa Laine wrote: That reminds me, if someone has a turnkey RSX or RSTS box around (that I could just plug in to SIMH and play with), ideally with DECNET support, please let me know. If you can't find one, I can make a RSTS image up for you. (I've never done DECnet under RSX, so that'd take me awhile to figure out) Which version of RSTS? I can give my disk image for my install of 10.1 if anyone wants to try and figure out what I did wrong or wants to make it in to a turnkey install it's pretty basic as i'm new to RSTS. (it has DECmail though) I'm cool with RSTS - whatever version is fine. Sampsa PS: I will plague people with noob questions..

13 years, 3 months

RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by sampsa＠mac.com

So any chance of uploading this image anywhere? Sampsa On 28 Oct 2012, at 15:48, Sampsa Laine wrote: On 27 Oct 2012, at 21:19, Cory Smelosky wrote: On Oct 27, 2012, at 2:06 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 10/27/2012 03:57 AM, Sampsa Laine wrote: That reminds me, if someone has a turnkey RSX or RSTS box around (that I could just plug in to SIMH and play with), ideally with DECNET support, please let me know. If you can't find one, I can make a RSTS image up for you. (I've never done DECnet under RSX, so that'd take me awhile to figure out) Which version of RSTS? I can give my disk image for my install of 10.1 if anyone wants to try and figure out what I did wrong or wants to make it in to a turnkey install it's pretty basic as i'm new to RSTS. (it has DECmail though) I'm cool with RSTS - whatever version is fine. Sampsa PS: I will plague people with noob questions..

13 years, 3 months

rebuild RSTS/E monitor, was Re: [HECnet] RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by b4＠gewt.net

On Oct 29, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons <jg at jordi.guillaumes.name> wrote: Al 29/10/12 13:08, En/na Cory Smelosky ha escrit: It works mostly "out of the box" with the Panda distribution. You have to fiddle a little bit with the configuration file but IIRC it is pretty straightforward. I'll check it when I get access to my machine. Or you can check it yourself SET HOSTing to BITXT2 in HECnet. Unknown node, what's its address? Could you explain what you did to configure it? I am not at home now, so I will probably forgert something. You must edit SYSTEM:7-1-CONFIG.CMD and add/modify the following lines: NODE <your_node> <area.address> DECNET ROUTER-ENDNODE ETHERNET 0 DECNET 29-Oct-2012 09:33:11 ***BUGCHK COMBNN*** Bad local node number Job: 0, User: OPERATOR [KNILDR: Loading microcode version 1(172) into Ethernet channel 0] TYPE SYSTEM:7-1-CONFIG.CMD shows: NODE MINDY 33.303 DECNET ROUTER-ENDNODE ETHERNET 0 DECNET Trying to enter opr so I can enter NCP and see if I can get more information but nothing happens when I type opr<ret> as operator. The system is not reachable via decnet. Did I forget a setting somewhere? By the way, the address of BITXT2 is 7.78; you can login using GUEST / GUEST. I have not tried to configure it as a router, so I can not tell if anything different of ROUTER-ENDNODE would work. By the way, there is no "permanent database" in TOPS-20 DECNET, so you have to define the nodes everytime. I made a command procedure to do that parsing the output of a LIST KNOWN NODES, but unfortunately I can't tell you how do I invoke that command procedure now (I just forgot that!). The tricky part was the host configuration. I was unable to share the ethernet card of the host, so I resorted to the (somehow convoluted) solution of running a minimal linux system inside a virtualbox vm with several ethernet adapters and then run KLT10 inside the VM, using one of the virtual ethernet devices. I have it attached to a bridge and it is reachable via TCP/IP, so networking works.

13 years, 3 months

rebuild RSTS/E monitor, was Re: [HECnet] RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by jg＠jordi.guillaumes.name

Al 29/10/12 13:08, En/na Cory Smelosky ha escrit: It works mostly "out of the box" with the Panda distribution. You have to fiddle a little bit with the configuration file but IIRC it is pretty straightforward. I'll check it when I get access to my machine. Or you can check it yourself SET HOSTing to BITXT2 in HECnet. > Unknown node, what's its address? Could you explain what you did to configure it? I am not at home now, so I will probably forgert something. You must edit SYSTEM:7-1-CONFIG.CMD and add/modify the following lines: NODE <your_node> <area.address> DECNET ROUTER-ENDNODE ETHERNET 0 DECNET By the way, the address of BITXT2 is 7.78; you can login using GUEST / GUEST. I have not tried to configure it as a router, so I can not tell if anything different of ROUTER-ENDNODE would work. By the way, there is no "permanent database" in TOPS-20 DECNET, so you have to define the nodes everytime. I made a command procedure to do that parsing the output of a LIST KNOWN NODES, but unfortunately I can't tell you how do I invoke that command procedure now (I just forgot that!). The tricky part was the host configuration. I was unable to share the ethernet card of the host, so I resorted to the (somehow convoluted) solution of running a minimal linux system inside a virtualbox vm with several ethernet adapters and then run KLT10 inside the VM, using one of the virtual ethernet devices.

13 years, 3 months

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