On 10/30/2012 12:29 AM, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
This is a solved problem, no?
I mean automated mailing list archivers have existed since like forever, no?
Yup! And there they sit...until they disappear, usually because some
suit figures out that it isn't making them any money.
I'm sorry but, after losing SO DAMN MUCH STUFF that I counted on
"being around forever", the only archives I trust are my own.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 10/30/2012 12:27 AM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Yeah, archiving this stuff would be a great idea. Dump them all in a
format we'll all be able to read in a few years and store it on say,
amazon glacier. Who would want anything less than advertised eleven
nines for storing email?
I dunno, I'd want something more than storing it on someone else's
hardware. Especially when that someone else is a huge corporation,
subject to corporate whims. Your data could go away at any time.
So, backup to your tape library? :p
Yes. But this one:
http://www.neurotica.com/misc/DECporn/DSC_0789.JPG
...not this one:
http://www.neurotica.com/misc/DECporn/DSC_0790.JPG
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Pakgen...
Sent from my iPad
On 2012-10-29, at 10:19 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 30 Oct 2012, at 01:17, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> wrote:
Is this available on Hecnet somewhere?
Is what? ;) This chain of email has gotten a bit off topic...
Ian
Sent from my iPad
On 2012-10-29, at 10:03 PM, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
I've got a copy of pakgen too, in case someone needs it. For legit purposes only, of course.
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:54, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 30 Oct 2012, at 00:50, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
Not off the top of my head, I did manage to get it installed with a license from pakgen though.
THis was like 3 years ago. I'll have a look around for the install media.
Okay, I deleted the copy I had, and the ftp site I found it on disappeared...
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:37, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 30 Oct 2012, at 00:35, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
I got pakgen.c if you want it - I think you just need to figure out what the product name is and you're good
Happen to know the product name for Ultrix itself on a MicroVAX? ;)
and would you have a copy of some install media? I don't think I installed the DECnet bits.
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:29, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
This is a solved problem, no?
I mean automated mailing list archivers have existed since like forever, no?
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:27, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 29 Oct 2012, at 23:58, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/29/2012 11:52 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Yeah, archiving this stuff would be a great idea. Dump them all in a
format we'll all be able to read in a few years and store it on say,
amazon glacier. Who would want anything less than advertised eleven
nines for storing email?
I dunno, I'd want something more than storing it on someone else's
hardware. Especially when that someone else is a huge corporation,
subject to corporate whims. Your data could go away at any time.
So, backup to your tape library? :p
-Dave
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New Kensington, PA
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Very interesting... and quite different from the way I did it way back when.
In case you're curious, I used the attached code to patch the running kernel (don't try this at home :-) ) to modify EXE$LOOKUP_LICENSE to always return success. Once that's in place, you can LICENSE REGISTER your own PAKGEN license, or any other for that matter. The PAKGEN license has as its token a string of "issuer~producer" (or "producer~issuer" I always forget which comes first). You can then use LICENSE/GENERATE/ISSUER=issuer/PRODUCER=producer and LMF will permit it.
--Marc
On 30 Oct 2012, at 01:17, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> wrote:
Is this available on Hecnet somewhere?
Is what? ;) This chain of email has gotten a bit off topic...
Ian
Sent from my iPad
On 2012-10-29, at 10:03 PM, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
I've got a copy of pakgen too, in case someone needs it. For legit purposes only, of course.
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:54, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 30 Oct 2012, at 00:50, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
Not off the top of my head, I did manage to get it installed with a license from pakgen though.
THis was like 3 years ago. I'll have a look around for the install media.
Okay, I deleted the copy I had, and the ftp site I found it on disappeared...
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:37, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 30 Oct 2012, at 00:35, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
I got pakgen.c if you want it - I think you just need to figure out what the product name is and you're good
Happen to know the product name for Ultrix itself on a MicroVAX? ;)
and would you have a copy of some install media? I don't think I installed the DECnet bits.
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:29, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
This is a solved problem, no?
I mean automated mailing list archivers have existed since like forever, no?
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:27, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 29 Oct 2012, at 23:58, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/29/2012 11:52 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Yeah, archiving this stuff would be a great idea. Dump them all in a
format we'll all be able to read in a few years and store it on say,
amazon glacier. Who would want anything less than advertised eleven
nines for storing email?
I dunno, I'd want something more than storing it on someone else's
hardware. Especially when that someone else is a huge corporation,
subject to corporate whims. Your data could go away at any time.
So, backup to your tape library? :p
-Dave
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New Kensington, PA
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Is this available on Hecnet somewhere?
Ian
Sent from my iPad
On 2012-10-29, at 10:03 PM, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
I've got a copy of pakgen too, in case someone needs it. For legit purposes only, of course.
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:54, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 30 Oct 2012, at 00:50, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
Not off the top of my head, I did manage to get it installed with a license from pakgen though.
THis was like 3 years ago. I'll have a look around for the install media.
Okay, I deleted the copy I had, and the ftp site I found it on disappeared...
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:37, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 30 Oct 2012, at 00:35, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
I got pakgen.c if you want it - I think you just need to figure out what the product name is and you're good
Happen to know the product name for Ultrix itself on a MicroVAX? ;)
and would you have a copy of some install media? I don't think I installed the DECnet bits.
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:29, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
This is a solved problem, no?
I mean automated mailing list archivers have existed since like forever, no?
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:27, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 29 Oct 2012, at 23:58, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/29/2012 11:52 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Yeah, archiving this stuff would be a great idea. Dump them all in a
format we'll all be able to read in a few years and store it on say,
amazon glacier. Who would want anything less than advertised eleven
nines for storing email?
I dunno, I'd want something more than storing it on someone else's
hardware. Especially when that someone else is a huge corporation,
subject to corporate whims. Your data could go away at any time.
So, backup to your tape library? :p
-Dave
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New Kensington, PA
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From: Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com>
I had a PDT-11/150 many years ago, mid-80s. It was kinda fun, but
also kinda pointless. The only thing you can run on it is RT-11.
I had one too back then and had a blast! RT-11 is terrific (infinitely
better than contemporary microcomputer OSes), and anyway a 150 will run
pretty much anything an 11/03 will run (but with 30 KW of memory instead of
just 28) so it's really pretty flexible. I wrote a FORTH-79 system on mine
(including a stand-alone 4-user version with a blinky NULJOB display on the
two LEDs), and a PDP-8 cross-assembler, and one side of a two-user "pong"
game that worked over the modem, and ported Small-C to it, and did a zillion
other things I don't even remember. Something or other with a Microsoft
serial mouse plugged into the modem port? It was such a great machine!!!
John Wilson
D Bit
I've got a copy of pakgen too, in case someone needs it. For legit purposes only, of course.
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:54, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 30 Oct 2012, at 00:50, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
Not off the top of my head, I did manage to get it installed with a license from pakgen though.
THis was like 3 years ago. I'll have a look around for the install media.
Okay, I deleted the copy I had, and the ftp site I found it on disappeared...
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:37, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 30 Oct 2012, at 00:35, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
I got pakgen.c if you want it - I think you just need to figure out what the product name is and you're good
Happen to know the product name for Ultrix itself on a MicroVAX? ;)
and would you have a copy of some install media? I don't think I installed the DECnet bits.
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:29, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
This is a solved problem, no?
I mean automated mailing list archivers have existed since like forever, no?
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:27, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 29 Oct 2012, at 23:58, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/29/2012 11:52 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Yeah, archiving this stuff would be a great idea. Dump them all in a
format we'll all be able to read in a few years and store it on say,
amazon glacier. Who would want anything less than advertised eleven
nines for storing email?
I dunno, I'd want something more than storing it on someone else's
hardware. Especially when that someone else is a huge corporation,
subject to corporate whims. Your data could go away at any time.
So, backup to your tape library? :p
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
I got pakgen.c if you want it - I think you just need to figure out what the product name is and you're good...
Do you need PAKGEN? Or does that work without a license?
Later versions of VMS have LICENSE/GENERATE, but you have to have a PAKGEN license on your system already.
--Marc
On 30 Oct 2012, at 00:50, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
Not off the top of my head, I did manage to get it installed with a license from pakgen though.
THis was like 3 years ago. I'll have a look around for the install media.
Okay, I deleted the copy I had, and the ftp site I found it on disappeared...
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:37, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 30 Oct 2012, at 00:35, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
I got pakgen.c if you want it - I think you just need to figure out what the product name is and you're good
Happen to know the product name for Ultrix itself on a MicroVAX? ;)
and would you have a copy of some install media? I don't think I installed the DECnet bits.
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:29, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
This is a solved problem, no?
I mean automated mailing list archivers have existed since like forever, no?
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:27, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 29 Oct 2012, at 23:58, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/29/2012 11:52 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Yeah, archiving this stuff would be a great idea. Dump them all in a
format we'll all be able to read in a few years and store it on say,
amazon glacier. Who would want anything less than advertised eleven
nines for storing email?
I dunno, I'd want something more than storing it on someone else's
hardware. Especially when that someone else is a huge corporation,
subject to corporate whims. Your data could go away at any time.
So, backup to your tape library? :p
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
