From: Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com>
I had a PDT-11/150 many years ago, mid-80s. It was kinda fun, but
also kinda pointless. The only thing you can run on it is RT-11.
I had one too back then and had a blast! RT-11 is terrific (infinitely
better than contemporary microcomputer OSes), and anyway a 150 will run
pretty much anything an 11/03 will run (but with 30 KW of memory instead of
just 28) so it's really pretty flexible. I wrote a FORTH-79 system on mine
(including a stand-alone 4-user version with a blinky NULJOB display on the
two LEDs), and a PDP-8 cross-assembler, and one side of a two-user "pong"
game that worked over the modem, and ported Small-C to it, and did a zillion
other things I don't even remember. Something or other with a Microsoft
serial mouse plugged into the modem port? It was such a great machine!!!
John Wilson
D Bit
I've got a copy of pakgen too, in case someone needs it. For legit purposes only, of course.
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:54, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 30 Oct 2012, at 00:50, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
Not off the top of my head, I did manage to get it installed with a license from pakgen though.
THis was like 3 years ago. I'll have a look around for the install media.
Okay, I deleted the copy I had, and the ftp site I found it on disappeared...
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:37, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 30 Oct 2012, at 00:35, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
I got pakgen.c if you want it - I think you just need to figure out what the product name is and you're good
Happen to know the product name for Ultrix itself on a MicroVAX? ;)
and would you have a copy of some install media? I don't think I installed the DECnet bits.
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:29, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
This is a solved problem, no?
I mean automated mailing list archivers have existed since like forever, no?
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:27, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 29 Oct 2012, at 23:58, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/29/2012 11:52 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Yeah, archiving this stuff would be a great idea. Dump them all in a
format we'll all be able to read in a few years and store it on say,
amazon glacier. Who would want anything less than advertised eleven
nines for storing email?
I dunno, I'd want something more than storing it on someone else's
hardware. Especially when that someone else is a huge corporation,
subject to corporate whims. Your data could go away at any time.
So, backup to your tape library? :p
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
I got pakgen.c if you want it - I think you just need to figure out what the product name is and you're good...
Do you need PAKGEN? Or does that work without a license?
Later versions of VMS have LICENSE/GENERATE, but you have to have a PAKGEN license on your system already.
--Marc
On 30 Oct 2012, at 00:50, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
Not off the top of my head, I did manage to get it installed with a license from pakgen though.
THis was like 3 years ago. I'll have a look around for the install media.
Okay, I deleted the copy I had, and the ftp site I found it on disappeared...
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:37, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 30 Oct 2012, at 00:35, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
I got pakgen.c if you want it - I think you just need to figure out what the product name is and you're good
Happen to know the product name for Ultrix itself on a MicroVAX? ;)
and would you have a copy of some install media? I don't think I installed the DECnet bits.
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:29, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
This is a solved problem, no?
I mean automated mailing list archivers have existed since like forever, no?
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:27, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 29 Oct 2012, at 23:58, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/29/2012 11:52 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Yeah, archiving this stuff would be a great idea. Dump them all in a
format we'll all be able to read in a few years and store it on say,
amazon glacier. Who would want anything less than advertised eleven
nines for storing email?
I dunno, I'd want something more than storing it on someone else's
hardware. Especially when that someone else is a huge corporation,
subject to corporate whims. Your data could go away at any time.
So, backup to your tape library? :p
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Not off the top of my head, I did manage to get it installed with a license from pakgen though.
THis was like 3 years ago. I'll have a look around for the install media.
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:37, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 30 Oct 2012, at 00:35, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
I got pakgen.c if you want it - I think you just need to figure out what the product name is and you're good
Happen to know the product name for Ultrix itself on a MicroVAX? ;)
and would you have a copy of some install media? I don't think I installed the DECnet bits.
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:29, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
This is a solved problem, no?
I mean automated mailing list archivers have existed since like forever, no?
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:27, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 29 Oct 2012, at 23:58, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/29/2012 11:52 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Yeah, archiving this stuff would be a great idea. Dump them all in a
format we'll all be able to read in a few years and store it on say,
amazon glacier. Who would want anything less than advertised eleven
nines for storing email?
I dunno, I'd want something more than storing it on someone else's
hardware. Especially when that someone else is a huge corporation,
subject to corporate whims. Your data could go away at any time.
So, backup to your tape library? :p
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 30 Oct 2012, at 00:35, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
I got pakgen.c if you want it - I think you just need to figure out what the product name is and you're good
Happen to know the product name for Ultrix itself on a MicroVAX? ;)
and would you have a copy of some install media? I don't think I installed the DECnet bits.
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:29, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
This is a solved problem, no?
I mean automated mailing list archivers have existed since like forever, no?
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:27, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 29 Oct 2012, at 23:58, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/29/2012 11:52 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Yeah, archiving this stuff would be a great idea. Dump them all in a
format we'll all be able to read in a few years and store it on say,
amazon glacier. Who would want anything less than advertised eleven
nines for storing email?
I dunno, I'd want something more than storing it on someone else's
hardware. Especially when that someone else is a huge corporation,
subject to corporate whims. Your data could go away at any time.
So, backup to your tape library? :p
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 30 Oct 2012, at 00:01, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/29/2012 11:43 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
How complete are your -2020s?
They're both complete, but one of the two has a nonfunctional console
board. I need MASSbus drives to get them running. I have an RM02, but
it's in really bad shape and will likely require repairs.
Does the 11/750 work?
Not yet, but it's close.
How close? What're your plans once she's operational again?
Is that an iMac G4 I see?
It is.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
I got pakgen.c if you want it - I think you just need to figure out what the product name is and you're good...
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:29, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
This is a solved problem, no?
I mean automated mailing list archivers have existed since like forever, no?
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:27, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 29 Oct 2012, at 23:58, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/29/2012 11:52 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Yeah, archiving this stuff would be a great idea. Dump them all in a
format we'll all be able to read in a few years and store it on say,
amazon glacier. Who would want anything less than advertised eleven
nines for storing email?
I dunno, I'd want something more than storing it on someone else's
hardware. Especially when that someone else is a huge corporation,
subject to corporate whims. Your data could go away at any time.
So, backup to your tape library? :p
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 30 Oct 2012, at 00:05, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/30/2012 12:01 AM, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
Considering I was born the same year that VMS was developed, I think
it's fairly respectable.
Ahh, a young'n! I've got about a decade on you. But still,
approximately thirty times as much archived email. Your spools are lean
'n trim, my friend!
I'm younger than both of you but I love me some DEC software and let's see how much email I have 11,878 in this account. 5,300 in another. And I think I either deleted all my other accounts, their messages got moved to other providers, or I forgot the password.
And I lost a bunch of mails when I used my buddy's "hosting" service,
said buddy never having heard of RAID or backups.
Eeeeek!
Speaking of which I need to buy a couple 1TB and 2TB drives to implement RAID. Don't want to lose disk mages of netware or my Ultrix install named bonerhitler (don't ask) (anyone know where I could get a license pak for Ultrix or know how to configure DECnet on it?)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
This is a solved problem, no?
I mean automated mailing list archivers have existed since like forever, no?
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:27, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 29 Oct 2012, at 23:58, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/29/2012 11:52 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Yeah, archiving this stuff would be a great idea. Dump them all in a
format we'll all be able to read in a few years and store it on say,
amazon glacier. Who would want anything less than advertised eleven
nines for storing email?
I dunno, I'd want something more than storing it on someone else's
hardware. Especially when that someone else is a huge corporation,
subject to corporate whims. Your data could go away at any time.
So, backup to your tape library? :p
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
