On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
I came across this little gem when perusing VT220 escape code:
"4.4.2 Designating Soft (Down-Line-Loadable) Character Sets
You can define a soft character set (font) that may or may not replace one of the existing hard sets (ROM fonts). If you do replace a hard set, the replacement occurs for both the 80 and 132-column versions"
Does VMS support this? Or is it up to the terminal emulator?
Here's the link: http://vt100.net/docs/vt220-rm/chapter4.html
That stuff generally needs a real terminal to work. As Julian pointed out, there are some emulators that do support this feature. I believe the VTstar software might do it, although I can't confirm that right now. The DECterm terminal window doesn't support it, that is the only way I think VMS could support it given it is a feature of the terminal. I'm pretty sure (it's been a while since I played with this stuff) that the soft character set is not the same on different models of terminal either.
If you're looking for real world examples then Google is your friend. There is a program floating around that converts gifs to sixel graphics that can be displayed using the soft character set on VT320 terminals.
Regards, Tim.
I'll have to look into that Mac240 software, sounds cool.
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
On 18 Sep 2013, at 08:14, Julian Wolfe <julian at twinax.org> wrote:
I just did a bunch of work messing with this. It works on the Mac emulator called "Mac240" for 68K machines, which also emulates ReGIS graphics. I would have no idea what VMS would 'support', but it's just a matter of dumping escape code sequences to the terminal.
I have been unsuccessful at getting a real 220 to respond to the escape codes that the Mac emulator seems to accept, according to the VT220 programmer's reference.
On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:40 AM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
I came across this little gem when perusing VT220 escape code:
"4.4.2 Designating Soft (Down-Line-Loadable) Character Sets
You can define a soft character set (font) that may or may not replace one of the existing hard sets (ROM fonts). If you do replace a hard set, the replacement occurs for both the 80 and 132-column versions"
Does VMS support this? Or is it up to the terminal emulator?
Here's the link: http://vt100.net/docs/vt220-rm/chapter4.html
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
I just did a bunch of work messing with this. It works on the Mac emulator called "Mac240" for 68K machines, which also emulates ReGIS graphics. I would have no idea what VMS would 'support', but it's just a matter of dumping escape code sequences to the terminal.
I have been unsuccessful at getting a real 220 to respond to the escape codes that the Mac emulator seems to accept, according to the VT220 programmer's reference.
On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:40 AM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
I came across this little gem when perusing VT220 escape code:
"4.4.2 Designating Soft (Down-Line-Loadable) Character Sets
You can define a soft character set (font) that may or may not replace one of the existing hard sets (ROM fonts). If you do replace a hard set, the replacement occurs for both the 80 and 132-column versions"
Does VMS support this? Or is it up to the terminal emulator?
Here's the link: http://vt100.net/docs/vt220-rm/chapter4.html
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
I came across this little gem when perusing VT220 escape code:
"4.4.2 Designating Soft (Down-Line-Loadable) Character Sets
You can define a soft character set (font) that may or may not replace one of the existing hard sets (ROM fonts). If you do replace a hard set, the replacement occurs for both the 80 and 132-column versions"
Does VMS support this? Or is it up to the terminal emulator?
Here's the link: http://vt100.net/docs/vt220-rm/chapter4.html
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
Hello!
Pontus I've been dunning myself, in the general direction of Kessel
for the same issue, (your good idea), for two items as well. As it
happens my Fedex account is fully workable........
----
Dave this is your fault, none of the Yetis surrounding you or Cory
want to help. All they want to do is use your resources to commit
mayhem in Asia.
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Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:30 AM, Pontus <pontus at update.uu.se> wrote:
On 09/18/2013 01:25 AM, Bob Armstrong wrote:
H919 20 slot 8/E OMNIBUS backplane
Argh, I've been looking for one of those for a while. Does it have the "flip
chips" for connecting to another backplane (I don't know the number)?
Is there anybody local who would pick it up and ship to me in Sweden? For a
reasonable reward of course.
Regards,
Pontus.
On 09/18/2013 01:25 AM, Bob Armstrong wrote:
H919 20 slot 8/E OMNIBUS backplane
Argh, I've been looking for one of those for a while. Does it have the "flip chips" for connecting to another backplane (I don't know the number)?
Is there anybody local who would pick it up and ship to me in Sweden? For a reasonable reward of course.
Regards,
Pontus.
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 09:08:36AM -0700, Ian McLaughlin wrote:
Best change? Putting the reason at the top of the email instead of the bottom :)
Yes. I agree. :)
-brian
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:50:46PM -0400, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 09/17/2013 11:09 AM, Brian Hechinger wrote:
Reloading router: 50.73.179.1 xxxxxxx 37.59.44.141 tunnel-gw.neurotica.com-ipv4.txt
Error reloading router: gw.neurotica.com :: No SNMP response received before timeout
Reloading router: 208.73.57.126 xxxxxx 37.59.44.141 tunnel-hub.platinum.net-ipv4.txt
running..........
successful
Reloading router: 10.42.255.5 xxxxxxx 37.59.44.141 tunnel-bart.4amlunch.net-ipv4.txt
running.......
successful
Reloading router: 75.60.194.48 xxxxxxx 37.59.44.141 tunnel-dev.gimme-sympathy.org-ipv4.txt
Error reloading router: dev.gimme-sympathy.org :: No SNMP response received before timeout
So Cory and Dave, please update your ACLs. :)
Sorry, very busy here. What address are you coming from now?
37.59.44.141
And, umm, you might consider sanitizing your outbound mail a bit.
I've deleted the passwords in the quoted message above. Similarly I
Oh, that was rather silly of me. Sorry.
recently found headers referencing a certain private mailing list
archived in Oracle's forums, in the context of sieve rules.
Who what why? Please point me to that? I don't think I've ever used
Oracle's forums. I barely used them when they were run by Sun.
-brian
On 09/17/2013 11:09 AM, Brian Hechinger wrote:
Reloading router: 50.73.179.1 xxxxxxx 37.59.44.141 tunnel-gw.neurotica.com-ipv4.txt
Error reloading router: gw.neurotica.com :: No SNMP response received before timeout
Reloading router: 208.73.57.126 xxxxxx 37.59.44.141 tunnel-hub.platinum.net-ipv4.txt
running..........
successful
Reloading router: 10.42.255.5 xxxxxxx 37.59.44.141 tunnel-bart.4amlunch.net-ipv4.txt
running.......
successful
Reloading router: 75.60.194.48 xxxxxxx 37.59.44.141 tunnel-dev.gimme-sympathy.org-ipv4.txt
Error reloading router: dev.gimme-sympathy.org :: No SNMP response received before timeout
So Cory and Dave, please update your ACLs. :)
Sorry, very busy here. What address are you coming from now?
And, umm, you might consider sanitizing your outbound mail a bit.
I've deleted the passwords in the quoted message above. Similarly I
recently found headers referencing a certain private mailing list
archived in Oracle's forums, in the context of sieve rules.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 07:28:57PM -0400, Gregg Levine wrote:
Hello!
Bob how big is the DELNI?
I used to have one of those!!
A *long* time ago.
Replaced it with a cisco 10mbit switch that used fiber and got a bunch
of AUI/fiber tranceivers.
Don't have that anymore either. :)
-brian
