On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 11:52:15PM -0400, Gregg Levine wrote:
Hello!
Interesting. And I wonder why.
There's a scene in the book "Cuckoo's Egg" where the fink having
broken into the US sponsored network again landing in UCB finds
himself 3000 miles away and in Cambridge and trying to figure out a
TOPS-20 running system. I can't recall what specie of system it was
that was still there then, but when Cliff contacted the school to
report it, the individual told him not to worry about it, there wasn't
much on it, and it was (GASP!) going to be thrown away in a few
months.
It might have been an ordinary PDP-10 as it happens.
The fink was easily confounded by BSD, and knew enough VMS to confuse
even Cliff, but the way the TOPS-20 system worked completely baffled
him.
I certainly hope the system went to a good home.....
I just red that book and remember the scene very well :) I also gasp:ed
when I read it was going to be thrown away. I recall that it was a KA10,
but did KA10's run TOPS-20? I don't think so. I'll have to open the book
and check tonight.
Great book!
/P
El 23/09/2013, a les 8:45, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> va escriure:
So you can basically install X on them and it'll run?
Well, yes and no. I don't think the graphics support in SIMH is the better option to make a "portable VAX".
Basically, what you get is a window emulatin the Vaxstation "glass console". So, when you boot VMS with DECWindows, you get a graphic login prompt just like in a real VS. The problem is you will get the emulated device resolution, not the resolution your mac can support.
You will get better results with a headless emulated VAX and xnest/Xephyr connecting to it using XDCMP...
Jordi Guillaumes i Pons
jg at jordi.guillaumes.name
HECnet: BITXOV::JGUILLAUMES
Installing it on a Linux box anyway, it says it comes with a precompiled Linux binary of KLH10.
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On 23 Sep 2013, at 08:47, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons <jg at jordi.guillaumes.name> wrote:
El 23/09/2013, a les 8:41, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> va escriure:
Will that run in SIMH?
Or do I need some other emulator?
It won't run in SIMH. The panda dist comes with KLH10. The default configuration has DECNET disabled, but it is not difficult to enable it. You will find some tips in this post:
http://ancientbits.blogspot.com.es/2013/05/ten-over-pi.html?m=1
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On 23 Sep 2013, at 08:38, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons <jg at jordi.guillaumes.name> wrote:
El 23/09/2013, a les 5:59, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> va escriure:
What software do I need to get another one going? Any ideas?
The panda distribution contains everything you need.
El 23/09/2013, a les 8:41, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> va escriure:
Will that run in SIMH?
Or do I need some other emulator?
It won't run in SIMH. The panda dist comes with KLH10. The default configuration has DECNET disabled, but it is not difficult to enable it. You will find some tips in this post:
http://ancientbits.blogspot.com.es/2013/05/ten-over-pi.html?m=1
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
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On 23 Sep 2013, at 08:38, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons <jg at jordi.guillaumes.name> wrote:
El 23/09/2013, a les 5:59, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> va escriure:
What software do I need to get another one going? Any ideas?
The panda distribution contains everything you need.
So you can basically install X on them and it'll run?
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
On 23 Sep 2013, at 08:41, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons <jg at jordi.guillaumes.name> wrote:
El 23/09/2013, a les 8:38, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> va escriure:
And the VAX emu does graphics?
I'm not at home now so I can't check it for sure; the microVAX II does it for sure, and IIRC the 3900 does it too.
If that's the case, my Macbook Pro 13" is turning into a portable VAX :)
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On 23 Sep 2013, at 08:41, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons <jg at jordi.guillaumes.name> wrote:
El 23/09/2013, a les 8:38, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> va escriure:
And the VAX emu does graphics?
I'm not at home now so I can't check it for sure; the microVAX II does it for sure, and IIRC the 3900 does it too.
El 23/09/2013, a les 8:38, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> va escriure:
And the VAX emu does graphics?
I'm not at home now so I can't check it for sure; the microVAX II does it for sure, and IIRC the 3900 does it too.
Will that run in SIMH?
Or do I need some other emulator?
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
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On 23 Sep 2013, at 08:38, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons <jg at jordi.guillaumes.name> wrote:
El 23/09/2013, a les 5:59, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> va escriure:
What software do I need to get another one going? Any ideas?
The panda distribution contains everything you need.
El 23/09/2013, a les 5:59, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> va escriure:
What software do I need to get another one going? Any ideas?
The panda distribution contains everything you need.
And the VAX emu does graphics?
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
On 23 Sep 2013, at 08:36, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons <jg at jordi.guillaumes.name> wrote:
El 23/09/2013, a les 4:04, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> va escriure:
I'm building one the moment SIMH v4 comes out :)
The one in the dev repository works quite well. The only problem I found when I tried it is related to non-US keyboards, and I have not yet tried to fix it via configuration.
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
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On 23 Sep 2013, at 04:03, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
I'd use that in a cafe' in a heartbeat.
-Dave
On 09/22/2013 10:02 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
That would be pretty nifty - build a laptop that runs Linux, starts SIMH from init and runs with graphics. A VaxBook if you will.
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On 23 Sep 2013, at 04:00, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 09/22/2013 09:43 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Speaking of SIMH v4, I came across this in github:
Add sim_video and VAX QVSS (VCB01) Monochrome Video Board from Matt Burke
Does this mean we'll get a graphical version of SIMH VAX?
That has been in the works for some time.
-Dave
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