Is it possible to use say Arabic or Hebrew script on VMS - I don't mean for DCL of course but for editing text files etc.
Or does this require DECWindows?
VT240, VT330, VT340. All are glorious, and all are here.
Glad to hear. I bought a mint VT340 last week after watching it for months on ebay. Maybe I overpaid for it? ($200), but Im in Australia and they just dont seem to turn up that often.
I have an VT420 courtesy of Saku Setala but unfortunately the screen barely works so I've decided to try something else on my client box (OS X):
1. Terminal.app emulates the display side of VT220 etc very well
2. The problem is sending keys like the keypad and PF1-4, DO, HELP etc
3. However, Terminal.app lets you map any key to any escape sequence you want
4. So I'll purchase a full size Mac USB keyboard, print some labels (PF1, DO, etc) create a Terminal.app profile that sends the relevant control/escape characters on the newly labelled buttons and I should be pretty close to having something resembling a terminal with an LK keyboard.
The beauty of this is that it's light and will work with my laptops without a problem.
If I get this working I'll post the key mappings for Terminal.app on my website for any other OS X users here.
sampsa
VT240, VT330, VT340. All are glorious, and all are here.
Glad to hear. I bought a mint VT340 last week after watching it for months on ebay. Maybe I overpaid for it? ($200), but Im in Australia and they just dont seem to turn up that often.
Daniel.
I know I'm in the process of being hooked up, but I think it will be great to be able to access DECUS via DECnet. Does anyone offer a news feed via HECnet?
Regards,
Daniel.
Sent from my iPad
On 28 Sep 2013, at 05:42, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-09-28 05:41, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2013-09-28 05:20, Bob Armstrong wrote:
Johnny Billquist wrote:
Mine worked like any asynchronous serial interface. Plain RS-232.
Sounds like there's a magic switch somewhere ... Now to find it.
Either that, or the port is broken. I seem to remember mine breaking a
couple of times, and me repairing it. But any further details have been
forgotten. I only remember that it wasn't hard to figure out or fix.
I assume you have tried shorting pin 2&3 of the serial port, and nothing
happens when you type...?
Open it up. There is a large board at the bottom which if I remember
right, is pretty much all of it.
Oh, I should mention - I don't remember there being more than one rotary switch for speed selection, but check to make sure there isn't a separate for Tx and Rx, and them being set differently for split speed...
Just out of interest, how hard would it be to get hold of this TRAX software platform that uses VT62 in it's block mode (it runs on "high end PDP-11s")?
Anybody ever program anything for it?
On 2013-09-28 05:41, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2013-09-28 05:20, Bob Armstrong wrote:
Johnny Billquist wrote:
Mine worked like any asynchronous serial interface. Plain RS-232.
Sounds like there's a magic switch somewhere ... Now to find it.
Either that, or the port is broken. I seem to remember mine breaking a
couple of times, and me repairing it. But any further details have been
forgotten. I only remember that it wasn't hard to figure out or fix.
I assume you have tried shorting pin 2&3 of the serial port, and nothing
happens when you type...?
Open it up. There is a large board at the bottom which if I remember
right, is pretty much all of it.
Oh, I should mention - I don't remember there being more than one rotary switch for speed selection, but check to make sure there isn't a separate for Tx and Rx, and them being set differently for split speed...
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
On 2013-09-28 05:20, Bob Armstrong wrote:
Johnny Billquist wrote:
Mine worked like any asynchronous serial interface. Plain RS-232.
Sounds like there's a magic switch somewhere ... Now to find it.
Either that, or the port is broken. I seem to remember mine breaking a couple of times, and me repairing it. But any further details have been forgotten. I only remember that it wasn't hard to figure out or fix.
I assume you have tried shorting pin 2&3 of the serial port, and nothing happens when you type...?
Open it up. There is a large board at the bottom which if I remember right, is pretty much all of it.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Johnny Billquist wrote:
Mine worked like any asynchronous serial interface. Plain RS-232.
Sounds like there's a magic switch somewhere ... Now to find it.
Bob
On 2013-09-28 03:04, John Wilson wrote:
From: Bob Armstrong <bob at jfcl.com>
What can be done (non-destructive suggestions only, please) with a
VT-62? This is NOT a VT52 (although it looks like one). The VT62 is a
block mode terminal that, I think, actually speaks DDCMP. AFAIK it's
incapable of being a plain ASCII terminal unless there's some hack I'm
unaware of.
Have you tried it? I had a VT62 on my PDT-11/150 in college and I know
there was supposed to be a block mode, but it also worked fine as just a
VT52 clone, but with a speaker for keyclick/^G instead of a clacker, ESC T
switches you to reverse video and ESC U switches you back, and after column
72 there are tabs at every column. Other than that it's exactly a VT52 IIRC.
No idea if mine had been jumpered or had the ROMs switched or anything
to make it so normal. I bought it from an ex-DEC-employee (DEC dumped
a lot of the PDTs to their own employees) and I suppose it's possible
he got a special version.
I used a VT62 for more than 10 years in the late 80s and early 90s. Yes, they work exactly as you write, John. VT52 compatible, but with a different BEL sound, and capable of inverse video.
I wrote a termcap entry for it, but I'm not sure if I still have it around.
If they were capable of block mode, then it must be as Lee wrote, there must be a switch somewhere inside for it. Mine worked like any asynchronous serial interface. Plain RS-232. Not sure about any modem signals, but doubt it. Didn't run too fast. 9600 bps max maybe?
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
On 2013-09-27 22:19, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 09/27/2013 04:06 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Ahh ok. Well, if I run the 11/24, I obviously won't be running
that
stack. :) I may run an 11/44 instead.
Running M+ on an 11/23 or 11/24 (the only systems without I/D space that
M+ supports) is perhaps not the most wonderful experience anyway. Since
you don't have split I/D-space on those systems, system pool becomes
really scarce. And that is not fun.
An 11/44 is so much better.
Yeah I suppose so.
I've never run Plus on anything. I've run plain M on lots of stuff
though; it's fine on an 11/23. I guess Plus is a lot heavier for all of
its additional functionality.
Depends on what you mean by "heavier". The performance is mostly better,
the capabilities are much greater, and it's much more user friendly and
fun. But it takes loads of more memory for all of this.
Actually better performance, even with all those neat features? Wow,
that's surprising and nice to hear...Very nice! I really need to do
something with Plus.
M+ have much more pool space. You have disk caching. Preallocated I/O packets. Disk I/O optimization. The capability for multiple paths to disks. Memory handling is different, and you normally don't have many memory partitions which you need to try to optimize space wise. You have split I/D space and supervisor mode, which lots of programs use, resulting in much less overlaying for many tasks...
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
