Mark Benson <md.benson at gmail.com> writes:
On 17 Jan 2013, at 17:40, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
What compilers do you need? I could possibly set them up on RHESUS..
Whatever is required to compile SimH and libpcap on VMS 8.4, I assume.
I'm intrigued to see how well the VAX simulation does on an Integrity in
= an OS that was actually deliberately ported to Itanium, not
accidentally = stuffed on there 'because'. If someone has the OpenVMS
Integrity = binaries that'd do for a start...
I assume SimH is written in 'C'. You can get a hobbyist license for VMS
from HP for Itanium. HP then gives you access to distributions as well
as PAKs for VMS and some layered products.
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On 17 Jan 2013, at 17:40, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
What compilers do you need? I could possibly set them up on RHESUS..
Whatever is required to compile SimH and libpcap on VMS 8.4, I assume.
I'm intrigued to see how well the VAX simulation does on an Integrity in an OS that was actually deliberately ported to Itanium, not accidentally stuffed on there 'because'. If someone has the OpenVMS Integrity binaries that'd do for a start...
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On 17 Jan 2013, at 17:36, Dave McGuire wrote:
Not a damn thing. ;) It hasn't been powered on in about two years.
For shame.
I installed Linux on it, but it was slower than pissing tar.
Not only that but it doesn't like working all that much, especially when it comes to desktops and GUIs.
OpenVMS 8.4 (2011 version) runs like hot snot on my zx6000 :D I wouldn't run Debian on it - it's a waste of electricity for just another Linux box. HP-UX... well lets just say a favourite joke about THAT was to reverse the H and the P then pronounce it as an acronym ;)
And this is a quad Itanium2 with like 6GB of RAM at some ungodly high clock speed!
Not enough RAM by a long chalk. For a 4-way Itanium you need 8GB MINIMUM IMHO :)
I patted my UltraSPARCs (which run at HALF that clock rate)
affectionately on that day.
I miss using my U60 but Oracle took my ball away and now I'm grumpy :(
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On 17 Jan 2013, at 13:56, "John H. Reinhardt" <johnhreinhardt at yahoo.com> wrote:
On 1/17/2013 1:12 PM, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
On 17 Jan 2013, at 19:59, Dave McGuire<mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 01/17/2013 12:57 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Well I'm not running that anywhere, so I can't help you with that, I'm
sorry. My one Itanium2-based system will not (or so I'm told) run VMS.
What does your Itanium2 run, then?
Not a damn thing. ;) It hasn't been powered on in about two years. I
installed Linux on it, but it was slower than pissing tar.
Here's a crazy idea: Install Windows Server I64, and put a bunch of SIMH instances on it..
I have a ZX2000 with a 1.4Ghz processor and 1GB RAM that runs Windows 2000 server quite nicely. On my "To do" list is converting it to OpenVMS but first I have to get the 100GB of shared files off to another file server.
Eeeeek. 2000. If only NT 4 ran on Itanium. ;)
My "To do" list is embarrassingly long.
John H. Reinhardt
On 1/17/2013 1:12 PM, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
On 17 Jan 2013, at 19:59, Dave McGuire<mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 01/17/2013 12:57 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Well I'm not running that anywhere, so I can't help you with that, I'm
sorry. My one Itanium2-based system will not (or so I'm told) run VMS.
What does your Itanium2 run, then?
Not a damn thing. ;) It hasn't been powered on in about two years. I
installed Linux on it, but it was slower than pissing tar.
Here's a crazy idea: Install Windows Server I64, and put a bunch of SIMH instances on it..
I have a ZX2000 with a 1.4Ghz processor and 1GB RAM that runs Windows 2000 server quite nicely. On my "To do" list is converting it to OpenVMS but first I have to get the 100GB of shared files off to another file server.
My "To do" list is embarrassingly long.
John H. Reinhardt
On 17 Jan 2013, at 13:12, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
On 17 Jan 2013, at 19:59, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 01/17/2013 12:57 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Well I'm not running that anywhere, so I can't help you with that, I'm
sorry. My one Itanium2-based system will not (or so I'm told) run VMS.
What does your Itanium2 run, then?
Not a damn thing. ;) It hasn't been powered on in about two years. I
installed Linux on it, but it was slower than pissing tar.
Here's a crazy idea: Install Windows Server I64, and put a bunch of SIMH instances on it..
That's a terrible idea. I like it.
On 17 Jan 2013, at 19:59, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 01/17/2013 12:57 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Well I'm not running that anywhere, so I can't help you with that, I'm
sorry. My one Itanium2-based system will not (or so I'm told) run VMS.
What does your Itanium2 run, then?
Not a damn thing. ;) It hasn't been powered on in about two years. I
installed Linux on it, but it was slower than pissing tar.
Here's a crazy idea: Install Windows Server I64, and put a bunch of SIMH instances on it..
On 01/17/2013 01:04 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Well I'm not running that anywhere, so I can't help you
with that, I'm sorry. My one Itanium2-based system will
not (or so I'm told) run VMS.
What does your Itanium2 run, then?
Not a damn thing. ;) It hasn't been powered on in about two
years. I installed Linux on it, but it was slower than pissing
tar.
That sounds like Linux. ;)
Linux doesn't do that anywhere else. (well, it used to on Alphas,
where it spent most of the CPU cycles in the alignment trap
handler..)
Hmmm. Something better than Linux should run on an Alpha or an
Itanium anyway. Why waste all that potential loading copies of the
GPL in to RAM? ;)
Well. I have no issue with Linux (I used to, but not anymore), but I
just have nothing else to run on this machine. Which is pretty much why
it has sat powered off for two years.
And this is a quad Itanium2 with like 6GB of RAM at some
ungodly high clock speed! I patted my UltraSPARCs (which run at
HALF that clock rate) affectionately on that day.
There's a reason I'm interested in SPARC gear. ;)
There's a reason I RUN SPARC gear. ;)
Speaking of SPARC, I wonder if fork() is still slow of
FreeBSD/SPARC.
Everything is still slow in FreeBSD/SPARC. I cannot fathom why anyone
would want to run such a PC-centric OS on SPARC. NetBSD is far better
suited there. If you've got a PC, definitely go FreeBSD.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 17 Jan 2013, at 12:59, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 01/17/2013 12:57 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Well I'm not running that anywhere, so I can't help you with that, I'm
sorry. My one Itanium2-based system will not (or so I'm told) run VMS.
What does your Itanium2 run, then?
Not a damn thing. ;) It hasn't been powered on in about two years. I
installed Linux on it, but it was slower than pissing tar.
That sounds like Linux. ;)
Linux doesn't do that anywhere else. (well, it used to on Alphas,
where it spent most of the CPU cycles in the alignment trap handler..)
Hmmm. Something better than Linux should run on an Alpha or an Itanium anyway. Why waste all that potential loading copies of the GPL in to RAM? ;)
And this is
a quad Itanium2 with like 6GB of RAM at some ungodly high clock speed!
I patted my UltraSPARCs (which run at HALF that clock rate)
affectionately on that day.
There's a reason I'm interested in SPARC gear. ;)
There's a reason I RUN SPARC gear. ;)
Speaking of SPARC, I wonder if fork() is still slow of FreeBSD/SPARC.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
