On 12/25/2012 04:03 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
We could do OpenVPN Layer 2 bridging. Can it be made to handle the
multicast bits? My ISP here (512k up!) blocks L2TP proper
unfortunately.
Wow. Time to move!
My primary VPS would need another IP and a little bit of MAC hackery,
but I might be able to get my provider to allow that. It runs
FreeBSD and I don't think any alpha simulators run on it
natively alphavm-free may run in linux binary compat, though...
Real (and FAST!) Alphas are not at all tough to find; I don't see the
point of Alpha emulators.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 25 Dec 2012, at 23:03, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
We could do OpenVPN Layer 2 bridging. Can it be made to handle the multicast bits? My ISP here (512k up!) blocks L2TP proper unfortunately.
My mail server on the other hand has plenty of bandwidth and blocks no protocols, but it's running low on RAM.
My primary VPS would need another IP and a little bit of MAC hackery, but I might be able to get my provider to allow that. It runs FreeBSD and I don't think any alpha simulators run on it natively alphavm-free may run in linux binary compat, though...
Let me know when you got the VPN up - I'll roll a SIMH-VAX and cluster it with you :)
Sampsa
On 25 Dec 2012, at 16:00, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
On 25 Dec 2012, at 22:51, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 25 Dec 2012, at 15:40, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
On 25 Dec 2012, at 22:38, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
http://www2.openvms.org/kparris/Bootcamp_2010_Using_IP_OpenVMS_Cluster_Inte…
It even mentioned hobbyist clusters over the internet as a practical implementation. ;)
I'd be up for trying a cluster over the internet
Do you have the bandwidth for a high-performance one, or would we end up with a high-latency constantly-exploding one? ;)
My London site does about 1.5 Mbps up, 17 down, local (UK) ping of about 20-30 ms, up time at the moment is 57:13:59, but that's because I rebooted the router after some changes.
On a related note: How hard would it be to modify Johnny's bridge to carry LAN-over-IP traffic? Not sure I want to upgrade my boxes to 8.4
We could do OpenVPN Layer 2 bridging. Can it be made to handle the multicast bits? My ISP here (512k up!) blocks L2TP proper unfortunately.
My mail server on the other hand has plenty of bandwidth and blocks no protocols, but it's running low on RAM.
My primary VPS would need another IP and a little bit of MAC hackery, but I might be able to get my provider to allow that. It runs FreeBSD and I don't think any alpha simulators run on it natively alphavm-free may run in linux binary compat, though...
Sampsa
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On 25 Dec 2012, at 22:59, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
I have access to systems with lots of bandwidth, they just implement a bit of MAC filtering and have limited IPs.
I'm actually selling the London apartment and moving my boxes to a co-location facility - that should dramatically increase bandwidth.
At the moment they're on a DSL :(
Sampsa
That's already done, look at http://rhesus.sampsa.com/cgi-bin/hecnetinfo/hecnetinfo.com?q=CHIMPY
We could just add another field for LAT/LONG after location.
sampsa
On 25 Dec 2012, at 22:53, Rob Jarratt <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com> wrote:
I have gone ahead and added lat/long to VAX780::INFO.TXT.
Perhaps we should define some common tags and formats to make the INFO.TXT
machine readable? I am using this at the moment:
Owner: Rob Jarratt
Location: Stockport, England
Latitude: +53.3809
Longitude: -2.2172
Regards
Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE]
On Behalf Of Cory Smelosky
Sent: 25 December 2012 18:25
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] HECnet mapping project
On 25 Dec 2012, at 07:36, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
On 25 Dec 2012, at 14:34, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
Another kind of graph that would be cool (but even harder) would be to
have a map of the world, with the nodes placed out, and connections. That
kind of map would work to have everything illustrated as point-to-point
connections. But figuring out the physical locations is another story. (I
guess
the only way would be if people could put that kind of information in some
file, in a format that would be machine parseable.)
If people put their geographical location in GPS cords on their INFO.TXT
files, I don't see why this would be impossible.
I have my general area in my INFO.TXT. Nothing /exact/ though. ;)
sampsa
On 25 Dec 2012, at 22:51, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 25 Dec 2012, at 15:40, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
On 25 Dec 2012, at 22:38, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
http://www2.openvms.org/kparris/Bootcamp_2010_Using_IP_OpenVMS_Cluster_Inte…
It even mentioned hobbyist clusters over the internet as a practical implementation. ;)
I'd be up for trying a cluster over the internet
Do you have the bandwidth for a high-performance one, or would we end up with a high-latency constantly-exploding one? ;)
My London site does about 1.5 Mbps up, 17 down, local (UK) ping of about 20-30 ms, up time at the moment is 57:13:59, but that's because I rebooted the router after some changes.
On a related note: How hard would it be to modify Johnny's bridge to carry LAN-over-IP traffic? Not sure I want to upgrade my boxes to 8.4...
Sampsa
.
On 25 Dec 2012, at 15:56, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 12/25/2012 03:51 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
http://www2.openvms.org/kparris/Bootcamp_2010_Using_IP_OpenVMS_Cluster_Inte…
It even mentioned hobbyist clusters over the internet as a practical implementation. ;)
I'd be up for trying a cluster over the internet
Do you have the bandwidth for a high-performance one, or would we end up with a high-latency constantly-exploding one? ;)
I have lots of bandwidth here. But keep in mind, in clustering over
Ethernet, the "L" in "LAVC" stands for "Local". ;) I really don't see
it working well at all, but that's based on having done it locally, not
from actually trying it on a WAN.
I have access to systems with lots of bandwidth, they just implement a bit of MAC filtering and have limited IPs.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 12/25/2012 03:51 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
http://www2.openvms.org/kparris/Bootcamp_2010_Using_IP_OpenVMS_Cluster_Inte…
It even mentioned hobbyist clusters over the internet as a practical implementation. ;)
I'd be up for trying a cluster over the internet
Do you have the bandwidth for a high-performance one, or would we end up with a high-latency constantly-exploding one? ;)
I have lots of bandwidth here. But keep in mind, in clustering over
Ethernet, the "L" in "LAVC" stands for "Local". ;) I really don't see
it working well at all, but that's based on having done it locally, not
from actually trying it on a WAN.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 25 Dec 2012, at 15:53, "Rob Jarratt" <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com> wrote:
I have gone ahead and added lat/long to VAX780::INFO.TXT.
Perhaps we should define some common tags and formats to make the INFO.TXT
machine readable? I am using this at the moment:
Someone should make an INFO.TXT generator. ;)
Owner: Rob Jarratt
Location: Stockport, England
Latitude: +53.3809
Longitude: -2.2172
Regards
Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE]
On Behalf Of Cory Smelosky
Sent: 25 December 2012 18:25
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] HECnet mapping project
On 25 Dec 2012, at 07:36, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
On 25 Dec 2012, at 14:34, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
Another kind of graph that would be cool (but even harder) would be to
have a map of the world, with the nodes placed out, and connections. That
kind of map would work to have everything illustrated as point-to-point
connections. But figuring out the physical locations is another story. (I
guess
the only way would be if people could put that kind of information in some
file, in a format that would be machine parseable.)
If people put their geographical location in GPS cords on their INFO.TXT
files, I don't see why this would be impossible.
I have my general area in my INFO.TXT. Nothing /exact/ though. ;)
sampsa
I have gone ahead and added lat/long to VAX780::INFO.TXT.
Perhaps we should define some common tags and formats to make the INFO.TXT
machine readable? I am using this at the moment:
Owner: Rob Jarratt
Location: Stockport, England
Latitude: +53.3809
Longitude: -2.2172
Regards
Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE]
On Behalf Of Cory Smelosky
Sent: 25 December 2012 18:25
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] HECnet mapping project
On 25 Dec 2012, at 07:36, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
On 25 Dec 2012, at 14:34, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
Another kind of graph that would be cool (but even harder) would be to
have a map of the world, with the nodes placed out, and connections. That
kind of map would work to have everything illustrated as point-to-point
connections. But figuring out the physical locations is another story. (I
guess
the only way would be if people could put that kind of information in some
file, in a format that would be machine parseable.)
If people put their geographical location in GPS cords on their INFO.TXT
files, I don't see why this would be impossible.
I have my general area in my INFO.TXT. Nothing /exact/ though. ;)
sampsa
