HECnet October 2012

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rebuild RSTS/E monitor, was Re: [HECnet] RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 10/28/2012 03:25 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: Yes, under emulation but I keep getting stuck when it asks for disk 2 when I try to reinstall. which I've not found an image of on ftp.trailing-edge.com what would the filename for the second tape be? "disk 2"?? What tape image are you installing from? rstse_v10_1_install_sep10_1992.tap It wasn't called "disk 2" exactly .but it wanted a second tape, and I'm not sure which second tape it wants. Did it ask for a "library tape", perchance? In any case, grab this one: http://www.neurotica.com/htdocs/misc/rsts10-1.tap Let me know when you have it so I can remove it from the server. Run your install again from that one; it won't ask you for anything else. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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rebuild RSTS/E monitor, was Re: [HECnet] RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by b4＠gewt.net

On Oct 28, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 10/28/2012 03:22 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: Yes, under emulation but I keep getting stuck when it asks for disk 2 when I try to reinstall. which I've not found an image of on ftp.trailing-edge.com what would the filename for the second tape be? "disk 2"?? What tape image are you installing from? rstse_v10_1_install_sep10_1992.tap It wasn't called "disk 2" exactly .but it wanted a second tape, and I'm not sure which second tape it wants. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

12 years

rebuild RSTS/E monitor, was Re: [HECnet] RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 10/28/2012 03:22 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: Yes, under emulation but I keep getting stuck when it asks for disk 2 when I try to reinstall. which I've not found an image of on ftp.trailing-edge.com what would the filename for the second tape be? "disk 2"?? What tape image are you installing from? -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

12 years

rebuild RSTS/E monitor, was Re: [HECnet] RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by b4＠gewt.net

On Oct 28, 2012, at 3:16 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 10/28/2012 03:15 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: Also if you figure out how to rebuild the monitor let me know. Rebuilding the monitor is easy: $ run sysgen$:sysgen [answer lots of questions here] $ assign/system sy:[0,12] sysgen$$ $ assign/system sy:[0,1] system$$ $ @sysgen (or "$ submit sysgen") Either this doesn't apply to 10.1, or I've broken RSTS/E ;) $ run sysgen$:sysgen run sysgen$:sysgen ^ ?File does not exist $ @sysgen @sysgen ^ ?File does not exist (yes, I assigned the logicals to) You've broken RSTS/E. ;) This works under 10.1. Can you do a fresh install from tape and try it from there? (you're doing this under emulation, right?) Yes, under emulation but I keep getting stuck when it asks for disk 2 when I try to reinstall. which I've not found an image of on ftp.trailing-edge.com what would the filename for the second tape be? -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

12 years

rebuild RSTS/E monitor, was Re: [HECnet] RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 10/28/2012 03:15 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: Also if you figure out how to rebuild the monitor let me know. Rebuilding the monitor is easy: $ run sysgen$:sysgen [answer lots of questions here] $ assign/system sy:[0,12] sysgen$$ $ assign/system sy:[0,1] system$$ $ @sysgen (or "$ submit sysgen") Either this doesn't apply to 10.1, or I've broken RSTS/E ;) $ run sysgen$:sysgen run sysgen$:sysgen ^ ?File does not exist $ @sysgen @sysgen ^ ?File does not exist (yes, I assigned the logicals to) You've broken RSTS/E. ;) This works under 10.1. Can you do a fresh install from tape and try it from there? (you're doing this under emulation, right?) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

12 years

rebuild RSTS/E monitor, was Re: [HECnet] RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by b4＠gewt.net

On Oct 28, 2012, at 2:56 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 10/28/2012 12:03 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: Also if you figure out how to rebuild the monitor let me know. Rebuilding the monitor is easy: $ run sysgen$:sysgen [answer lots of questions here] $ assign/system sy:[0,12] sysgen$$ $ assign/system sy:[0,1] system$$ $ @sysgen (or "$ submit sysgen") Either this doesn't apply to 10.1, or I've broken RSTS/E ;) $ run sysgen$:sysgen run sysgen$:sysgen ^ ?File does not exist $ @sysgen @sysgen ^ ?File does not exist (yes, I assigned the logicals to) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

12 years

rebuild RSTS/E monitor, was Re: [HECnet] RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 10/28/2012 12:03 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: Also if you figure out how to rebuild the monitor let me know. Rebuilding the monitor is easy: $ run sysgen$:sysgen [answer lots of questions here] $ assign/system sy:[0,12] sysgen$$ $ assign/system sy:[0,1] system$$ $ @sysgen (or "$ submit sysgen") -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

12 years

RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by jg＠jordi.guillaumes.name

El 28/10/2012, a les 18:18, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> va escriure: DECmail is also installed but not configured. And I may've just figured out why DECnet wasn't working, I'm going to go read the documentation and post back. Okay, I've maybe made progress. Alpha connecting to the RSTS/E system: $ set host 33.301 %SYSTEM-F-NOSUCHOBJ, network object is unknown at remote node And on 33.301: Event type 34.1, Object spawn failure Occurred 15-Oct-25 13:11:52.6 on node 33.301 (GEWT1) Reason: Unknown Object identification Source node = 33.302 Source process = 0 556 0 SYSTEM Destination process = 42 (I have no idea what's with the 15-OCT-25, the date is set correctly on the system ) Attempting to reach 33.302 from 33.301: $ set host 33.302 Connection Established to VAX/VMS Node 33.302 ?Unsupported Virtual Terminal Protocol. And it just times out when the VAX tries to contact the RSTS/E system/RSTS/E system tries to contact the VAX. VAX and ALPHA can reach each other and the Alpha can reach HECnet via the VAX Any ideas? RSTS does not support the CTERM protocol. It needs the old RTERM. I'm not sure if VMS Alpha supports it. VMS VAX 7.3 does: $ set host/app=rterm bitxot %REM-I-CONNECTION, connection made using RTERM protocol %REM-I-REMOTE, connection established to remote node BITXOT:: RSTS V10.1-L 28-Oct-12 19:37 User: 200,1 Password: Last interactive login on 28-Oct-12, 19:36 at KB37: Last non-interactive login on 06-Jun-12, 00:59 Jordi Guillaumes i Pons jg at jordi.guillaumes.name HECnet: BITXOV::JGUILLAUMES

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RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by b4＠gewt.net

On Oct 28, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On Oct 28, 2012, at 9:48 AM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: On 27 Oct 2012, at 21:19, Cory Smelosky wrote: On Oct 27, 2012, at 2:06 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 10/27/2012 03:57 AM, Sampsa Laine wrote: That reminds me, if someone has a turnkey RSX or RSTS box around (that I could just plug in to SIMH and play with), ideally with DECNET support, please let me know. If you can't find one, I can make a RSTS image up for you. (I've never done DECnet under RSX, so that'd take me awhile to figure out) Which version of RSTS? I can give my disk image for my install of 10.1 if anyone wants to try and figure out what I did wrong or wants to make it in to a turnkey install it's pretty basic as i'm new to RSTS. (it has DECmail though) I'm cool with RSTS - whatever version is fine. Try http://gewt.net/rsts.7z It's RSTS/E v10.1 (so DCL OOTB), DECnet is installed but misconfigured, if you figure it out let me know. Also if you figure out how to rebuild the monitor let me know. A config is included in the archive that you'll want to modify a bit. I know the disk image says "v92" but trust me, it's 10.1. Password for 1,2 is "epicfail" (don't ask) It seems to not want to boot in simh git, but works in 3.8 and 3.9. (git may've been updated since I last tried, I should rebuild with debugging symbols and try and find the bug if it wasn't just me messing up). DECmail is also installed but not configured. And I may've just figured out why DECnet wasn't working, I'm going to go read the documentation and post back. Okay, I've maybe made progress. Alpha connecting to the RSTS/E system: $ set host 33.301 %SYSTEM-F-NOSUCHOBJ, network object is unknown at remote node And on 33.301: Event type 34.1, Object spawn failure Occurred 15-Oct-25 13:11:52.6 on node 33.301 (GEWT1) Reason: Unknown Object identification Source node = 33.302 Source process = 0 556 0 SYSTEM Destination process = 42 (I have no idea what's with the 15-OCT-25, the date is set correctly on the system ) Attempting to reach 33.302 from 33.301: $ set host 33.302 Connection Established to VAX/VMS Node 33.302 ?Unsupported Virtual Terminal Protocol. And it just times out when the VAX tries to contact the RSTS/E system/RSTS/E system tries to contact the VAX. VAX and ALPHA can reach each other and the Alpha can reach HECnet via the VAX Any ideas? If I've made a terrible example for a turnkey install tell me so I can try again. Sampsa PS: I will plague people with noob questions.. If you get good answers, let me know.

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RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by b4＠gewt.net

On Oct 28, 2012, at 9:48 AM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: On 27 Oct 2012, at 21:19, Cory Smelosky wrote: On Oct 27, 2012, at 2:06 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 10/27/2012 03:57 AM, Sampsa Laine wrote: That reminds me, if someone has a turnkey RSX or RSTS box around (that I could just plug in to SIMH and play with), ideally with DECNET support, please let me know. If you can't find one, I can make a RSTS image up for you. (I've never done DECnet under RSX, so that'd take me awhile to figure out) Which version of RSTS? I can give my disk image for my install of 10.1 if anyone wants to try and figure out what I did wrong or wants to make it in to a turnkey install it's pretty basic as i'm new to RSTS. (it has DECmail though) I'm cool with RSTS - whatever version is fine. Try http://gewt.net/rsts.7z It's RSTS/E v10.1 (so DCL OOTB), DECnet is installed but misconfigured, if you figure it out let me know. Also if you figure out how to rebuild the monitor let me know. A config is included in the archive that you'll want to modify a bit. I know the disk image says "v92" but trust me, it's 10.1. Password for 1,2 is "epicfail" (don't ask) It seems to not want to boot in simh git, but works in 3.8 and 3.9. (git may've been updated since I last tried, I should rebuild with debugging symbols and try and find the bug if it wasn't just me messing up). DECmail is also installed but not configured. And I may've just figured out why DECnet wasn't working, I'm going to go read the documentation and post back. If I've made a terrible example for a turnkey install tell me so I can try again. Sampsa PS: I will plague people with noob questions.. If you get good answers, let me know.

12 years

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