HECnet October 2012

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rebuild RSTS/E monitor, was Re: [HECnet] RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by b4＠gewt.net

On Oct 28, 2012, at 6:45 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 10/28/2012 06:41 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: I must be terrible at installing RSTS/E, used TQ, and post-install I still can't run sysgen ;) (yeah, I know I could've generated it from the installer but that's not the point). Define "can't run sysgen". ;) What's happening? Same problem? Yeah, same problem, is there a layered product i'm forgetting or a post-reboot login configuration step? Happen to have a pre-built rsts/e disk around? I seem to be terrible at installing it myself. I'll make one up for you. But first, let's try to figure out what's going wrong. I'm installing everything that it asks to install and it copies everything to disk, so I must be forgetting a step outside of the installer. There's a sysgen.sil in [0,1] but that doesn't seem to be a recognised executable. This is very weird. Accepting defaults for everything, and installing everything, I can run a sysgen on a clean, just-installed system. What could possibly be different here? You also have more RSTS/E experience than I do, so I may be missing something really obvious. I'm going to run through it again here. Document the steps in case i'm forgetting one. :) About sysgen.sil; that's a SIL, Saved Image Library. That's the format monitors are saved in; you don't execute those under RSTS directly. Ah, that would explain it. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

12 years

rebuild RSTS/E monitor, was Re: [HECnet] RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 10/28/2012 06:41 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: I must be terrible at installing RSTS/E, used TQ, and post-install I still can't run sysgen ;) (yeah, I know I could've generated it from the installer but that's not the point). Define "can't run sysgen". ;) What's happening? Same problem? Yeah, same problem, is there a layered product i'm forgetting or a post-reboot login configuration step? Happen to have a pre-built rsts/e disk around? I seem to be terrible at installing it myself. I'll make one up for you. But first, let's try to figure out what's going wrong. I'm installing everything that it asks to install and it copies everything to disk, so I must be forgetting a step outside of the installer. There's a sysgen.sil in [0,1] but that doesn't seem to be a recognised executable. This is very weird. Accepting defaults for everything, and installing everything, I can run a sysgen on a clean, just-installed system. What could possibly be different here? I'm going to run through it again here. About sysgen.sil; that's a SIL, Saved Image Library. That's the format monitors are saved in; you don't execute those under RSTS directly. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

12 years

rebuild RSTS/E monitor, was Re: [HECnet] RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by b4＠gewt.net

On Oct 28, 2012, at 5:17 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 10/28/2012 04:20 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: I must be terrible at installing RSTS/E, used TQ, and post-install I still can't run sysgen ;) (yeah, I know I could've generated it from the installer but that's not the point). Define "can't run sysgen". ;) What's happening? Same problem? Yeah, same problem, is there a layered product i'm forgetting or a post-reboot login configuration step? Happen to have a pre-built rsts/e disk around? I seem to be terrible at installing it myself. I'll make one up for you. But first, let's try to figure out what's going wrong. I'm installing everything that it asks to install and it copies everything to disk, so I must be forgetting a step outside of the installer. There's a sysgen.sil in [0,1] but that doesn't seem to be a recognised executable. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

12 years

rebuild RSTS/E monitor, was Re: [HECnet] RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 10/28/2012 04:20 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: I must be terrible at installing RSTS/E, used TQ, and post-install I still can't run sysgen ;) (yeah, I know I could've generated it from the installer but that's not the point). Define "can't run sysgen". ;) What's happening? Same problem? Happen to have a pre-built rsts/e disk around? I seem to be terrible at installing it myself. I'll make one up for you. But first, let's try to figure out what's going wrong. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

12 years

rebuild RSTS/E monitor, was Re: [HECnet] RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by b4＠gewt.net

On Oct 28, 2012, at 4:01 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 10/28/2012 03:58 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: On Oct 28, 2012, at 3:57 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On Oct 28, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On Oct 28, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 10/28/2012 03:25 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: Yes, under emulation but I keep getting stuck when it asks for disk 2 when I try to reinstall. which I've not found an image of on ftp.trailing-edge.com what would the filename for the second tape be? "disk 2"?? What tape image are you installing from? rstse_v10_1_install_sep10_1992.tap It wasn't called "disk 2" exactly .but it wanted a second tape, and I'm not sure which second tape it wants. Did it ask for a "library tape", perchance? In any case, grab this one: http://www.neurotica.com/htdocs/misc/rsts10-1.tap Let me know when you have it so I can remove it from the server. Run your install again from that one; it won't ask you for anything else. Got it, re-running install now. Please mount volume 2 on _MT0:. Press RETURN to continue : Now, what's volume 2? ;) (i'm using your tape image) Never mind, reattaching the same tape worked... Ahhh ok. I must be terrible at installing RSTS/E, used TQ, and post-install I still can't run sysgen ;) (yeah, I know I could've generated it from the installer but that's not the point). Happen to have a pre-built rsts/e disk around? I seem to be terrible at installing it myself. -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

12 years

rebuild RSTS/E monitor, was Re: [HECnet] RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 10/28/2012 03:58 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: On Oct 28, 2012, at 3:57 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On Oct 28, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On Oct 28, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 10/28/2012 03:25 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: Yes, under emulation but I keep getting stuck when it asks for disk 2 when I try to reinstall. which I've not found an image of on ftp.trailing-edge.com what would the filename for the second tape be? "disk 2"?? What tape image are you installing from? rstse_v10_1_install_sep10_1992.tap It wasn't called "disk 2" exactly .but it wanted a second tape, and I'm not sure which second tape it wants. Did it ask for a "library tape", perchance? In any case, grab this one: http://www.neurotica.com/htdocs/misc/rsts10-1.tap Let me know when you have it so I can remove it from the server. Run your install again from that one; it won't ask you for anything else. Got it, re-running install now. Please mount volume 2 on _MT0:. Press RETURN to continue : Now, what's volume 2? ;) (i'm using your tape image) Never mind, reattaching the same tape worked... Ahhh ok. -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

12 years

rebuild RSTS/E monitor, was Re: [HECnet] RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 10/28/2012 03:57 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: Please mount volume 2 on _MT0:. Press RETURN to continue : Now, what's volume 2? ;) (i'm using your tape image) WTF?! I've done DOZENS of installs from that image. Dozens. Never saw that. Oh, wait...MT0:...TU10? It thinks it knows how long the tape is, but it's not getting it right. Attach it as an MSCP device, say tq0, and boot from that. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

12 years

rebuild RSTS/E monitor, was Re: [HECnet] RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by b4＠gewt.net

On Oct 28, 2012, at 3:57 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On Oct 28, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On Oct 28, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 10/28/2012 03:25 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: Yes, under emulation but I keep getting stuck when it asks for disk 2 when I try to reinstall. which I've not found an image of on ftp.trailing-edge.com what would the filename for the second tape be? "disk 2"?? What tape image are you installing from? rstse_v10_1_install_sep10_1992.tap It wasn't called "disk 2" exactly .but it wanted a second tape, and I'm not sure which second tape it wants. Did it ask for a "library tape", perchance? In any case, grab this one: http://www.neurotica.com/htdocs/misc/rsts10-1.tap Let me know when you have it so I can remove it from the server. Run your install again from that one; it won't ask you for anything else. Got it, re-running install now. Please mount volume 2 on _MT0:. Press RETURN to continue : Now, what's volume 2? ;) (i'm using your tape image) Never mind, reattaching the same tape worked... -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

12 years

rebuild RSTS/E monitor, was Re: [HECnet] RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by b4＠gewt.net

On Oct 28, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On Oct 28, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 10/28/2012 03:25 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: Yes, under emulation but I keep getting stuck when it asks for disk 2 when I try to reinstall. which I've not found an image of on ftp.trailing-edge.com what would the filename for the second tape be? "disk 2"?? What tape image are you installing from? rstse_v10_1_install_sep10_1992.tap It wasn't called "disk 2" exactly .but it wanted a second tape, and I'm not sure which second tape it wants. Did it ask for a "library tape", perchance? In any case, grab this one: http://www.neurotica.com/htdocs/misc/rsts10-1.tap Let me know when you have it so I can remove it from the server. Run your install again from that one; it won't ask you for anything else. Got it, re-running install now. Please mount volume 2 on _MT0:. Press RETURN to continue : Now, what's volume 2? ;) (i'm using your tape image) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

12 years

rebuild RSTS/E monitor, was Re: [HECnet] RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by b4＠gewt.net

On Oct 28, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 10/28/2012 03:25 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: Yes, under emulation but I keep getting stuck when it asks for disk 2 when I try to reinstall. which I've not found an image of on ftp.trailing-edge.com what would the filename for the second tape be? "disk 2"?? What tape image are you installing from? rstse_v10_1_install_sep10_1992.tap It wasn't called "disk 2" exactly .but it wanted a second tape, and I'm not sure which second tape it wants. Did it ask for a "library tape", perchance? In any case, grab this one: http://www.neurotica.com/htdocs/misc/rsts10-1.tap Let me know when you have it so I can remove it from the server. Run your install again from that one; it won't ask you for anything else. Got it, re-running install now. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

12 years

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