HECnet October 2012

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by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 10/27/2012 03:57 AM, Sampsa Laine wrote: That reminds me, if someone has a turnkey RSX or RSTS box around (that I could just plug in to SIMH and play with), ideally with DECNET support, please let me know. If you can't find one, I can make a RSTS image up for you. (I've never done DECnet under RSX, so that'd take me awhile to figure out) I feel so out of the loop with all this pre-my-actual-physical birth chatter. You fit in just fine with us old farts. I don't know what that says about you. ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

12 years

RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by sampsa＠mac.com

That reminds me, if someone has a turnkey RSX or RSTS box around (that I could just plug in to SIMH and play with), ideally with DECNET support, please let me know. I feel so out of the loop with all this pre-my-actual-physical birth chatter. Sampsa On 27 Oct 2012, at 04:31, Johnny Billquist wrote: So, are both of your simulated machines on the same physical machine? And how are you connected to the rest of HECnet? Johnny On 2012-10-27 02:33, Cory Smelosky wrote: Okay, I have OpenVMS and RSTS/E both installed with DECnet configured, and the simulated VAX is acting as a level 1 router (as far as I know, anyway I set it to act as a router in netconfig). However, neither the emulated VAX nor the emulated PDP-11 can SET HOST to each other, and the simulated PDP-11 cannot reach the rest of HECnet. They both show adjacency status changes for each other. DIR GEWT:: on the RSTS/E system (I'll call it GEWT1 for simplicity sake) prompts me for a password, and an invalid password results in OPCOM messages about invalid logins from its address (33.301). DIR GEWT1:: just results in -SYSTEM-F-UNREACHABLE, remote node is not currently reachable. I ran tcpdump to see if packets were going anywhere, and they were. https://www.refheap.com/paste/27fd44fa3ea5af2935eef8915 Is there something really obvious i'm missing? Please let me know, still learning my way around here. ;) (the networking setup: OpenVMS in SIMH in a FreeBSD VM that is bridged with the host (using bpf). RSTS/E is on the host attached to the bridge's interface (vmbr0). The host runs linux.) -- Cory

12 years

RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by b4＠gewt.net

On Oct 26, 2012, at 9:31 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: So, are both of your simulated machines on the same physical machine? And how are you connected to the rest of HECnet? Yes, and I can communicate with other VMs on the same physical machine without issue. I brought up a simulated alpha on the host and it can contact the simulated VAX fine, along with the rest of HECnet. i'm connected to the rest of HECnet through multinet's decnet-over-IP tunnel to Fred's systems. Johnny On 2012-10-27 02:33, Cory Smelosky wrote: Okay, I have OpenVMS and RSTS/E both installed with DECnet configured, and the simulated VAX is acting as a level 1 router (as far as I know, anyway I set it to act as a router in netconfig). However, neither the emulated VAX nor the emulated PDP-11 can SET HOST to each other, and the simulated PDP-11 cannot reach the rest of HECnet. They both show adjacency status changes for each other. DIR GEWT:: on the RSTS/E system (I'll call it GEWT1 for simplicity sake) prompts me for a password, and an invalid password results in OPCOM messages about invalid logins from its address (33.301). DIR GEWT1:: just results in -SYSTEM-F-UNREACHABLE, remote node is not currently reachable. I ran tcpdump to see if packets were going anywhere, and they were. https://www.refheap.com/paste/27fd44fa3ea5af2935eef8915 Is there something really obvious i'm missing? Please let me know, still learning my way around here. ;) (the networking setup: OpenVMS in SIMH in a FreeBSD VM that is bridged with the host (using bpf). RSTS/E is on the host attached to the bridge's interface (vmbr0). The host runs linux.) -- Cory

12 years

RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by bqt＠softjar.se

So, are both of your simulated machines on the same physical machine? And how are you connected to the rest of HECnet? Johnny On 2012-10-27 02:33, Cory Smelosky wrote: Okay, I have OpenVMS and RSTS/E both installed with DECnet configured, and the simulated VAX is acting as a level 1 router (as far as I know, anyway I set it to act as a router in netconfig). However, neither the emulated VAX nor the emulated PDP-11 can SET HOST to each other, and the simulated PDP-11 cannot reach the rest of HECnet. They both show adjacency status changes for each other. DIR GEWT:: on the RSTS/E system (I'll call it GEWT1 for simplicity sake) prompts me for a password, and an invalid password results in OPCOM messages about invalid logins from its address (33.301). DIR GEWT1:: just results in -SYSTEM-F-UNREACHABLE, remote node is not currently reachable. I ran tcpdump to see if packets were going anywhere, and they were. https://www.refheap.com/paste/27fd44fa3ea5af2935eef8915 Is there something really obvious i'm missing? Please let me know, still learning my way around here. ;) (the networking setup: OpenVMS in SIMH in a FreeBSD VM that is bridged with the host (using bpf). RSTS/E is on the host attached to the bridge's interface (vmbr0). The host runs linux.) -- Cory

12 years

RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by b4＠gewt.net

Okay, I have OpenVMS and RSTS/E both installed with DECnet configured, and the simulated VAX is acting as a level 1 router (as far as I know, anyway I set it to act as a router in netconfig). However, neither the emulated VAX nor the emulated PDP-11 can SET HOST to each other, and the simulated PDP-11 cannot reach the rest of HECnet. They both show adjacency status changes for each other. DIR GEWT:: on the RSTS/E system (I'll call it GEWT1 for simplicity sake) prompts me for a password, and an invalid password results in OPCOM messages about invalid logins from its address (33.301). DIR GEWT1:: just results in -SYSTEM-F-UNREACHABLE, remote node is not currently reachable. I ran tcpdump to see if packets were going anywhere, and they were. https://www.refheap.com/paste/27fd44fa3ea5af2935eef8915 Is there something really obvious i'm missing? Please let me know, still learning my way around here. ;) (the networking setup: OpenVMS in SIMH in a FreeBSD VM that is bridged with the host (using bpf). RSTS/E is on the host attached to the bridge's interface (vmbr0). The host runs linux.) -- Cory

12 years

embedded libraries for PDP-11, was Re: [HECnet] DECUS RSX C compiler

by Paul_Koning＠Dell.com

On Oct 26, 2012, at 4:53 PM, Dave McGuire wrote: On 10/26/2012 04:52 PM, Paul_Koning at Dell.com wrote: The 2.11BSD lib looks leaner, and I am using it in my pet OS project (I pick the pieces I need "on the run", I have not done a complete port... yet). If the above suggestion doesn't get you anywhere, perhaps avrlibc could be hacked into a PDP-11 library. All of the hardware support will have to be ripped out of course, but there are nice tight implementations of generic library functions in there. I took a look at that. It seems to be largely assembly code, which makes it not very helpful. I've lifted more than a few routines from it, and they've all been C. Guess I just got lucky. Sorry for the false start. No problem. Meanwhile, I'm digging through the rt11 sig tapes from trailing-edge, which seem to have various bits of decus c in them. It's hard to sort out what's what but I ran across a directory full of libc type things in c. So that looks promising. I also found RSTS libc pieces, which is nice for another day... paul

12 years

Area 6 restored

by md.benson＠gmail.com

On 26 Oct 2012, at 21:56, Brian Hechinger wrote: Who are you? :-P I'm not even sure myself at the moment, why? Is it important? ;) -- Mark Benson http://DECtec.info Twitter: @DECtecInfo HECnet: STAR69::MARK Online Resource & Mailing List for DEC Enthusiasts.

12 years

Area 6 restored

by wonko＠4amlunch.net

On 10/26/2012 3:08 PM, Mark Benson wrote: Hi, After prolonged downtime, and a major upheaval in my room, including shutting down my Microserver that formally ran 24/7, I have finally got STAR69 running agin and Area 6's routing functioning once more. STAR69 is not running on a RaspberryPi (old 256MB version) and seems to be working normally again. The bridge is also up on the same Linux unit. I bet no-one even noticed, right? ;) Who are you? :-P -brian

12 years

embedded libraries for PDP-11, was Re: [HECnet] DECUS RSX C compiler

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 10/26/2012 04:52 PM, Paul_Koning at Dell.com wrote: The 2.11BSD lib looks leaner, and I am using it in my pet OS project (I pick the pieces I need "on the run", I have not done a complete port... yet). If the above suggestion doesn't get you anywhere, perhaps avrlibc could be hacked into a PDP-11 library. All of the hardware support will have to be ripped out of course, but there are nice tight implementations of generic library functions in there. I took a look at that. It seems to be largely assembly code, which makes it not very helpful. I've lifted more than a few routines from it, and they've all been C. Guess I just got lucky. Sorry for the false start. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

12 years

embedded libraries for PDP-11, was Re: [HECnet] DECUS RSX C compiler

by Paul_Koning＠Dell.com

On Oct 22, 2012, at 3:32 PM, Dave McGuire wrote: ... The 2.11BSD lib looks leaner, and I am using it in my pet OS project (I pick the pieces I need "on the run", I have not done a complete port... yet). If the above suggestion doesn't get you anywhere, perhaps avrlibc could be hacked into a PDP-11 library. All of the hardware support will have to be ripped out of course, but there are nice tight implementations of generic library functions in there. I took a look at that. It seems to be largely assembly code, which makes it not very helpful. paul

12 years

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