HECnet December 2011

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by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

Hi guys, Is anyone attempting to download the Ultrix ISOs from SLAVE? If so, I'll save you a lot of time and pain by burning a CDROM and posting it. Regards, Mark.

12 years, 11 months

Any interest in Alpha software/documentation from March 2003?

by jeep＠scshome.net

Try this: $ define AXPBINMAR03 - DUSTY::AXPBINMAR031,DUSTY::AXPBINMAR032,DUSTY::AXPBINMAR033, - DUSTY::AXPBINMAR034,DUSTY::AXPBINMAR035,DUSTY::AXPBINMAR036, - DUSTY::AXPBINMAR037,DUSTY::AXPBINMAR038,DUSTY::AXPBINMAR039 $ directory/noheader/notrailer AXPBINMAR03:[000000]*.DIR I will leave the DOC's as an exercise to the reader/user :-) -Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of H Vlems Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 16:40 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: RE: [HECnet] Any interest in Alpha software/documentation from March 2003? Marc, is Dusty down? How do I log on to the system? Hans -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens Marc Chametzky Verzonden: vrijdag, december 2011 19:57 Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Any interest in Alpha software/documentation from March 2003? I have the CDs online now. You can find them in these paths on DUSTY:: AXPBINMAR031: AXPBINMAR032: AXPBINMAR033: AXPBINMAR034: AXPBINMAR035: AXPBINMAR036: AXPBINMAR037: AXPBINMAR038: AXPBINMAR039: Note that there is a [CDROM] directory that has CDMENU.EXE that you can run on Alpha systems to see what's on the different discs. There are also: AXPDOCMAR031: AXPDOCMAR032: AXPDOCMAR033: which contain the documentation. These are Bookreader files and should be usable on VAX or Alpha with the appropriate setup. --Marc

12 years, 11 months

Any interest in Alpha software/documentation from March 2003?

by hvlems＠zonnet.nl

It's bedtime :-) -----Original Message----- From: "Steve Davidson" <jeep at scshome.net> Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 17:33:47 To: <hecnet at Update.UU.SE> Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SESubject: RE: [HECnet] Any interest in Alpha software/documentation from March 2003? I just checked, DUSTY:: is up and running! It is directly connected to my network over a Multinet Tunnel. Use: $ dir dusty::axpbinmar031:[000000]*.dir to see what is in the first virtual volume then go from there... -Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of H Vlems Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 16:40 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: RE: [HECnet] Any interest in Alpha software/documentation from March 2003? Marc, is Dusty down? How do I log on to the system? Hans -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens Marc Chametzky Verzonden: vrijdag, december 2011 19:57 Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Any interest in Alpha software/documentation from March 2003? I have the CDs online now. You can find them in these paths on DUSTY:: AXPBINMAR031: AXPBINMAR032: AXPBINMAR033: AXPBINMAR034: AXPBINMAR035: AXPBINMAR036: AXPBINMAR037: AXPBINMAR038: AXPBINMAR039: Note that there is a [CDROM] directory that has CDMENU.EXE that you can run on Alpha systems to see what's on the different discs. There are also: AXPDOCMAR031: AXPDOCMAR032: AXPDOCMAR033: which contain the documentation. These are Bookreader files and should be usable on VAX or Alpha with the appropriate setup. --Marc

12 years, 11 months

Any interest in Alpha software/documentation from March 2003?

by jeep＠scshome.net

I just checked, DUSTY:: is up and running! It is directly connected to my network over a Multinet Tunnel. Use: $ dir dusty::axpbinmar031:[000000]*.dir to see what is in the first virtual volume then go from there... -Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of H Vlems Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 16:40 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: RE: [HECnet] Any interest in Alpha software/documentation from March 2003? Marc, is Dusty down? How do I log on to the system? Hans -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens Marc Chametzky Verzonden: vrijdag, december 2011 19:57 Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Any interest in Alpha software/documentation from March 2003? I have the CDs online now. You can find them in these paths on DUSTY:: AXPBINMAR031: AXPBINMAR032: AXPBINMAR033: AXPBINMAR034: AXPBINMAR035: AXPBINMAR036: AXPBINMAR037: AXPBINMAR038: AXPBINMAR039: Note that there is a [CDROM] directory that has CDMENU.EXE that you can run on Alpha systems to see what's on the different discs. There are also: AXPDOCMAR031: AXPDOCMAR032: AXPDOCMAR033: which contain the documentation. These are Bookreader files and should be usable on VAX or Alpha with the appropriate setup. --Marc

12 years, 11 months

Any interest in Alpha software/documentation from March 2003?

by hvlems＠zonnet.nl

Marc, is Dusty down? How do I log on to the system? Hans -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens Marc Chametzky Verzonden: vrijdag, december 2011 19:57 Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Any interest in Alpha software/documentation from March 2003? I have the CDs online now. You can find them in these paths on DUSTY:: AXPBINMAR031: AXPBINMAR032: AXPBINMAR033: AXPBINMAR034: AXPBINMAR035: AXPBINMAR036: AXPBINMAR037: AXPBINMAR038: AXPBINMAR039: Note that there is a [CDROM] directory that has CDMENU.EXE that you can run on Alpha systems to see what's on the different discs. There are also: AXPDOCMAR031: AXPDOCMAR032: AXPDOCMAR033: which contain the documentation. These are Bookreader files and should be usable on VAX or Alpha with the appropriate setup. --Marc

12 years, 11 months

Any interest in Alpha software/documentation from March 2003?

by sampsa＠mac.com

Sure. But a discreet http site which is not published will go under the radar. Just my 2 cents Sent from my iPad On 3 Dec 2011, at 18:54, Steve Davidson <jeep at scshome.net> wrote: As long as VMS continues to bring in money, HP *will* notice. Let's not give them a reason to change the hobbyist program in a way that hurts us all. This is clearly a case of better safe than sorry... -Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of hvlems at zonnet.nl Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 16:28 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Any interest in Alpha software/documentation from March 2003? Notice? Is there anyone left at HP who recognises VMS as a product HP owns? -----Original Message----- From: Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 21:09:13 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE<hecnet at Update.UU.SE> Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SESubject: Re: [HECnet] Any interest in Alpha software/documentation from March 2003? Steve, As long as we keep the links to ourselves I doubt HP will even notice. Sent from my iPad On 2 Dec 2011, at 04:54, Steve Davidson <jeep at scshome.net> wrote: -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Gregg Levine Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 23:38 To: hecnet at update.uu.se Subject: Re: [HECnet] Any interest in Alpha software/documentation from March 2003? On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Marc Chametzky <marc at bluevine.net> wrote: My vote would be to put them online within HECnet. I agree! Put the contents online (somehow) for us to view and use when possible. Okay, I'll do that then. I've copied the CDs to .iso files and now need to get my Linux system to get a bit more room to hold them and then once that's reconfigured, I'll mount them on DUSTY:: (and send out a message when that's done to let everyone know where it is). I will happily rip and host the CD images for HECnet member use - I run a data center, so I have plenty of bandwidth to spare. I'll even pay for shipping if required. Thanks very much for the offer, Ian, but I've got a very decent Internet connection here (all hail, Verizon FiOS :-) ), so once I resize my Linux disk to hold these files, I'll be set. --Marc Hello! Marc for those of us who as yet do not have access via the networking methods that you've worked out with the rest of the group, can you set up access for normal methods? IE, via FTP or even HTTP? ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." Marc, We need to be careful about putting VMS kits in the public space. It's one thing to make them available for HECnet users within HECnet but another to put them accessible to the whole world. HP might (probably will), take a very dim view of this. Let's not temp fate and give them ammunition to shutdown the program. -Steve

12 years, 11 months

Any interest in Alpha software/documentation from March 2003?

by hvlems＠zonnet.nl

That's what I was thinking Sampsa. OTOH Steve is quite right that we shouldn't rock the boat too much. Probably HP isn't interested in the media. But they are surely alerted if we'd trade licenses: which we don't (and never would). -----Original Message----- From: Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2011 22:12:35 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE<hecnet at Update.UU.SE> Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SESubject: Re: [HECnet] Any interest in Alpha software/documentation from March 2003? Sure. But a discreet http site which is not published will go under the radar. Just my 2 cents Sent from my iPad On 3 Dec 2011, at 18:54, Steve Davidson <jeep at scshome.net> wrote: As long as VMS continues to bring in money, HP *will* notice. Let's not give them a reason to change the hobbyist program in a way that hurts us all. This is clearly a case of better safe than sorry... -Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of hvlems at zonnet.nl Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 16:28 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Any interest in Alpha software/documentation from March 2003? Notice? Is there anyone left at HP who recognises VMS as a product HP owns? -----Original Message----- From: Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 21:09:13 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE<hecnet at Update.UU.SE> Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SESubject: Re: [HECnet] Any interest in Alpha software/documentation from March 2003? Steve, As long as we keep the links to ourselves I doubt HP will even notice. Sent from my iPad On 2 Dec 2011, at 04:54, Steve Davidson <jeep at scshome.net> wrote: -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Gregg Levine Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 23:38 To: hecnet at update.uu.se Subject: Re: [HECnet] Any interest in Alpha software/documentation from March 2003? On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Marc Chametzky <marc at bluevine.net> wrote: My vote would be to put them online within HECnet. I agree! Put the contents online (somehow) for us to view and use when possible. Okay, I'll do that then. I've copied the CDs to .iso files and now need to get my Linux system to get a bit more room to hold them and then once that's reconfigured, I'll mount them on DUSTY:: (and send out a message when that's done to let everyone know where it is). I will happily rip and host the CD images for HECnet member use - I run a data center, so I have plenty of bandwidth to spare. I'll even pay for shipping if required. Thanks very much for the offer, Ian, but I've got a very decent Internet connection here (all hail, Verizon FiOS :-) ), so once I resize my Linux disk to hold these files, I'll be set. --Marc Hello! Marc for those of us who as yet do not have access via the networking methods that you've worked out with the rest of the group, can you set up access for normal methods? IE, via FTP or even HTTP? ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." Marc, We need to be careful about putting VMS kits in the public space. It's one thing to make them available for HECnet users within HECnet but another to put them accessible to the whole world. HP might (probably will), take a very dim view of this. Let's not temp fate and give them ammunition to shutdown the program. -Steve

12 years, 11 months

Any interest in Alpha software/documentation from March 2003?

by robert.jarratt＠ntlworld.com

I would much prefer it if we didn't take risks with the hobbyist programme. I agree that this material should not appear on the web. Regards Rob -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Sampsa Laine Sent: 04 December 2011 22:13 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Any interest in Alpha software/documentation from March 2003? Sure. But a discreet http site which is not published will go under the radar. Just my 2 cents Sent from my iPad On 3 Dec 2011, at 18:54, Steve Davidson <jeep at scshome.net> wrote: As long as VMS continues to bring in money, HP *will* notice. Let's not give them a reason to change the hobbyist program in a way that hurts us all. This is clearly a case of better safe than sorry... -Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of hvlems at zonnet.nl Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 16:28 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Any interest in Alpha software/documentation from March 2003? Notice? Is there anyone left at HP who recognises VMS as a product HP owns? -----Original Message----- From: Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 21:09:13 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE<hecnet at Update.UU.SE> Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SESubject: Re: [HECnet] Any interest in Alpha software/documentation from March 2003? Steve, As long as we keep the links to ourselves I doubt HP will even notice. Sent from my iPad On 2 Dec 2011, at 04:54, Steve Davidson <jeep at scshome.net> wrote: -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Gregg Levine Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 23:38 To: hecnet at update.uu.se Subject: Re: [HECnet] Any interest in Alpha software/documentation from March 2003? On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Marc Chametzky <marc at bluevine.net> wrote: My vote would be to put them online within HECnet. I agree! Put the contents online (somehow) for us to view and use when possible. Okay, I'll do that then. I've copied the CDs to .iso files and now need to get my Linux system to get a bit more room to hold them and then once that's reconfigured, I'll mount them on DUSTY:: (and send out a message when that's done to let everyone know where it is). I will happily rip and host the CD images for HECnet member use - I run a data center, so I have plenty of bandwidth to spare. I'll even pay for shipping if required. Thanks very much for the offer, Ian, but I've got a very decent Internet connection here (all hail, Verizon FiOS :-) ), so once I resize my Linux disk to hold these files, I'll be set. --Marc Hello! Marc for those of us who as yet do not have access via the networking methods that you've worked out with the rest of the group, can you set up access for normal methods? IE, via FTP or even HTTP? ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." Marc, We need to be careful about putting VMS kits in the public space. It's one thing to make them available for HECnet users within HECnet but another to put them accessible to the whole world. HP might (probably will), take a very dim view of this. Let's not temp fate and give them ammunition to shutdown the program. -Steve

12 years, 11 months

Any interest in Alpha software/documentation from March 2003?

by jeep＠scshome.net

As long as VMS continues to bring in money, HP *will* notice. Let's not give them a reason to change the hobbyist program in a way that hurts us all. This is clearly a case of better safe than sorry... -Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of hvlems at zonnet.nl Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 16:28 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Any interest in Alpha software/documentation from March 2003? Notice? Is there anyone left at HP who recognises VMS as a product HP owns? -----Original Message----- From: Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 21:09:13 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE<hecnet at Update.UU.SE> Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SESubject: Re: [HECnet] Any interest in Alpha software/documentation from March 2003? Steve, As long as we keep the links to ourselves I doubt HP will even notice. Sent from my iPad On 2 Dec 2011, at 04:54, Steve Davidson <jeep at scshome.net> wrote: -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Gregg Levine Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 23:38 To: hecnet at update.uu.se Subject: Re: [HECnet] Any interest in Alpha software/documentation from March 2003? On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Marc Chametzky <marc at bluevine.net> wrote: My vote would be to put them online within HECnet. I agree! Put the contents online (somehow) for us to view and use when possible. Okay, I'll do that then. I've copied the CDs to .iso files and now need to get my Linux system to get a bit more room to hold them and then once that's reconfigured, I'll mount them on DUSTY:: (and send out a message when that's done to let everyone know where it is). I will happily rip and host the CD images for HECnet member use - I run a data center, so I have plenty of bandwidth to spare. I'll even pay for shipping if required. Thanks very much for the offer, Ian, but I've got a very decent Internet connection here (all hail, Verizon FiOS :-) ), so once I resize my Linux disk to hold these files, I'll be set. --Marc Hello! Marc for those of us who as yet do not have access via the networking methods that you've worked out with the rest of the group, can you set up access for normal methods? IE, via FTP or even HTTP? ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." Marc, We need to be careful about putting VMS kits in the public space. It's one thing to make them available for HECnet users within HECnet but another to put them accessible to the whole world. HP might (probably will), take a very dim view of this. Let's not temp fate and give them ammunition to shutdown the program. -Steve

12 years, 11 months

Any interest in Alpha software/documentation from March 2003?

by hvlems＠zonnet.nl

Notice? Is there anyone left at HP who recognises VMS as a product HP owns? -----Original Message----- From: Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 21:09:13 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE<hecnet at Update.UU.SE> Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SESubject: Re: [HECnet] Any interest in Alpha software/documentation from March 2003? Steve, As long as we keep the links to ourselves I doubt HP will even notice. Sent from my iPad On 2 Dec 2011, at 04:54, Steve Davidson <jeep at scshome.net> wrote: -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Gregg Levine Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 23:38 To: hecnet at update.uu.se Subject: Re: [HECnet] Any interest in Alpha software/documentation from March 2003? On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Marc Chametzky <marc at bluevine.net> wrote: My vote would be to put them online within HECnet. I agree! Put the contents online (somehow) for us to view and use when possible. Okay, I'll do that then. I've copied the CDs to .iso files and now need to get my Linux system to get a bit more room to hold them and then once that's reconfigured, I'll mount them on DUSTY:: (and send out a message when that's done to let everyone know where it is). I will happily rip and host the CD images for HECnet member use - I run a data center, so I have plenty of bandwidth to spare. I'll even pay for shipping if required. Thanks very much for the offer, Ian, but I've got a very decent Internet connection here (all hail, Verizon FiOS :-) ), so once I resize my Linux disk to hold these files, I'll be set. --Marc Hello! Marc for those of us who as yet do not have access via the networking methods that you've worked out with the rest of the group, can you set up access for normal methods? IE, via FTP or even HTTP? ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." Marc, We need to be careful about putting VMS kits in the public space. It's one thing to make them available for HECnet users within HECnet but another to put them accessible to the whole world. HP might (probably will), take a very dim view of this. Let's not temp fate and give them ammunition to shutdown the program. -Steve

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