On Jan 1, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2012-12-31 19:36, Bob Armstrong wrote:
There s something else going on here. I m not sure who originally
analyzed the file to decide that the format was Stream-CR (although
given that the analysis was done on RSX, we can probably guess :-)
Cool. This is become more weird all the time.
WHat I reported was what was shown when doing a directory over DECnet. It's the information VMS presents. RSX is not really involved.
With DECnet, it is. DAP sends the information about the files in the directory listing in encoded form, and it's up to the receiving system to decode it correctly and format it for display. So if you're seeing the wrong attribute, either VMS is sending the wrong DAP code, or RSX is decoding it wrong. A wire trace along with some reading of the DAP protocol spec will tell you which it is.
paul
On 2013-01-01 05:41, Dave McGuire wrote:
Happy new year, my DECfetish friends! 20mins left of 2012, here. I
am very drunk at the moment, but I don't mind admitting that you all
have enriched my life considerably. :)
A happy new year to all of you, and thanks to all for contributing to make HECnet a rather lively place these days.
(And a special thanks to Bob for making me realize there is another bug in RSX... Keep 'em coming... :-) )
Johnny
On 2013-01-01 21:38, Pontus wrote:
On 12/29/2012 10:45 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2012-12-29 21:20, Cory Smelosky wrote:
I know someone that was trying to make an IRC bot in x86 ASM...
I'll probably do one in PDP-11 assembler, just to spite you. :-)
Oh please do :) It will be a nice mantelpiece for #update, next to
bjarnis x86 IRC-bot (well, if he ever bothers to start it up again, it
worked kind of well though)
Hmm. I bet I could write one in BASIC+2 in about 20 lines... Next week... :-)
Johnny
On 01/01/2013 03:54 PM, Rob Jarratt wrote:
All the best in health and happiness to you all. I promise to get a
date for DEC Legacy 2013 sorted shortly!
Oh! Umm, what part of the world will this be in?
The English Lake District. Very beautiful place.
Ah, likely too far for me. I expect lots of pics though!
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
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On 01/01/2013 09:41 AM, Mark Wickens wrote:
On 31 Dec 2012, at 23:41, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com>
wrote:
Happy new year, my DECfetish friends! 20mins left of 2012, here.
I am very drunk at the moment, but I don't mind admitting that you
all have enriched my life considerably. :)
Aw, bless, the hangover almost makes me tearful ;)
;)
For me, hacking on PDP-8s, PDP-11s and VAXen can improve even the very
worst day. And in this gang, that hacking is taken to its logical
extreme. :-)
All the best in health and happiness to you all. I promise to get a
date for DEC Legacy 2013 sorted shortly!
Oh! Umm, what part of the world will this be in?
The English Lake District. Very beautiful place.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 1 Jan 2013, at 15:37, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 01/01/2013 09:41 AM, Mark Wickens wrote:
On 31 Dec 2012, at 23:41, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
Happy new year, my DECfetish friends! 20mins left of 2012, here. I
am very drunk at the moment, but I don't mind admitting that you all
have enriched my life considerably. :)
Aw, bless, the hangover almost makes me tearful ;)
;)
For me, hacking on PDP-8s, PDP-11s and VAXen can improve even the very
worst day. And in this gang, that hacking is taken to its logical
extreme. :-)
I take things beyond their /logical/ extreme. ;)
All the best in health and happiness to you all. I promise to get a date
for DEC Legacy 2013 sorted shortly!
Oh! Umm, what part of the world will this be in?
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
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Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff!
http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.
On 12/29/2012 10:45 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2012-12-29 21:20, Cory Smelosky wrote:
I know someone that was trying to make an IRC bot in x86 ASM...
I'll probably do one in PDP-11 assembler, just to spite you. :-)
Oh please do :) It will be a nice mantelpiece for #update, next to bjarnis x86 IRC-bot (well, if he ever bothers to start it up again, it worked kind of well though)
/P
On 01/01/2013 09:41 AM, Mark Wickens wrote:
On 31 Dec 2012, at 23:41, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
Happy new year, my DECfetish friends! 20mins left of 2012, here. I
am very drunk at the moment, but I don't mind admitting that you all
have enriched my life considerably. :)
Aw, bless, the hangover almost makes me tearful ;)
;)
For me, hacking on PDP-8s, PDP-11s and VAXen can improve even the very
worst day. And in this gang, that hacking is taken to its logical
extreme. :-)
All the best in health and happiness to you all. I promise to get a date
for DEC Legacy 2013 sorted shortly!
Oh! Umm, what part of the world will this be in?
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 2013-01-01 16:55, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2013-01-01 16:42, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2013-01-01 16:25, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2012-12-31 19:36, Bob Armstrong wrote:
There s something else going on here. I m not sure who originally
analyzed the file to decide that the format was Stream-CR (although
given that the analysis was done on RSX, we can probably guess :-)
Cool. This is become more weird all the time.
WHat I reported was what was shown when doing a directory over DECnet.
It's the information VMS presents. RSX is not really involved.
What happens if you do a directory showing the attributes over DECnet on
a VMS node?
I sould say that I don't *think* RSX is involved more than just printing
out what it receives from the VMS node, but I might of course be wrong
in that.
I think we have VMS machines with guest accounts. I'm going to test
using one of those.
To reduce speculation slightly. From a VMS machine, looking at
LEGATO::INFO.TXT;1, it claims that it is Stream_LF, so obviously the
"Stream_CR" message must be produced (I assume) in RSX. So it appears
that RSX have something wrong in the interpretation of which is which.
I'm going to read up more on the file access protocol to understand
exactly how it works here, and then I'm ready to declare a bug in NFT on
RSX.
After that, I guess the next step would be to try and fix it. I wonder
it that also implies that the deblocking is done in RSX, which then
don't strip the LF out since it thinks it in a Stream_CR. That would be
plausible.
Bob, please keep your "old" INFO.TXT around. It will be a good test case when I try to fix RSX...
Johnny
