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From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Paul_Koning at Dell.com
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 14:02
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Subject: Re: [HECnet] Area 48.....
On Jan 7, 2013, at 1:52 PM, Ian McLaughlin wrote:
Wouldn't it be ironic if Hecnet ran out of addresses :)
Does anyone know what the largest DECnet deplayment was
duing the good old days?
The internal net at DEC was seriously out of addresses,
though just like IP that's partly because the addressing
scheme forced it to be somewhat sparse. Still, there were
certainly tens of thousands of nodes on it.
paul
And let's not forget the hidden areas that DEC was forced to go to...
-Steve
On 2013-01-07, at 11:03 AM, Brian Hechinger <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote:
I also have Cisco tunnels running.
Any interest in adding one more for me?
Ian
Because the one downside of the Cisco's is they don't speak NICE. It would be awesome if they did.
-brian
On 1/7/2013 2:03 PM, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
Well it doesn't play nice with the mapper Brian H and me are working on..
sampsa
On 7 Jan 2013, at 20:59, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> wrote:
On 2013-01-07, at 10:54 AM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
What kind of cisco tunnel? I'm curious as to if I could replicate any of that setup with open source stuff...
I have a Cisco 7206VXR router that has Cisco's Decnet implementation on it. It is now acting as my area router, and connects to Dave's Cisco via an IP tunnel. From what I understand, Cisco's Decnet implementation is proprietary - not sure if it works well with non-Cisco stuff.
Ian
On 7 Jan 2013, at 14:02, Brian Hechinger <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote:
On 1/7/2013 1:59 PM, Ian McLaughlin wrote:
On 2013-01-07, at 10:54 AM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
What kind of cisco tunnel? I'm curious as to if I could replicate any of that setup with open source stuff...
I have a Cisco 7206VXR router that has Cisco's Decnet implementation on it. It is now acting as my area router, and connects to Dave's Cisco via an IP tunnel. From what I understand, Cisco's Decnet implementation is proprietary - not sure if it works well with non-Cisco stuff.
Ian
Cisco's DECnet is, well, DECnet. :)
There is nothing special about the tunnel. It's just a bog standard GRE tunnel (or you could use an IPSec tunnel if you wanted to).
The Cisco just talks DECnet on all the links you tell it to.
As far as replicating it, you'd need something that can route DECnet and can talk GRE, that's all it would take. Good luck finding that though. :)
My router can talk GRE, but it couldn't route DECnet. :(
-brian
Well it doesn't play nice with the mapper Brian H and me are working on..
sampsa
On 7 Jan 2013, at 20:59, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> wrote:
On 2013-01-07, at 10:54 AM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
What kind of cisco tunnel? I'm curious as to if I could replicate any of that setup with open source stuff...
I have a Cisco 7206VXR router that has Cisco's Decnet implementation on it. It is now acting as my area router, and connects to Dave's Cisco via an IP tunnel. From what I understand, Cisco's Decnet implementation is proprietary - not sure if it works well with non-Cisco stuff.
Ian
I also have Cisco tunnels running.
-brian
On 1/7/2013 1:52 PM, Ian McLaughlin wrote:
Wouldn't it be ironic if Hecnet ran out of addresses :)
Does anyone know what the largest DECnet deplayment was duing the good old days?
Ian
p.s. Johnny, just in case you've still got the bindings in your bridge for area 42, you can remove them. Thanks to Dave McGuire, I've now got my Cisco router connected to him. Is there anyone else on Hecnet offering Cisco tunnels that I could set up for redundancy?
On 2013-01-07, at 10:44 AM, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
Johnny,
As I've just moved to Beirut (well Dahab at the moment temporarily) and intend to keep areas 8 and 47 up and running, any chance I could get 48 for myself too?
Was thinking of a PPTP VPN and then multinet to area 8..
sampsa
On 1/7/2013 1:59 PM, Ian McLaughlin wrote:
On 2013-01-07, at 10:54 AM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
What kind of cisco tunnel? I'm curious as to if I could replicate any of that setup with open source stuff...
I have a Cisco 7206VXR router that has Cisco's Decnet implementation on it. It is now acting as my area router, and connects to Dave's Cisco via an IP tunnel. From what I understand, Cisco's Decnet implementation is proprietary - not sure if it works well with non-Cisco stuff.
Ian
Cisco's DECnet is, well, DECnet. :)
There is nothing special about the tunnel. It's just a bog standard GRE tunnel (or you could use an IPSec tunnel if you wanted to).
The Cisco just talks DECnet on all the links you tell it to.
As far as replicating it, you'd need something that can route DECnet and can talk GRE, that's all it would take. Good luck finding that though. :)
-brian
On Jan 7, 2013, at 1:52 PM, Ian McLaughlin wrote:
Wouldn't it be ironic if Hecnet ran out of addresses :)
Does anyone know what the largest DECnet deplayment was duing the good old days?
The internal net at DEC was seriously out of addresses, though just like IP that's partly because the addressing scheme forced it to be somewhat sparse. Still, there were certainly tens of thousands of nodes on it.
paul
On 7 Jan 2013, at 13:59, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> wrote:
On 2013-01-07, at 10:54 AM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
What kind of cisco tunnel? I'm curious as to if I could replicate any of that setup with open source stuff...
I have a Cisco 7206VXR router that has Cisco's Decnet implementation on it. It is now acting as my area router, and connects to Dave's Cisco via an IP tunnel. From what I understand, Cisco's Decnet implementation is proprietary - not sure if it works well with non-Cisco stuff.
Ah, I probably couldn't use it on my stuff then.
Ian
On 2013-01-07, at 10:54 AM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
What kind of cisco tunnel? I'm curious as to if I could replicate any of that setup with open source stuff...
I have a Cisco 7206VXR router that has Cisco's Decnet implementation on it. It is now acting as my area router, and connects to Dave's Cisco via an IP tunnel. From what I understand, Cisco's Decnet implementation is proprietary - not sure if it works well with non-Cisco stuff.
Ian
