On 1/7/2013 2:36 PM, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 01/07/2013 02:34 PM, Brian Hechinger wrote:
Oh, I never expect NICE to make it into IOS. Especially at this point.
It was just a dream :)
Have we determined if SNMP works over DECnet?
Uhh...oooh, uh, no.
Hmmm.
It would surprise me greatly if it did. :)
-brian
Brian Hechinger <wonko at 4amlunch.net> writes:
On 1/7/2013 2:15 PM, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote: > Brian
Hechinger <wonko at 4amlunch.net> writes: > >> Because the one downside of
the Cisco's is they don't speak NICE. It >> would be awesome if they
did. > That's because they speak IOS! :P >
No, they *run* IOS. They *speak* many, many different things. :)
My DTC01s and DTC03s can *speak" many many different things too! ;)
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Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
On 01/07/2013 02:34 PM, Brian Hechinger wrote:
Oh, I never expect NICE to make it into IOS. Especially at this point.
It was just a dream :)
Have we determined if SNMP works over DECnet?
Uhh...oooh, uh, no.
Hmmm.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Oh, I never expect NICE to make it into IOS. Especially at this point. It was just a dream :)
Have we determined if SNMP works over DECnet?
-brian
On 1/7/2013 2:30 PM, Dave McGuire wrote:
Hmm. Well, adding NICE to IOS is less likely to happen than adding
SNMP to the mapper. ;)
-Dave
On 01/07/2013 02:22 PM, Brian Hechinger wrote:
No more so than implementing SNMP if you ask me.
-brian
On 1/7/2013 2:18 PM, Dave McGuire wrote:
Yes it would, but wouldn't that be edging away from "implementing a
DEC protocol" to "emulating a DEC operating system component"? (not
that it'd be that outlandish, given the origins of Cisco)
-Dave
On 01/07/2013 02:04 PM, Brian Hechinger wrote:
Because the one downside of the Cisco's is they don't speak NICE. It
would be awesome if they did.
-brian
On 1/7/2013 2:03 PM, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
Well it doesn't play nice with the mapper Brian H and me are working
on..
sampsa
On 7 Jan 2013, at 20:59, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> wrote:
On 2013-01-07, at 10:54 AM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
What kind of cisco tunnel? I'm curious as to if I could replicate
any of that setup with open source stuff...
I have a Cisco 7206VXR router that has Cisco's Decnet implementation
on it. It is now acting as my area router, and connects to Dave's
Cisco via an IP tunnel. From what I understand, Cisco's Decnet
implementation is proprietary - not sure if it works well with
non-Cisco stuff.
Ian
Hmm. Well, adding NICE to IOS is less likely to happen than adding
SNMP to the mapper. ;)
-Dave
On 01/07/2013 02:22 PM, Brian Hechinger wrote:
No more so than implementing SNMP if you ask me.
-brian
On 1/7/2013 2:18 PM, Dave McGuire wrote:
Yes it would, but wouldn't that be edging away from "implementing a
DEC protocol" to "emulating a DEC operating system component"? (not
that it'd be that outlandish, given the origins of Cisco)
-Dave
On 01/07/2013 02:04 PM, Brian Hechinger wrote:
Because the one downside of the Cisco's is they don't speak NICE. It
would be awesome if they did.
-brian
On 1/7/2013 2:03 PM, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
Well it doesn't play nice with the mapper Brian H and me are working
on..
sampsa
On 7 Jan 2013, at 20:59, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> wrote:
On 2013-01-07, at 10:54 AM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
What kind of cisco tunnel? I'm curious as to if I could replicate
any of that setup with open source stuff...
I have a Cisco 7206VXR router that has Cisco's Decnet implementation
on it. It is now acting as my area router, and connects to Dave's
Cisco via an IP tunnel. From what I understand, Cisco's Decnet
implementation is proprietary - not sure if it works well with
non-Cisco stuff.
Ian
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Although, the guts of the Internet DEC engineering network was a Class A (net 16) address and it was IP routed and IP managed and DECnet hung off of it once it got an extreme size and scale.
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 2:01 PM, <Paul_Koning at dell.com> wrote:
On Jan 7, 2013, at 1:52 PM, Ian McLaughlin wrote:
> Wouldn't it be ironic if Hecnet ran out of addresses :)
>
> Does anyone know what the largest DECnet deplayment was duing the good old days?
The internal net at DEC was seriously out of addresses, though just like IP that's partly because the addressing scheme forced it to be somewhat sparse. Still, there were certainly tens of thousands of nodes on it.
paul
On 1/7/2013 2:15 PM, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
Brian Hechinger <wonko at 4amlunch.net> writes:
Because the one downside of the Cisco's is they don't speak NICE. It
would be awesome if they did.
That's because they speak IOS! :P
No, they *run* IOS. They *speak* many, many different things. :)
-brian
No more so than implementing SNMP if you ask me.
-brian
On 1/7/2013 2:18 PM, Dave McGuire wrote:
Yes it would, but wouldn't that be edging away from "implementing a
DEC protocol" to "emulating a DEC operating system component"? (not
that it'd be that outlandish, given the origins of Cisco)
-Dave
On 01/07/2013 02:04 PM, Brian Hechinger wrote:
Because the one downside of the Cisco's is they don't speak NICE. It
would be awesome if they did.
-brian
On 1/7/2013 2:03 PM, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
Well it doesn't play nice with the mapper Brian H and me are working on..
sampsa
On 7 Jan 2013, at 20:59, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> wrote:
On 2013-01-07, at 10:54 AM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
What kind of cisco tunnel? I'm curious as to if I could replicate
any of that setup with open source stuff...
I have a Cisco 7206VXR router that has Cisco's Decnet implementation
on it. It is now acting as my area router, and connects to Dave's
Cisco via an IP tunnel. From what I understand, Cisco's Decnet
implementation is proprietary - not sure if it works well with
non-Cisco stuff.
Ian
On 1/7/2013 2:04 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On 7 Jan 2013, at 14:02, Brian Hechinger <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote:
On 1/7/2013 1:59 PM, Ian McLaughlin wrote:
On 2013-01-07, at 10:54 AM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
What kind of cisco tunnel? I'm curious as to if I could replicate any of that setup with open source stuff...
I have a Cisco 7206VXR router that has Cisco's Decnet implementation on it. It is now acting as my area router, and connects to Dave's Cisco via an IP tunnel. From what I understand, Cisco's Decnet implementation is proprietary - not sure if it works well with non-Cisco stuff.
Ian
Cisco's DECnet is, well, DECnet. :)
There is nothing special about the tunnel. It's just a bog standard GRE tunnel (or you could use an IPSec tunnel if you wanted to).
The Cisco just talks DECnet on all the links you tell it to.
As far as replicating it, you'd need something that can route DECnet and can talk GRE, that's all it would take. Good luck finding that though. :)
My router can talk GRE, but it couldn't route DECnet. :(
That's a show stopper, yes. :)
-brian
