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by jeep＠scshome.net

-----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Peter Lothberg Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 09:00 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Cc: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] HECnet performance.... On 01/08/2013 05:38 PM, Brian Hechinger wrote: Set up a (cisco) tunnel to 130.238.19.60 (and tell me your side IP address). I think it's time to come up with something a little better to track all these. Thoughts? A subdomain under some related domain (perhaps <sub>.hecnet.update.uu.se?) with the tunnel endpoints as A records? -Dave We are not limited to route DECnet packets, we could turn on IP on the tunnels, and CLNP/Phase5.. --P We already some of this in place. At this end <user>@<node>.hecnet.org exists for some machines. Others look more like <user>@<node>.enet.hecnet.org. I have not had time to play much with this lately so I do not remember which ones are in place. The main difference between the two is the path it takes once entering this site and the fact that I have not yet committed to supporting the traffic. I can barely manage my own schedule at this point. :-) -Steve

12 years, 5 months

[hvlems@zonnet.nl: Re: [HECnet] Request for comments on subdividing area 9]

by roll＠Stupi.SE

Anything important in this? --P --------------- Message-ID: <1952508364-1357686551-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-757387176- at b3.c6.bise7.blackberry> X-Priority: Normal References: <B3223A23-771F-4C8D-9CDD-66671D6B06DA at gewt.net> <7F8BEC8B-46AF-4B43-A753-73FFA6E37333 at platinum.net> In-Reply-To: <7F8BEC8B-46AF-4B43-A753-73FFA6E37333 at platinum.net> Sensitivity: Normal Importance: Normal Subject: Re: [HECnet] Request for comments on subdividing area 9 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE From: hvlems at zonnet.nl Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 23:09:09 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1866-boundary-243570870-1106332354" MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE --part1866-boundary-243570870-1106332354 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" QUZBSUsgeW91IGFyZSBjb3JyZWN0LiBXaGljaCBleHBsYWlucyB0aGUgbm9kZSBhZGRyZXNzZXMg 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12 years, 5 months

HECnet performance....

by jeep＠scshome.net

-----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Peter Lothberg Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 08:49 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Cc: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] HECnet performance.... Peter, Everything is now set up on my end. I now have 3 Cisco tunnels. The = metric is 10 on all of them. Change the metrics to match my side: Tunnel2 Cost 10 tunnel to 192.108.200.213 Cost 20 tunnel to 199.0.131.2 Cost 20 The majority of areas now route through you according to my router: Given that we have no way of setting metrics on the "bridged ethernet" links, this is the best we can do that works in the general case. I'm now trying to get the Multinet links to 192.108.200.211 59.58 (STUPI) cleaned up and re_established, right now only the link to Legato is working properly. SG1 had cost 1 on their side instead of 10. I should add that if SG1:: and LEGATO:: need to pass information, the circuit costs favor the Multinet Tunnel links between the two major US hubs. I would rather the Multinet Tunnel be used instead of using the bridge link to Sweden and then back again. -Steve Anyone else who want a cisco or Multinet HECnet tunnel set up? -P

12 years, 5 months

HECnet performance....

by roll＠Stupi.SE

On 01/08/2013 05:38 PM, Brian Hechinger wrote: Set up a (cisco) tunnel to 130.238.19.60 (and tell me your side IP address). I think it's time to come up with something a little better to track all these. Thoughts? A subdomain under some related domain (perhaps <sub>.hecnet.update.uu.se?) with the tunnel endpoints as A records? -Dave We are not limited to route DECnet packets, we could turn on IP on the tunnels, and CLNP/Phase5.. --P

12 years, 5 months

HECnet performance....

by roll＠Stupi.SE

On 1/8/2013 9:01 PM, Peter Lothberg wrote: Set up a (cisco) tunnel to 130.238.19.60 (and tell me your side IP address). I think it's time to come up with something a little better to track all these. Thoughts? Build a tool that takes requests and generates configs (full mesh) and pushes them to the routers. (maybe we can have the router configs in a wiki?) -P

12 years, 5 months

Request for comments on subdividing area 9

by roll＠Stupi.SE

Hello! The current way I allocate node numbers is in sequential order and it's = getting tremendously messy and difficult to manage, so I am going to = come up with a plan to divide things more cleanly and I'm looking for = feedback. Why is it messy? Putting administrative info in addresses that are most likely network endpoints? If we at some time in the future want to get the routing optimal there is one limitation to remember. There is no topology information shared between areas, so if a node in area 1 want's to talk to a node in area 2 and there are more than one link from area 1 to area 2 it will pick the best (metric or router id) link to area 2, and it has no information about what area router in area 2 is closest to the destination node. An optimal HECnet has metrics (costs on links) and all nodes in the same area..... Or one area is basically connecting all it's area routers with for practical purposes infinite bandwidth. --P

12 years, 5 months

HECnet performance....

by jeep＠scshome.net

-----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Peter Lothberg Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 08:49 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Cc: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] HECnet performance.... Peter, Everything is now set up on my end. I now have 3 Cisco tunnels. The = metric is 10 on all of them. Change the metrics to match my side: Tunnel2 Cost 10 tunnel to 192.108.200.213 Cost 20 tunnel to 199.0.131.2 Cost 20 The majority of areas now route through you according to my router: Given that we have no way of setting metrics on the "bridged ethernet" links, this is the best we can do that works in the general case. I'm now trying to get the Multinet links to 192.108.200.211 59.58 (STUPI) cleaned up and re_established, right now only the link to Legato is working properly. SG1 had cost 1 on their side instead of 10. On VMS systems anyway, LAN circuit costs are set to 4 by default. I always set Multinet circuit costs to 1 or 2 depending on whether it is the preferred route or the alternate route. I would prefer to favor the Multinet Tunnel circuits over the bridge links. They can be anywhere between 4-10 times faster for file copy operations. This is why SG1:: circuit costs are "1" in your case. -Steve Anyone else who want a cisco or Multinet HECnet tunnel set up? -P

12 years, 5 months

HECnet performance....

by roll＠Stupi.SE

Peter, Everything is now set up on my end. I now have 3 Cisco tunnels. The = metric is 10 on all of them. Change the metrics to match my side: Tunnel2 Cost 10 tunnel to 192.108.200.213 Cost 20 tunnel to 199.0.131.2 Cost 20 The majority of areas now route through you according to my router: Given that we have no way of setting metrics on the "bridged ethernet" links, this is the best we can do that works in the general case. I'm now trying to get the Multinet links to 192.108.200.211 59.58 (STUPI) cleaned up and re_established, right now only the link to Legato is working properly. SG1 had cost 1 on their side instead of 10. Anyone else who want a cisco or Multinet HECnet tunnel set up? -P

12 years, 5 months

Data Collector

by jeep＠scshome.net

-----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Brian Hechinger Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 21:54 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Data Collector On 1/8/2013 9:03 PM, Steve Davidson wrote: I like looking at "SHOW KNOWN AREAS". I use that as a starting place. That should be simple enough to do. -brian I forgot to add that I always start with: MCR NCP TELL MIM SHOW KNOWN AREAS Then I walk the tree to see what comes back. -Steve

12 years, 5 months

Data Collector

by wonko＠4amlunch.net

On 1/8/2013 9:03 PM, Steve Davidson wrote: I like looking at "SHOW KNOWN AREAS". I use that as a starting place. That should be simple enough to do. -brian

12 years, 5 months

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