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MOP vs. Cisco, was Re: [HECnet] _PROVISIONAL_ map of HECnet, courtesy largely of Brian H.

by b4＠gewt.net

On 9 Jan 2013, at 13:06, Brian Hechinger <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote: On 1/9/2013 1:03 PM, Dave McGuire wrote: On 01/09/2013 12:59 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: I want in on your crazy GRE and DECnet routing setups! ;) I think of them as quite sane. If one needs to route, one should, oh you know, use a router. ;) I could install vyatta which is linux-based meaning I could /maybe/ build linux-decnet and have it function as an area router. Management could also be done via SNMP, but not to the ease of Cisco. Thoughts? Get a Cisco. It's not like they're tough to find, or very expensive. And you'll use it essentially forever. (because it will last that long!) I've got this 4700 sitting here collecting dust. Now that I have the 1841, 1811w and 2851 I seriously doubt I'll ever touch the 4700 again. Come get it. :) Where would I need to go? ;) -brian

12 years, 11 months

MOP vs. Cisco, was Re: [HECnet] _PROVISIONAL_ map of HECnet, courtesy largely of Brian H.

by ian＠platinum.net

On 2013-01-09, at 10:04 AM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: I have absolutely no experience with Cisco stuff, hmmm. Perhaps I could learn using dynamips, it'd be easier than re-learning all of Vyatta. If you want to learn Cisco, GNS3 is the cheapest way to go. There's tons of youtube videos showing different Cisco scenarios using GNS3. Ian

12 years, 11 months

MOP vs. Cisco, was Re: [HECnet] _PROVISIONAL_ map of HECnet, courtesy largely of Brian H.

by sampsa＠mac.com

That was my belief before five minutes ago, when Brian was messing with me and got me all excited. I was certain that MOP was an unroutable, LAN-only protocol like LAT. But then, apparently folks have been booting DECservers via HECnet..? I used to boot my DS200 over the bridge all the time. Sampsa

12 years, 11 months

MOP vs. Cisco, was Re: [HECnet] _PROVISIONAL_ map of HECnet, courtesy largely of Brian H.

by ian＠platinum.net

On 2013-01-09, at 10:03 AM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: Get a Cisco. It's not like they're tough to find, or very expensive. And you'll use it essentially forever. (because it will last that long!) But emulation is free and here today, instead of waiting two weeks for an Ebay order to arrive :) Maybe I should try playing with it to see if it's even possible. If we could create a nice simple turnkey VM image, maybe more Hecnet members would implement it... (I agree the hardware is the best way to go - it's bullet-proof and lives forever) Ian

12 years, 11 months

MOP vs. Cisco, was Re: [HECnet] _PROVISIONAL_ map of HECnet, courtesy largely of Brian H.

by wonko＠4amlunch.net

On 1/9/2013 1:03 PM, Dave McGuire wrote: On 01/09/2013 12:59 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: I want in on your crazy GRE and DECnet routing setups! ;) I think of them as quite sane. If one needs to route, one should, oh you know, use a router. ;) I could install vyatta which is linux-based meaning I could /maybe/ build linux-decnet and have it function as an area router. Management could also be done via SNMP, but not to the ease of Cisco. Thoughts? Get a Cisco. It's not like they're tough to find, or very expensive. And you'll use it essentially forever. (because it will last that long!) I've got this 4700 sitting here collecting dust. Now that I have the 1841, 1811w and 2851 I seriously doubt I'll ever touch the 4700 again. Come get it. :) -brian

12 years, 11 months

MOP vs. Cisco, was Re: [HECnet] _PROVISIONAL_ map of HECnet, courtesy largely of Brian H.

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 01/09/2013 01:02 PM, Ian McLaughlin wrote: I want in on your crazy GRE and DECnet routing setups! ;) I could install vyatta which is linux-based meaning I could /maybe/ build linux-decnet and have it function as an area router. Management could also be done via SNMP, but not to the ease of Cisco. Thoughts? I'd use my current router as-is, but FreeBSD lacks DECnet bits. :( What about using dynamips, a Cisco emulator? GNS3 is a beautiful GUI front end for it. I've never tried decnet through it, but I have used it to route between several virtual machines. Dynamips works great, and that might be a sorta-approaching-maybe-reasonable approach if one already has a VM host machine somewhere to run it on. Otherwise...get a Cisco. ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

12 years, 11 months

maintaining data in DNS, was Re: [HECnet] HECnet performance....

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 01/09/2013 12:46 PM, Brian Hechinger wrote: I think it's time to come up with something a little better to track all these. Thoughts? A subdomain under some related domain (perhaps <sub>.hecnet.update.uu.se?) with the tunnel endpoints as A records? The problem here is that it isn't searchable. You need to know the A record name. It would be more useful for me to have it in a db. You could do an AXFR query for the subdomain. ;) You need to setup zone transfer rights for that though, right? Yes, but that's a line in a file...not tough. Did I ever tell you about how I implemented a linked list in TXT records back in '93? At one time, Digex' nameservers had the menus for all the local carry-out restaurants stored, item by item, in the nameserver. I wrote a little C program to traverse the linked lists and print out the menus. That's disturbing. And awesome. :) Thanks, and thanks! :-) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

12 years, 11 months

MOP vs. Cisco, was Re: [HECnet] _PROVISIONAL_ map of HECnet, courtesy largely of Brian H.

by b4＠gewt.net

On 9 Jan 2013, at 13:02, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> wrote: On 2013-01-09, at 9:59 AM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: I want in on your crazy GRE and DECnet routing setups! ;) I could install vyatta which is linux-based meaning I could /maybe/ build linux-decnet and have it function as an area router. Management could also be done via SNMP, but not to the ease of Cisco. Thoughts? I'd use my current router as-is, but FreeBSD lacks DECnet bits. :( What about using dynamips, a Cisco emulator? GNS3 is a beautiful GUI front end for it. I've never tried decnet through it, but I have used it to route between several virtual machines. I have absolutely no experience with Cisco stuff, hmmm. Perhaps I could learn using dynamips, it'd be easier than re-learning all of Vyatta. Ian

12 years, 11 months

MOP vs. Cisco, was Re: [HECnet] _PROVISIONAL_ map of HECnet, courtesy largely of Brian H.

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 01/09/2013 12:59 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: I want in on your crazy GRE and DECnet routing setups! ;) I think of them as quite sane. If one needs to route, one should, oh you know, use a router. ;) I could install vyatta which is linux-based meaning I could /maybe/ build linux-decnet and have it function as an area router. Management could also be done via SNMP, but not to the ease of Cisco. Thoughts? Get a Cisco. It's not like they're tough to find, or very expensive. And you'll use it essentially forever. (because it will last that long!) I'd use my current router as-is, but FreeBSD lacks DECnet bits. :( See above. ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

12 years, 11 months

MOP vs. Cisco, was Re: [HECnet] _PROVISIONAL_ map of HECnet, courtesy largely of Brian H.

by ian＠platinum.net

On 2013-01-09, at 9:59 AM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: I want in on your crazy GRE and DECnet routing setups! ;) I could install vyatta which is linux-based meaning I could /maybe/ build linux-decnet and have it function as an area router. Management could also be done via SNMP, but not to the ease of Cisco. Thoughts? I'd use my current router as-is, but FreeBSD lacks DECnet bits. :( What about using dynamips, a Cisco emulator? GNS3 is a beautiful GUI front end for it. I've never tried decnet through it, but I have used it to route between several virtual machines. Ian

12 years, 11 months

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