On 10/03/2013 03:02 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Thanks! If I shove the VT420 here I run out of room for the IP phone
without a handset. ;)
I'll find that damn handset one of these days.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On Thu, 3 Oct 2013, Sampsa Laine wrote:
On 3 Oct 2013, at 20:51, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/03/2013 01:20 PM, lee.gleason at comcast.net wrote:
The terminals themselves were just largish monitors and keyboard with
an LSI11 system built in (an 11/03 or 11/2 - wasn't an 11/23, they were
too new).
Yup. That's why I'm drooling. I like that idea a lot.
I'm not too interested in that very-vertical-market-sounding
experience. I just like the idea of a small PDP-11 inside a rather
iconic terminal that I can download arbitrary code into. It'd be fun.
What I would LOVE is a VT180, basically VT102 + 8080 CPU running CP/M.
I've always been a CP/M fan for some odd reason :)
Come to think of it, I'd probably buy a DEC Rainbow if I came across on
that has three modes I think (VT100/8080/8088)..
The Rainbow is neat. I had a shot at getting an early DECmate...
sampsa
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On 10/03/2013 11:01 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Lighter???
FWIW, you'd be much better off running the latest and greatest on your
VAX
hardware to take advantage of the performance features contained
within it.
The VAX processors, even in the latter generation VAX systems, are not
very
fast by today's standards. If you believe that every little bit
helps, then
you'd be running V7.3 to get every little bit of help you can get from
VMS.
I remember when VMS V5 came out. It was a total dog. I think DEC started
to work on improving performance in V6, but I would not be surprised to
learn that V7 is much better for performance than V6...
Same here.
V5 was a mess. It was usable on my 3600s, but the hit was plainly
noticable. Where it really hurt was on my 11/750. (well not "my" of
course) Under V4.7 we regularly had a dozen scientists working on the
11/750, while under V5 they started becoming frustrated and whiny around
7 or 8 users. It was painful.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 10/03/2013 02:54 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
The terminals themselves were just largish monitors and keyboard with
an LSI11 system built in (an 11/03 or 11/2 - wasn't an 11/23, they were
too new).
Yup. That's why I'm drooling. I like that idea a lot.
The tricky part for writing your own code would be to reverse engineer the display engine. It was some sort of display list processor, same general idea as a GT-40 but text only.
paul
On 3 Oct 2013, at 20:51, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/03/2013 01:20 PM, lee.gleason at comcast.net wrote:
The terminals themselves were just largish monitors and keyboard with
an LSI11 system built in (an 11/03 or 11/2 - wasn't an 11/23, they were
too new).
Yup. That's why I'm drooling. I like that idea a lot.
I'm not too interested in that very-vertical-market-sounding
experience. I just like the idea of a small PDP-11 inside a rather
iconic terminal that I can download arbitrary code into. It'd be fun.
What I would LOVE is a VT180, basically VT102 + 8080 CPU running CP/M.
I've always been a CP/M fan for some odd reason :)
Come to think of it, I'd probably buy a DEC Rainbow if I came across on
that has three modes I think (VT100/8080/8088)..
sampsa
On Thu, 3 Oct 2013, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 10/03/2013 02:58 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Thu, 3 Oct 2013, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 10/03/2013 02:54 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
The terminals themselves were just largish monitors and keyboard
with
an LSI11 system built in (an 11/03 or 11/2 - wasn't an 11/23, they
were
too new).
Yup. That's why I'm drooling. I like that idea a lot.
I like the idea, too. I'd put something else on my desk if I had the
space. Or the ethernet cables.
Those would be serial cables.
I was thinking of adding a terminal server to the desk, too. So that'd
need an ethernet cable as well.
Oh! Good idea.
-Dave
Thanks! If I shove the VT420 here I run out of room for the IP phone without a handset. ;)
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Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
On 10/03/2013 02:58 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Thu, 3 Oct 2013, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 10/03/2013 02:54 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
The terminals themselves were just largish monitors and keyboard
with
an LSI11 system built in (an 11/03 or 11/2 - wasn't an 11/23, they
were
too new).
Yup. That's why I'm drooling. I like that idea a lot.
I like the idea, too. I'd put something else on my desk if I had the
space. Or the ethernet cables.
Those would be serial cables.
I was thinking of adding a terminal server to the desk, too. So that'd
need an ethernet cable as well.
Oh! Good idea.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On Thu, 3 Oct 2013, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 10/03/2013 02:54 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
The terminals themselves were just largish monitors and keyboard with
an LSI11 system built in (an 11/03 or 11/2 - wasn't an 11/23, they were
too new).
Yup. That's why I'm drooling. I like that idea a lot.
I like the idea, too. I'd put something else on my desk if I had the
space. Or the ethernet cables.
Those would be serial cables.
I was thinking of adding a terminal server to the desk, too. So that'd need an ethernet cable as well.
-Dave
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
On 10/03/2013 02:54 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
The terminals themselves were just largish monitors and keyboard with
an LSI11 system built in (an 11/03 or 11/2 - wasn't an 11/23, they were
too new).
Yup. That's why I'm drooling. I like that idea a lot.
I like the idea, too. I'd put something else on my desk if I had the
space. Or the ethernet cables.
Those would be serial cables.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On Thu, 3 Oct 2013, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 10/03/2013 01:20 PM, lee.gleason at comcast.net wrote:
The terminals themselves were just largish monitors and keyboard with
an LSI11 system built in (an 11/03 or 11/2 - wasn't an 11/23, they were
too new).
Yup. That's why I'm drooling. I like that idea a lot.
I like the idea, too. I'd put something else on my desk if I had the space. Or the ethernet cables.
Even if you had one now, the magic was in the software that was
downloaded from the TMS system, and the server side stuff that ran on
the host 11. Without a TMS11 system to attach to, it would just be a
bulky LSI11 system with no disk. Now, if you added a disk, and upgraded
the processor, it would be the basis for an interesting desktop system -
but it wouldn't provide the real VT71/72 experience.
I'm not too interested in that very-vertical-market-sounding
experience. I just like the idea of a small PDP-11 inside a rather
iconic terminal that I can download arbitrary code into. It'd be fun.
It'd be very neat.
-Dave
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
