Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> writes:
On 14 Jan 2014, at 14:51, "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" =
<system at TMESIS.COM> wrote:
Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> writes:
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Mind you with such a large change anyway, it might be a good time to =
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"sneak in" the connection to HECnet :)
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I don't have to "sneak" anything.
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I didn't mean it literally :)
I just figured that with such a large change happening anyway nobody =
would really notice or care - as there was some discussion pro and con =
in that thread..
Quoting the late Rear Admiral Grace Hopper:
It's easier to ask forgiveness than it is to get permission.
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VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG
Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
On Tue, 14 Jan 2014, Sampsa Laine wrote:
So Mark Abene and me (well 99% Mark Abene) has managed to get a working X.25-over-IP setup going. We can currently connect Linux systems and VMS boxes, but unfortunately they have to be running DECNET Phase V..
Interesting.
Could you connect a Linux box without VMS being involved? What software is involved on the Linux side?
Fred
On 14 Jan 2014, at 14:51, "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" <system at TMESIS.COM> wrote:
Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> writes:
Mind you with such a large change anyway, it might be a good time to =
"sneak in" the connection to HECnet :)
I don't have to "sneak" anything.
I didn't mean it literally :)
I just figured that with such a large change happening anyway nobody would really notice or care - as there was some discussion pro and con in that thread..
Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> writes:
Mind you with such a large change anyway, it might be a good time to =
"sneak in" the connection to HECnet :)
I don't have to "sneak" anything.
--
VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG
Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
(Johnny - sorry for the plagiarised name, just thought it fit)
So Mark Abene and me (well 99% Mark Abene) has managed to get a working X.25-over-IP setup going. We can currently connect Linux systems and VMS boxes, but unfortunately they have to be running DECNET Phase V..
In any case, it's a fun toy, I don't think it's actually useful in any sane sense but I quite like the idea of having my own X.25 network..
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
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sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
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On 14 Jan 2014, at 13:42, "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" <system at TMESIS.COM> wrote:
Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> writes:
Anybody know what happened with that discussion re: EISNER and HECnet?
Also, is EISNER even up any more? I can't seem to connect to it.
EISNER is being or has been physically relocated. Once it is back up, I'll
see what can be done about getting it connected to HECnet. I have no idea
what'll be available network-wise/router-wise until EISNER is back on-line.
Mind you with such a large change anyway, it might be a good time to "sneak in" the connection to HECnet :)
Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> writes:
Anybody know what happened with that discussion re: EISNER and HECnet?
Also, is EISNER even up any more? I can't seem to connect to it.
EISNER is being or has been physically relocated. Once it is back up, I'll
see what can be done about getting it connected to HECnet. I have no idea
what'll be available network-wise/router-wise until EISNER is back on-line.
--
VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG
Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
I'm only ever seeing LAT and MOP packets coming over the bridge; my
DECnet 0x6003 packets get silently ignored, and I never see any coming
from the far end of the bridge. Is anyone willing to bridge with me
as a test for comparison? I don't yet have an area assigned by Johnny
since I only have one machine at present (but that may change), so
I've been using the same area number as the remote bridge peer.
-Mark
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 10:45 PM, Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> wrote:
OK, I'm at the hair-tearing-out stage... Who here has a TOPS-20 system
connected to HECnet? I'm trying to peer with Sampsa with "bridge" in
his same area as an endnode. Bridge works fine on my end, lots of
activity in debug mode, and I see lots of node number entries if I
send it a SIGUSR1. However I never "see" the adjacent node in NCP,
though my circuit and line are up and active. Adding a few nodes
manually with NCP SET NODE and then trying a SET HOST in the monitor
just times out. If I do this while watching my ethernet with tcpdump,
I see my real DECnet traffic, immediately followed by its encapsulated
udp packet going out over port 4711. However, I never get any
responses to my SET HOST from the remote bridge side. Any suggestions
on debugging this?
Thanks,
Mark
On 1/13/2014 9:35 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Anybody know what happened with that discussion re: EISNER and HECnet?
Also, is EISNER even up any more? I can't seem to connect to it.
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +44 7961 149465
Eisner is down for a physical move. Last I saw posted was on 7-Jan-2014 on comp.os.vms was that they expected it back up "soon". It was moving from Wisconsin to the Nemonix HQ in Massachusetts.
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/comp.os.vms/qh3oFl11Olw
John H. Reinhardt
OK, I'm at the hair-tearing-out stage... Who here has a TOPS-20 system
connected to HECnet? I'm trying to peer with Sampsa with "bridge" in
his same area as an endnode. Bridge works fine on my end, lots of
activity in debug mode, and I see lots of node number entries if I
send it a SIGUSR1. However I never "see" the adjacent node in NCP,
though my circuit and line are up and active. Adding a few nodes
manually with NCP SET NODE and then trying a SET HOST in the monitor
just times out. If I do this while watching my ethernet with tcpdump,
I see my real DECnet traffic, immediately followed by its encapsulated
udp packet going out over port 4711. However, I never get any
responses to my SET HOST from the remote bridge side. Any suggestions
on debugging this?
Thanks,
Mark
