The DIX spec says that hardware addresses ( the ones you put in the simh configuration file starting with 08-00-2B) must be unique .
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Origineel bericht
Van: Jean-Yves Bernier
Verzonden: zaterdag 24 mei 2014 23:14
Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Same MAC address on different nodes
At 10:21 PM +0200 24/5/14, Johnny Billquist wrote:
So "Physical" is not "Hardware", and there is no need to SET XQ MAC.
I tried and it maked no change.
Right. Since your machine will set a different MAC address anyway,
at start, when you enable DECnet. The physical address is whatever
you set in simh before starting. It have no actual relevance once
DECnet starts. If you were to run something else, which did not use
DECnet (such as Unix), the address you set in simh will be the
actual MAC address used, since IP do not change the MAC address of
interfaces. No need.
You mean "the Hardware address is whatever you set in simh before
starting". CEX will set it to "Physical address" (in DECNET parlance)
which is AA-00-04-00-(1024 x area + node).
The MAC address is AA-00-04-00-01-28 for DECNET and 08-00-2B-AA-BB-CC
for Linux.
So, a NIC may have different MAC addresses depending of the network
stack running. Am I right here?
Really hard to give a good explanation on why without having good
access to all parts of the setup to be able to test and examine
things.
Well, my system is working 99%, that's not so bad :)
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At 10:21 PM +0200 24/5/14, Johnny Billquist wrote:
So "Physical" is not "Hardware", and there is no need to SET XQ MAC.
I tried and it maked no change.
Right. Since your machine will set a different MAC address anyway, at start, when you enable DECnet. The physical address is whatever you set in simh before starting. It have no actual relevance once DECnet starts. If you were to run something else, which did not use DECnet (such as Unix), the address you set in simh will be the actual MAC address used, since IP do not change the MAC address of interfaces. No need.
You mean "the Hardware address is whatever you set in simh before starting". CEX will set it to "Physical address" (in DECNET parlance) which is AA-00-04-00-(1024 x area + node).
The MAC address is AA-00-04-00-01-28 for DECNET and 08-00-2B-AA-BB-CC for Linux.
So, a NIC may have different MAC addresses depending of the network stack running. Am I right here?
Really hard to give a good explanation on why without having good access to all parts of the setup to be able to test and examine things.
Well, my system is working 99%, that's not so bad :)
--
Jean-Yves Bernier
On Sat, 24 May 2014, Cory Smelosky wrote:
That was a mostly-joking comment. I'm not bothered by symbol errors I can add to a prefix file. Thank GOD I don't need to do a full executive gen every time!
Thank you!
-Dave
Looks like progress!
TIME
17:09:44 24-MAY-14
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TKB @RSXBLD
I don't recall it getting to this stage before!
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On Sat, 24 May 2014, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 05/24/2014 05:00 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
No, IND is not picky about tabs, but why didn't you just add the line
to SGNPREFIX as I suggested instead?
I must have missed you mentioning putting it in SGNPREFIX. I was
reading rather quickly.
*grumble*
AT.T0 -- Undefined symbol $I$CBP
.IFT $I$CBP .AND .IFT $K$DAS .DATA #0 SET /PLCTL=ICB:600.:200.:51.
How many symbols need I manually define?! :P
Calm down, Cory. You've gotten farther with RSX in a few days than I
did in probably six months when I got my first PDP-11 in the 80s, and I
had a full (paper) manual set. You are doing friggin' FANTASTIC.
Seriously.
That was a mostly-joking comment. I'm not bothered by symbol errors I can add to a prefix file. Thank GOD I don't need to do a full executive gen every time!
Thank you!
-Dave
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Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
On 05/24/2014 05:00 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
No, IND is not picky about tabs, but why didn't you just add the line
to SGNPREFIX as I suggested instead?
I must have missed you mentioning putting it in SGNPREFIX. I was
reading rather quickly.
*grumble*
AT.T0 -- Undefined symbol $I$CBP
.IFT $I$CBP .AND .IFT $K$DAS .DATA #0 SET /PLCTL=ICB:600.:200.:51.
How many symbols need I manually define?! :P
Calm down, Cory. You've gotten farther with RSX in a few days than I
did in probably six months when I got my first PDP-11 in the 80s, and I
had a full (paper) manual set. You are doing friggin' FANTASTIC.
Seriously.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 2014-05-24 23:00, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Sat, 24 May 2014, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Sat, 24 May 2014, Johnny Billquist wrote:
No, IND is not picky about tabs, but why didn't you just add the line
to SGNPREFIX as I suggested instead?
I must have missed you mentioning putting it in SGNPREFIX. I was
reading rather quickly.
*grumble*
AT.T0 -- Undefined symbol $I$CBP
.IFT $I$CBP .AND .IFT $K$DAS .DATA #0 SET /PLCTL=ICB:600.:200.:51.
How many symbols need I manually define?! :P
Good question. I have never run a SYSGEN on a CPU without I/D-space, so I don't know what bugs are lurking...
This is something I guess I should check at some point...
Johnny
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pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
On Sat, 24 May 2014, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Sat, 24 May 2014, Johnny Billquist wrote:
No, IND is not picky about tabs, but why didn't you just add the line to SGNPREFIX as I suggested instead?
I must have missed you mentioning putting it in SGNPREFIX. I was reading rather quickly.
*grumble*
AT.T0 -- Undefined symbol $I$CBP
.IFT $I$CBP .AND .IFT $K$DAS .DATA #0 SET /PLCTL=ICB:600.:200.:51.
How many symbols need I manually define?! :P
Johnny
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
On Sat, 24 May 2014, Johnny Billquist wrote:
No, IND is not picky about tabs, but why didn't you just add the line to SGNPREFIX as I suggested instead?
I must have missed you mentioning putting it in SGNPREFIX. I was reading rather quickly.
Johnny
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Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
On 2014-05-24 22:47, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Sat, 24 May 2014, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Sat, 24 May 2014, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2014-05-24 22:23, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Sat, 24 May 2014, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Patched and re-added to the library...but:
https://ghostbin.com/paste/439rp
Still?!
Where did you put the patch?
I put it around 220Z.
.IFF $K$DAS .GOTO 230Z
.220Z: .; Continue
.IFF $K$DAS .SETF $U$DAS
and around 230Z:
.230Z: .; Continue
.IFF $K$DAS .SETF $U$DAS
(is IND picky about tabs?)
Whoops. Looks like I put it in the wrong location.
No, IND is not picky about tabs, but why didn't you just add the line to SGNPREFIX as I suggested instead?
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
On Sat, 24 May 2014, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Sat, 24 May 2014, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2014-05-24 22:23, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Sat, 24 May 2014, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Patched and re-added to the library...but:
https://ghostbin.com/paste/439rp
Still?!
Where did you put the patch?
I put it around 220Z.
.IFF $K$DAS .GOTO 230Z
.220Z: .; Continue
.IFF $K$DAS .SETF $U$DAS
and around 230Z:
.230Z: .; Continue
.IFF $K$DAS .SETF $U$DAS
(is IND picky about tabs?)
Whoops. Looks like I put it in the wrong location.
Johnny
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
