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Modest proposal: Media library - Distributed?

by uusimaki＠exdecfinland.org

Zane H. Healy wrote: On Fri, 18 Sep 2009, Steve Davidson wrote: Of the two (2), only the VS2000 has the formatter built-in. The formatter on the VS2000 will format drives compatible with the RQDX3, maybe even the RQDX2 and/or RQDX1. I seem to remember that "test 70" does the trick. -Steve Not only that, but I've been able to successfully format a Maxtor XT 2190 as an RD54 using my VS2000, in spite of the fact the VS2000 is broken. My VS2000 has bad RAM, and maybe other issues, so I know it doesn't need to be fully working to do the format. The Customer diagnostics tape for a standard MVII can't do the format, but a FE Diag tape can. Has anyone ever imaged a FE tape? Zane . Possibly not fully working, but mine has a problem with the console port. It doesn't allow me to type anything it only produces output. The serial port controller seems to be bad. If someone has a spare motherboard, I'm very interested. :-) Kari

16 years, 3 months

Modest proposal: Media library - Distributed?

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

On Fri, 18 Sep 2009, Steve Davidson wrote: Of the two (2), only the VS2000 has the formatter built-in. The formatter on the VS2000 will format drives compatible with the RQDX3, maybe even the RQDX2 and/or RQDX1. I seem to remember that "test 70" does the trick. -Steve Not only that, but I've been able to successfully format a Maxtor XT 2190 as an RD54 using my VS2000, in spite of the fact the VS2000 is broken. My VS2000 has bad RAM, and maybe other issues, so I know it doesn't need to be fully working to do the format. The Customer diagnostics tape for a standard MVII can't do the format, but a FE Diag tape can. Has anyone ever imaged a FE tape? Zane

16 years, 3 months

Modest proposal: Media library - Distributed?

by jeep＠scshome.net

Of the two (2), only the VS2000 has the formatter built-in. The formatter on the VS2000 will format drives compatible with the RQDX3, maybe even the RQDX2 and/or RQDX1. I seem to remember that "test 70" does the trick. -Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Kari Uusim ki Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 12:45 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Modest proposal: Media library - Distributed? Paul Koning wrote: Excerpt of message (sent 18 September 2009) by Kari Uusim ki: Andrew, have you tried other ST506 disks than RD53 or RD54? IIRC none of the RD disks were DEC built disks, but relabeled ones from other vendors. That's true, but I think at least in some cases (and, perhaps, on some systems, like a Pro) they required non-standard jumper configurations. Also possibly low level formatting, which might require tools that aren't easily available. paul . Yes, low level formatting might be needed. If my memory serves me right, both VS2000 and the RQDX* have a low level formatting utility in the ROM. I have to check that out. Kari

16 years, 3 months

Modest proposal: Media library - Distributed?

by uusimaki＠exdecfinland.org

Paul Koning wrote: Excerpt of message (sent 18 September 2009) by Kari Uusim ki: Andrew, have you tried other ST506 disks than RD53 or RD54? IIRC none of the RD disks were DEC built disks, but relabeled ones from other vendors. That's true, but I think at least in some cases (and, perhaps, on some systems, like a Pro) they required non-standard jumper configurations. Also possibly low level formatting, which might require tools that aren't easily available. paul . Yes, low level formatting might be needed. If my memory serves me right, both VS2000 and the RQDX* have a low level formatting utility in the ROM. I have to check that out. Kari

16 years, 3 months

Modest proposal: Media library - Distributed?

by Paul_Koning＠dell.com

Excerpt of message (sent 18 September 2009) by Kari Uusim ki: Andrew, have you tried other ST506 disks than RD53 or RD54? IIRC none of the RD disks were DEC built disks, but relabeled ones from other vendors. That's true, but I think at least in some cases (and, perhaps, on some systems, like a Pro) they required non-standard jumper configurations. Also possibly low level formatting, which might require tools that aren't easily available. paul

16 years, 3 months

Modest proposal: Media library - Distributed?

by uusimaki＠exdecfinland.org

Andrew Back wrote: On (12:17 18/09/09), Kari Uusim?ki wrote: Very good point! I agree. Unfortunately I have the same situation as G?ran and my hardware is waiting for a glorious future. But the winter is coming and (running) computers provide heat. ;-) I too have hardware in waiting - a growing collection. And if anybody is able to help I have: - A VAXstation 2000 in need of an RD53/54 and a KVM cable (mono) - A VAXstation II/GPX missing the GPX board, TK50, RD53/54 and Ethernet - A PDP11/53 missing RD53/54 and Ethernet A lot of wants, I know (and worse still RDs!) :o/ Cheers, Andrew Andrew, have you tried other ST506 disks than RD53 or RD54? IIRC none of the RD disks were DEC built disks, but relabeled ones from other vendors. I found earlier many ST506 disks for sale on Ebay. Unfortunately my VS2000 has a problem with the motherboard and I cannot test the disks I have right now. TK50's shouldn't either be very difficult to find. A DELQA should also be easily found. Have you tried Ebay? Regards, Kari

16 years, 3 months

Modest proposal: Media library - Distributed?

by wonko＠4amlunch.net

Ok, I'll start looking to pull that together. It'll be a couple weeks till I can get the new machine into colo (I'm not installing anything new on the old colo box since it's a complete POS). I'll let you all know when it's ready. -brian On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 02:24:06PM +0100, Sampsa Laine wrote: That would work quite well, let me know when it's up. Sampsa On 18 Sep 2009, at 14:12, Brian Hechinger wrote: On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 10:07:21AM +0100, Sampsa Laine wrote: That could work but like you said needs quite a bit of designing to work well - I would suggest that for now we maybe set up mirrors like FTP sites do, i.e. complete copies on more than one host, this way the bandwidth load is at least shared. Does anyone have any objection to a private bittorrent tracker? It would help with the centralized management/searching/etc and if more than one person has space to keep stuff it helps everyone overall with download speeds. Just a thought. :) -brian -- "Coding in C is like sending a 3 year old to do groceries. You gotta tell them exactly what you want or you'll end up with a cupboard full of pop tarts and pancake mix." -- IRC User (http://www.bash.org/?841435) -- "Coding in C is like sending a 3 year old to do groceries. You gotta tell them exactly what you want or you'll end up with a cupboard full of pop tarts and pancake mix." -- IRC User (http://www.bash.org/?841435)

16 years, 3 months

Modest proposal: Media library - Distributed?

by andy＠smokebelch.org

On (12:17 18/09/09), Kari Uusim?ki wrote: Very good point! I agree. Unfortunately I have the same situation as G?ran and my hardware is waiting for a glorious future. But the winter is coming and (running) computers provide heat. ;-) I too have hardware in waiting - a growing collection. And if anybody is able to help I have: - A VAXstation 2000 in need of an RD53/54 and a KVM cable (mono) - A VAXstation II/GPX missing the GPX board, TK50, RD53/54 and Ethernet - A PDP11/53 missing RD53/54 and Ethernet A lot of wants, I know (and worse still RDs!) :o/ Cheers, Andrew -- Andrew Back a at smokebelch.org

16 years, 3 months

Modest proposal: Media library - Distributed?

by sampsa＠mac.com

That would work quite well, let me know when it's up. Sampsa On 18 Sep 2009, at 14:12, Brian Hechinger wrote: On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 10:07:21AM +0100, Sampsa Laine wrote: That could work but like you said needs quite a bit of designing to work well - I would suggest that for now we maybe set up mirrors like FTP sites do, i.e. complete copies on more than one host, this way the bandwidth load is at least shared. Does anyone have any objection to a private bittorrent tracker? It would help with the centralized management/searching/etc and if more than one person has space to keep stuff it helps everyone overall with download speeds. Just a thought. :) -brian -- "Coding in C is like sending a 3 year old to do groceries. You gotta tell them exactly what you want or you'll end up with a cupboard full of pop tarts and pancake mix." -- IRC User (http://www.bash.org/?841435)

16 years, 3 months

Modest proposal: Media library - Distributed?

by wonko＠4amlunch.net

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 10:07:21AM +0100, Sampsa Laine wrote: That could work but like you said needs quite a bit of designing to work well - I would suggest that for now we maybe set up mirrors like FTP sites do, i.e. complete copies on more than one host, this way the bandwidth load is at least shared. Does anyone have any objection to a private bittorrent tracker? It would help with the centralized management/searching/etc and if more than one person has space to keep stuff it helps everyone overall with download speeds. Just a thought. :) -brian -- "Coding in C is like sending a 3 year old to do groceries. You gotta tell them exactly what you want or you'll end up with a cupboard full of pop tarts and pancake mix." -- IRC User (http://www.bash.org/?841435)

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